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  • countryboy
    Growing pains
    • Sep 2003
    • 52633

    #61
    Re: MLB 09 The Show Official Box Art

    Originally posted by bfindeisen
    before anyone asks...

    Alex Rodriguez
    Mark Texeira
    Josh Hamilton
    Hanley Ramirez
    Joe Mauer
    Ok, lets compare career stats for each of these players to Pujols. We'll use some of the most important categories(at least imo they are)

    NOTE:GPA = Average of games player per year & FD% = fielding percentage

    I bolded the stats that are better than Pujols

    Albert Pujols

    YRS: 8
    GPA: 154.8
    AVG: .334
    OBP: .425
    SLG: .624
    FD%: .991
    SB%: 63% (42/71)



    Josh Hamilton

    YRS: 2
    GPA: 123
    AVG: .300
    OBP: .370
    SLG: .538
    FD%: .982
    SB%: 75% (12/16)

    Mark Teixeira

    YRS: 6
    GPA: 150.6
    AVG: .290
    OBP: .378
    SLG: .541
    FD%: .995
    SB% 81% (13/16)


    Alex Rodriguez

    YRS: 15
    GPA: 136.1
    AVG: .306
    OBP: .389
    SLG: .578
    FD%: .973
    SB%: 81% (283/350)

    Joe Mauer

    YRS: 5
    GPA: 112.2
    AVG: .317
    OBP: .399
    SLG: .457
    FD%: .996
    SB%: 83% (30/36)



    Hanley Ramirez

    YRS: 4
    GPA: 116.7
    AVG: .308
    OBP: .379
    SLG: .527
    FD%: .964
    SB%: 77% (137/178)


    I'm sorry, but I don't see how any of these players could be considered a better player than Pujols. If you have reasons as to why they are, then I'd be interested to hear them.
    Last edited by countryboy; 01-09-2009, 12:36 AM.
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    • SoxFan01605
      All Star
      • Jan 2008
      • 8003

      #62
      Re: MLB 09 The Show Official Box Art

      Originally posted by countryboy
      Ok, lets compare career stats for each of these players to Pujols. We'll use some of the most important categories(at least imo they are)

      NOTE:GPA = Average of games player per year & FD% = fielding percentage

      I bolded the stats that are better than Pujols

      Albert Pujols

      YRS: 8
      GPA: 154.8
      AVG: .334
      OBP: .425
      SLG: .624
      FD%: .991
      SB%: 63% (42/71)


      Josh Hamilton

      YRS: 2
      GPA: 123
      AVG: .300
      OBP: .370
      SLG: .538
      FD%: .982
      SB%: 75% (12/16)

      Mark Teixeira

      YRS: 6
      GPA: 150.6
      AVG: .290
      OBP: .378
      SLG: .541
      FD%: .995
      SB% 81% (13/16)

      Alex Rodriguez

      YRS: 15
      GPA: 136.1
      AVG: .306
      OBP: .389
      SLG: .578
      FD%: .973
      SB%: 81% (283/350)

      Joe Mauer

      YRS: 5
      GPA: 112.2
      AVG: .317
      OBP: .399
      SLG: .457
      FD%: .996
      SB%: 83% (30/36)


      Hanley Ramirez

      YRS: 4
      GPA: 116.7
      AVG: .308
      OBP: .379
      SLG: .527
      FD%: .964
      SB%: 77% (137/178)


      I'm sorry, but I don't see how any of these players could be considered a better player than Pujols. If you have reasons as to why they are, then I'd be interested to hear them.
      lol...lovin the flood of stats CB I'll pile some on too

      His lowest run total in any season: 99 in 07 (averages 118 runs per year)

      Career postseason (53 games/189 ABs)

      Avg. .323
      OBP. .429
      SLG. .593


      AllStar Games (5 games/14 ABs)

      Avg. .429
      OBP. .467
      SLG. .571

      Some splits:

      Situational Batting AVG/OBP/SLG.

      RISP .344/.474/.671
      Bases loaded .378/.368/.678
      2 outs .334/.448/.616
      Tie Game .321/.421/.612
      Late/close .315/.440/.615
      Extra Innings .318/.444/.788

      He is currently 5th all time in career OPS (1.0489) behind:

      1. Babe Ruth
      2. Ted Williams
      3. Lou Gehrig
      4. Barry Bonds

      He is currently 4th all time in Slg % (.6238) behind the usual suspects:

      1. Ruth
      2. Williams
      3. Gehrig

      Anyway, didn't mean to get sidetracked on stat tracking...lol (what was the thread topic, BTW..j/k)

      Point is Albert Pujols is the best hitter today...and stays near the top in almost any situation. Add in the fact that he's an excellent fielder and recognized as a good baserunner as well, and I don't see how you can argue against him to be quite honest.

      Anyway, the cover art is nice...lol

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      • countryboy
        Growing pains
        • Sep 2003
        • 52633

        #63
        Re: MLB 09 The Show Official Box Art

        Originally posted by SoxFan01605
        lol...lovin the flood of stats CB I'll pile some on too

        His lowest run total in any season: 99 in 07 (averages 118 runs per year)

        Career postseason (53 games/189 ABs)

        Avg. .323
        OBP. .429
        SLG. .593


        AllStar Games (5 games/14 ABs)

        Avg. .429
        OBP. .467
        SLG. .571

        Some splits:

        Situational Batting AVG/OBP/SLG.

        RISP .344/.474/.671
        Bases loaded .378/.368/.678
        2 outs .334/.448/.616
        Tie Game .321/.421/.612
        Late/close .315/.440/.615
        Extra Innings .318/.444/.788

        He is currently 5th all time in career OPS (1.0489) behind:

        1. Babe Ruth
        2. Ted Williams
        3. Lou Gehrig
        4. Barry Bonds

        He is currently 4th all time in Slg % (.6238) behind the usual suspects:

        1. Ruth
        2. Williams
        3. Gehrig

        Anyway, didn't mean to get sidetracked on stat tracking...lol (what was the thread topic, BTW..j/k)

        Point is Albert Pujols is the best hitter today...and stays near the top in almost any situation. Add in the fact that he's an excellent fielder and recognized as a good baserunner as well, and I don't see how you can argue against him to be quite honest.

        Anyway, the cover art is nice...lol
        Yeah, I didn't want to overload the circuit or anything...lol


        Damn, those stats are impressive. Very impressive.
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        • JT30
          MVP
          • Jul 2004
          • 2124

          #64
          Re: MLB 09 The Show Official Box Art

          Ya I have to agree, I think Pujols is probably the best hitter in baseball.. although Manny might be close.

          But as far as the best all around player in baseball? I have to say Arod. The numbers dont lie and he plays the toughest position in the field.

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          • countryboy
            Growing pains
            • Sep 2003
            • 52633

            #65
            Re: MLB 09 The Show Official Box Art

            Originally posted by JT30
            Ya I have to agree, I think Pujols is probably the best hitter in baseball.. although Manny might be close.

            But as far as the best all around player in baseball? I have to say Arod. The numbers dont lie and he plays the toughest position in the field.
            may I ask what numbers?
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            • AlexBrady
              MVP
              • Jul 2008
              • 3344

              #66
              Re: MLB 09 The Show Official Box Art

              I've never understood why people get all bent out of shape over some cover art. Do people really purchase games based on who the coverguy is?

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              • JT30
                MVP
                • Jul 2004
                • 2124

                #67
                Re: MLB 09 The Show Official Box Art

                Originally posted by countryboy
                may I ask what numbers?
                I am not gonna compare numbers at the moment, however Pujols is younger and has slightly better offensive numbers. But A-Rod has speed that Pujols lacks, very good offensive numbers, and can play above average to extremely good defense at two different positions. Pujols has also gotten his offensive numbers in a league that has been inferior for at least the last half decade.

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                • countryboy
                  Growing pains
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 52633

                  #68
                  Re: MLB 09 The Show Official Box Art

                  Originally posted by JT30
                  I am not gonna compare numbers at the moment, however Pujols is younger and has slightly better offensive numbers. But A-Rod has speed that Pujols lacks, very good offensive numbers, and can play above average to extremely good defense at two different positions. Pujols has also gotten his offensive numbers in a league that has been inferior for at least the last half decade.
                  I just asked what numbers because you said his numbers don't lie.

                  Yes, A-Rod has speed that Pujols doesn't and A-Rod can play 2 different positions, Pujols has played LF, 3B, and 2B(1 game I believe) in his career, but he's not as versatile as A-Rod, I agree.

                  But saying that Pujols' numbers are somehow less stellar due to the league he plays in is taking the easy way out in my opinion. You're making it out like the NL has no dominant pitching whatsoever. And I'm sorry, but that simply isn't true, not even close.
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                  • JT30
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 2124

                    #69
                    Re: MLB 09 The Show Official Box Art

                    Originally posted by countryboy
                    I just asked what numbers because you said his numbers don't lie.

                    Yes, A-Rod has speed that Pujols doesn't and A-Rod can play 2 different positions, Pujols has played LF, 3B, and 2B(1 game I believe) in his career, but he's not as versatile as A-Rod, I agree.

                    But saying that Pujols' numbers are somehow less stellar due to the league he plays in is taking the easy way out in my opinion. You're making it out like the NL has no dominant pitching whatsoever. And I'm sorry, but that simply isn't true, not even close.
                    So you honestly believe that pitching in the NL is as good or better than the AL?

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                    • countryboy
                      Growing pains
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 52633

                      #70
                      Re: MLB 09 The Show Official Box Art

                      Originally posted by JT30
                      So you honestly believe that pitching in the NL is as good or better than the AL?
                      yes, I believe its as good.
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                      • JT30
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 2124

                        #71
                        Re: MLB 09 The Show Official Box Art

                        Originally posted by countryboy
                        yes, I believe its as good.
                        Well then explain to me interleague play and why it has been so lopsided in favor of the AL?

                        Also explain why despite going against lineups with DHs in them, the AL has a lower ERA this past year, which mirrors the past several years. AL pitchers also give up fewer walks, have a better strikeout-to-walk ratio and allow fewer baserunners per nine innings.

                        You can argue that the NL has more top pitchers with lower ERAs -- and that's true -- but, again, they're going against lineups with Maddux and Pelfrey and a bunch of other bat-challenged pitchers in them. The NL lineups are simply easier to get through.

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                        • countryboy
                          Growing pains
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 52633

                          #72
                          Re: MLB 09 The Show Official Box Art

                          Originally posted by JT30
                          Well then explain to me interleague play and why it has been so lopsided in favor of the AL?

                          Also explain why despite going against lineups with DHs in them, the AL has a lower ERA this past year, which mirrors the past several years. AL pitchers also give up fewer walks, have a better strikeout-to-walk ratio and allow fewer baserunners per nine innings.

                          You can argue that the NL has more top pitchers with lower ERAs -- and that's true -- but, again, they're going against lineups with Maddux and Pelfrey and a bunch of other bat-challenged pitchers in them. The NL lineups are simply easier to get through.
                          So the AL pitchers face tougher lineups, I don't argue that. I don't argue that interleague play has been the favor of the AL. I don't argue any of the stats/facts that you posted.

                          But what does any of this have to do with A-Rod vs Pujols and the discussion we were having? You mean to tell me that such pitchers as; Lincecum, Sabathia(Brewers), Sheets, Maddux, Johnson, Santana, Zambrano, Oswalt, and Hamels aren't good simply because they face a lineup that doesn't have a DH? Are you serious?

                          And just for fun, Pujols has a batting average of .429 in the All-Star game and a .344 batting average in interleague play. So it doesn't seem to matter who's pitching, the man is a terrific hitter.

                          I don't see where this has any bearing one way or the other on who the better all around player is between A-Rod and Pujols. But hey, nice subject change.
                          Last edited by countryboy; 01-09-2009, 08:19 PM.
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                          • JT30
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 2124

                            #73
                            Re: MLB 09 The Show Official Box Art

                            Originally posted by countryboy
                            So the AL pitchers face tougher lineups, I don't argue that. I don't argue that interleague play has been the favor of the AL. I don't argue any of the stats/facts that you posted.

                            But what does any of this have to do with A-Rod vs Pujols and the discussion we were having? You mean to tell me that such pitchers as; Lincecum, Sabathia(Brewers), Sheets, Maddux, Johnson, Santana, Zambrano, Oswalt, and Hamels aren't good simply because they face a lineup that doesn't have a DH? Are you serious?

                            And just for fun, Pujols has a batting average of .429 in the All-Star game. So it doesn't seem to matter who's pitching, the man is a terrific hitter.

                            I don't see where this has any bearing one way or the other on who the better all around player is between A-Rod and Pujols. But hey, nice subject change.
                            Changing subjects? Huh? You just made a point saying the NL has as good or better pitching than the AL. You also said Pujols doesnt play in an inferior league, when that simply isnt the case. The NL is not even close to the AL.. and the only way we can compare that is by interleague play. So when Arod's number's may not be "as good" as Pujols when it comes to hitting... did you ever think that maybe AL pitching had something had to do with it?

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                            • JT30
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 2124

                              #74
                              Re: MLB 09 The Show Official Box Art

                              Originally posted by countryboy
                              So the AL pitchers face tougher lineups, I don't argue that. I don't argue that interleague play has been the favor of the AL. I don't argue any of the stats/facts that you posted.

                              But what does any of this have to do with A-Rod vs Pujols and the discussion we were having? You mean to tell me that such pitchers as; Lincecum, Sabathia(Brewers), Sheets, Maddux, Johnson, Santana, Zambrano, Oswalt, and Hamels aren't good simply because they face a lineup that doesn't have a DH? Are you serious?

                              And just for fun, Pujols has a batting average of .429 in the All-Star game and a .344 batting average in interleague play. So it doesn't seem to matter who's pitching, the man is a terrific hitter.

                              I don't see where this has any bearing one way or the other on who the better all around player is between A-Rod and Pujols. But hey, nice subject change.
                              And if you look at my initial post, I said that Pujols is probably the better hitter between the two and his numbers are fantastic..I am not disputing that... but as far as the best all around player in baseball... Arod has my vote.

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                              • countryboy
                                Growing pains
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 52633

                                #75
                                Re: MLB 09 The Show Official Box Art

                                Originally posted by JT30
                                And if you look at my initial post, I said that Pujols is probably the better hitter between the two and his numbers are fantastic..I am not disputing that... but as far as the best all around player in baseball... Arod has my vote.
                                I did read your intial post and you said the numbers don't lie that shows that A-Rod is the better all around player. I asked what those numbers were and here we are.
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