Madden Challenge 2009: Crowning the World's Best Madden Player

[cjallure24]

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Just seeing the words "Madden Challenge" makes me glad I am an OSer. All you need to do is look at the pics of the Frat-Boy 'Madden Pros' and then you realize why you actually know at least a LITTLE bit about football.

Maybe someone should ask EA if these are the "Casual Gamers" they are looking for. The casual, trash-talking, exploit using "Dynasties" of the world.

This thread did make me realize that if Madden doesn't deliver this year I will be among the APF2K8 peeps that find a way to have fun with that game.

Im with you on that one.Between playing Madden 09 on PS2 and APF2k8 im having a good time.My madden stress level has dropped dramatically.Instead of head scratchin,im doing fist pumps.Im not putting to much stock into Madden X on the 360.I hope they bring it out for the PS2 again.

[BezO]

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Maybe someone should ask EA if these are the "Casual Gamers" they are looking for. The casual, trash-talking, exploit using "Dynasties" of the world.

These tournament players are the exact opposite of casual gamers. 10 hour "labbin" sessions? Nothing casual about that. They're definitely not the pick-up-and-play type that EA has shown concern for.

My guess is that these tournament players would be just as good if the game were more realisitic.

[Sausage]

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These tournament players are the exact opposite of casual gamers. 10 hour "labbin" sessions? Nothing casual about that. They're definitely not the pick-up-and-play type that EA has shown concern for.

My guess is that these tournament players would be just as good if the game were more realisitic.

Man I never thought about the time they put in exploiting all game flaws. Hell with the money they earn by winning tournaments, they have found there calling.

I agree with there dedication they will find flaws to exploit even the most sim football game.

BezO do you think these cats even watch football?

[BezO]

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Man I never thought about the time they put in exploiting all game flaws. Hell with the money they earn by winning tournaments, they have found there calling.

I agree with there dedication they will find flaws to exploit even the most sim football game.

BezO do you think these cats even watch football?

I didn't mean to imply they would find exploits in an otherwise realistic game, though I'm sure they would. I meant that their dedication would help them excel in a more realistic game even without unrealistic exploits.

As is, they exploit what the game allows you to do. If the game were more of a simulation, they would exploit more realistic strategies. The same dedication it takes to find glitches is what it would take to learn realistic strategies.

IMO, playing for fun & playing for money are 2 different things. I won't knock anyone for a by-all-means-necessary approach with $100,000 on the line. I don't see their gaming style as a barometer of their football knowledge.

10 hours of practice a day is a lot. Whether they watch football or not, that amount of practice would teach them the game if the game were a simulation.

[tmulk]

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My guess is that these tournament players would be just as good if the game were more realisitic.

Would be, and are. The frustration level among the top tournament ballers is through the roof. They hate the way 09 was made as well. Like RG said, FB Dive, Curl Route, 11 man zones. They don't want to play the game this way. Guys like Big Gene, Kornstar, and Secret who have been a top level ballers for years are just as frustrated as many of you are. But at the end of the day.....


YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME. If 9 FB dives in a row and dropping 11 men in coverage wins the game, then thats how you play. Why be creative when simplicity is what gets a win? Don't hate the player, hate the game.

[grunt]

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I don't know why people are getting so upset. I played guys that cheated without a 50,000 payday. Madden is still a good game that could be better.

When a game company comes out with a football game that put an emphasis on gameplay it flopped. OS gave Madden 08 a higher score than APF, oh well.

[arichzona]

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I don't know why people are getting so upset. I played guys that cheated without a 50,000 payday. Madden is still a good game that could be better.

When a game company comes out with a football game that put an emphasis on gameplay it flopped. OS gave Madden 08 a higher score than APF, oh well.

...just my two cents:

I would guess that guys are bothered because the cheaters are glorified with a national cheating tournament sponsored by the company who created the game, who claims "if it's in the game...."

.....and that the best cheater wins $50 grand.

I could be wrong though.

[The Sim God]

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still......no ackowledgement or response from ANY of the "madden team"

[Keith121212]

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still......no ackowledgement or response from ANY of the "madden team"

Of course not.

[matt8204]

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still......no ackowledgement or response from ANY of the "madden team"

Don't expect one, either. This is an EA-sponsored tournament. They are not going to bite the hand that feeds them.

[sb24]

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YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME. If 9 FB dives in a row and dropping 11 men in coverage wins the game, then thats how you play. Why be creative when simplicity is what gets a win? Don't hate the player, hate the game.

And thats why i HATE the game. Thats not football. And someone said "madden is a good game", compaired to what? Theres nothing to compare it to. Even comparing 08 and apf2k8 is wrong. Considering 2k didnt have the moeny madden did, they put out a good enough game. But 2k DEFINATLY isnt the point. My point is i am amazed at how many madden fans seems to now turn on their own game. UNFORTUATLY there is nothing else to do but play a non-nfl game go BACK 5 years to 2k5 (yes made in 2004 just like Madden 09 came out in 08) or stick with madden. I have made my choice.

As for Ian. I dont know him but seems like it will be good for madden. BUT since he hasnt responed to this thread (guys gave good reasons why he cant) and since this thread has shown me what madden embraces, i dont have hope for Ian. One man can only do so much when things have gotton SO outta hand.

For everyone whos mad they pay cheesers $50,000. Keep in mind that money comes from a new madden each year that costs 60 for chages that could have been implemented with a patch or update (of course not all changes). I really feel madden should put a game out every 2 years and just have a ptch/update for the new rosters and featurs. WE would all save money and might get a better product it we dont make them rush everything every year.

Just another frustrated consumer who OWNS 09,08,and 07 and every year buy it with high hopes and every year stop and go back to old games. Nothing will change while people still pay 60 every year. I guess just a very long .02

Im sorry i dont feel like correcting typos. You get the point or the post and the point is NOT that i cant spell lmao.

[The Sim God]

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And thats why i HATE the game. Thats not football. And someone said "madden is a good game", compaired to what? Theres nothing to compare it to. Even comparing 08 and apf2k8 is wrong. Considering 2k didnt have the moeny madden did, they put out a good enough game. But 2k DEFINATLY isnt the point. My point is i am amazed at how many madden fans seems to now turn on their own game. UNFORTUATLY there is nothing else to do but play a non-nfl game go BACK 5 years to 2k5 (yes made in 2004 just like Madden 09 came out in 08) or stick with madden. I have made my choice.

As for Ian. I dont know him but seems like it will be good for madden. BUT since he hasnt responed to this thread (guys gave good reasons why he cant) and since this thread has shown me what madden embraces, i dont have hope for Ian. One man can only do so much when things have gotton SO outta hand.

For everyone whos mad they pay cheesers $50,000. Keep in mind that money comes from a new madden each year that costs 60 for chages that could have been implemented with a patch or update (of course not all changes). I really feel madden should put a game out every 2 years and just have a ptch/update for the new rosters and featurs. WE would all save money and might get a better product it we dont make them rush everything every year.

Just another frustrated consumer who OWNS 09,08,and 07 and every year buy it with high hopes and every year stop and go back to old games. Nothing will change while people still pay 60 every year. I guess just a very long .02

Im sorry i dont feel like correcting typos. You get the point or the post and the point is NOT that i cant spell lmao.

i know ian "cant" respond.....but thats bad
last year ian said "madden 09 is the best madden game ever"
for 2-3 days people were clamoring it the greatest sports game ever then....BAM all the glitches & last years bugs come to fruitition and you realize "i just paid 60 bucks for the same game"

i honestly wish they could make 2 discs....1 for true simulation & 1 for the arcade people

the simulation one would have true nfl physics. true nfl gamecalling. everything would replicate the nfl to a T.
no corners cut for the "average football gamer"

the arcade disc can be what madden is now(madden 06,07,08,09 etc)

that would satisfy everyone across the board

but this will never happen.

i dont know how they can make madden from aug 12 until mid november (3 months) and be done with the core gameplay!?
that alone already told me what madden 10 is going to be.....same game, few tweaks & some last gen "feature" coming back that they will tout as a "new feature"

[ch46647]

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Please take a minute to read Ian's new thread about Madden 2010 if you havent already. :wink:

[Corey]

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This is on ESPN right now, the finals match.

Besides all the cheesing, what is amazing is the guy that winds up losing has some obnoxious a-hole shouting in his face the entire time (not his opponent) and nobody does anything about it.

It looks like the reason he is going to lose is because of a fumble on a kickoff return.

eta: oops, guess was the semi-finals match.

[billmatic]

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Just turned this on. lol @ these ignorant dudes yelling at each other.