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  • Dianwei32
    Pro
    • Sep 2008
    • 903

    #1

    The 4-2-5: The magic defense

    For a long time I've been playing NCAA out of a base 3-4 (it's what I played out of in Madden and APF 2k8), but my school (Rice) runs a 4-2-5 and I figured I would go ahead and try it out for one of the games in my Dynasty.

    Wow...

    The 4-2-5 (along with the 4-4 included in the playbook) must be magic or something, using the 3-4, I was bumping up my defensiv sliders to compensate for the broken coverage mechanics (I was up to 60 Awareness and my guys were still blind), but I tried out the 4-2-5 and even with Awareness/Knockdowns/Break Blocks lowered considerably, my DBs actually make plays on the ball, my LBs/SSs track and stop the run, and my D-line actually gets pressure on the QB!

    I would suggest to everyone to at least try out the 4-2-5 defense for a few games, it's amazing.
  • Slimshoom
    Pro
    • Feb 2007
    • 635

    #2
    Re: The 4-2-5: The magic defense

    Yep, the 4-2-5 and 3-3-5 are both very good at stopping the CPU passing game.
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    • Dianwei32
      Pro
      • Sep 2008
      • 903

      #3
      Re: The 4-2-5: The magic defense

      Originally posted by Slimshoom
      Yep, the 4-2-5 and 3-3-5 are both very good at stopping the CPU passing game.
      I never had more than marginal intermittent success with the 3-3-5. It was slightly better than the 3-4 or the 3-2-6, but nowhere near as good as I've found the 4-2-5 to be.

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      • jbrew2411
        MVP
        • Dec 2007
        • 2554

        #4
        Re: The 4-2-5: The magic defense

        Its the only set I can get sacks with. The only thing I hate is when I have 3 or 4 great linebackers and can't get them on the field enough. Best D to run hands down.
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        • Slimshoom
          Pro
          • Feb 2007
          • 635

          #5
          Re: The 4-2-5: The magic defense

          Originally posted by jbrew2411
          Its the only set I can get sacks with. The only thing I hate is when I have 3 or 4 great linebackers and can't get them on the field enough. Best D to run hands down.
          ever considered switching those linebackers to speedy defensive ends?
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          • seawolves9
            Rookie
            • Dec 2006
            • 346

            #6
            Re: The 4-2-5: The magic defense

            The 4-2-5 is a sick defense. It can be shaky at times though. I've given up my fair share of solid passing games against the CPU. I don't have the right players for each position, seein as how I'm only running it in my dynasty and am only in year 2, but I can tell that once I get the right personnel, it's gonna be awesome.

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            • jms493
              Rookie
              • Nov 2006
              • 241

              #7
              Re: The 4-2-5: The magic defense

              What players/positions are on the field on the 4-2-5 defense?

              Can someone explain?

              I am guessing

              2 DE
              2 DT
              2 LB
              2 CB
              2 FS
              1 SS

              Correct?
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              • controllerabuser
                Rookie
                • Jul 2008
                • 38

                #8
                Re: The 4-2-5: The magic defense

                Originally posted by jms493
                What players/positions are on the field on the 4-2-5 defense?

                Can someone explain?

                I am guessing

                2 DE
                2 DT
                2 LB
                2 CB
                2 FS
                1 SS


                Correct?
                basically yeah but probably 3 cb's 1 fs and 1 ss

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                • Slimshoom
                  Pro
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 635

                  #9
                  Re: The 4-2-5: The magic defense

                  Originally posted by controllerabuser
                  basically yeah but probably 3 cb's 1 fs and 1 ss
                  yes its almost always 3 CBs and one of each safety, unless a team has two fast, playmaking safeties
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                  • tbuck0027
                    Rookie
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 113

                    #10
                    Re: The 4-2-5: The magic defense

                    the original players for the defense without making substiutions are 2 de, 2dt, 2 lbs, 2 SS 2 CB and 1 FS

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                    • z Revis
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 13639

                      #11
                      Re: The 4-2-5: The magic defense

                      hmmm, I'll try this defense in my Hurricanes dynasty.
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                      • bigjake62505
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 1079

                        #12
                        Re: The 4-2-5: The magic defense

                        The 4-2-5 is a good D It is best to have a SS/LB hybrid's in the SS spot since this position is played close to the line of scrimage. If you are looking for a pass rush this is a good formation to use but you need fast SS's. I used this D with Nevada when I first started playing bc it really helps to get after the QB.

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                        • trayeight
                          Rookie
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 330

                          #13
                          Re: The 4-2-5: The magic defense

                          The 425 was money for me in the last gen, but I like the 335 much more on 360. You take out a slow d-lineman and add a speedy LB essentially.
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                          • Dianwei32
                            Pro
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 903

                            #14
                            Re: The 4-2-5: The magic defense

                            Originally posted by controllerabuser
                            basically yeah but probably 3 cb's 1 fs and 1 ss
                            Actually, the 4-2-5 is usually played with 2 CBs, 2 SSs (who play close to the LOS, like OLBs in a 3-4), and 1 FS (who plays deep over the middle).

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                            • sportsgamer30
                              Rookie
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 111

                              #15
                              Re: The 4-2-5: The magic defense

                              What's the defense with no numbers in it. Its like a multiple defense or something. I cant check because my wii is getting fixed.
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