Madden NFL 10: Tuning Individual Characters

[Michael_Young_EA]

Re: Madden NFL 10: Tuning Individual Characters

Yes, his video was the 1st thing I thought of when I saw that question..:wink:

Also I'll ask the question again.....Is this Thread asking more about body Shapes??? or is M.Y. looking for some Equipment Edits too???

Might be easier to log this info if you to set up a Format to for us to use as well, kind of like the "specific animations thread"

Equipment edits are fine as well.

[wookie48]

Re: Madden NFL 10: Tuning Individual Characters

Players to tune...ok I am gonna have to PM this one to you just becasue I went over this with madden franchisor and he had the deatils on my thoughts.

[lassefos]

Re: Madden NFL 10: Tuning Individual Characters

The player's ratings drive basically every calculation in the game, though weight does also apply in a few areas. So if you're a 400 lb DT with 99 power moves rating, you actually will be better than a 300 lb DT with the same rating. We're trying to make weight matter more though...IMO it's not taken into account enough, especially when it comes to tackling. Apexisfree/Gideon Prime was also kind enough to point this out.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

"kind enough"... nice choice of words... Doesn't take more than 2 seconds of listening to gideon, to hear that he's mentally ********.... I mean... Come on... Bringing religion, politics and "seeking the truth", into his description of madden...

He cracks me up every time... Un-aware comedian...

Though he makes some very valid points about gameplay flaws

[Unforgiven]

Re: Madden NFL 10: Tuning Individual Characters

HAHAHAHAHAHA

"kind enough"... nice choice of words... Doesn't take more than 2 seconds of listening to gideon, to hear that he's mentally ********.... I mean... Come on... Bringing religion, politics and "seeking the truth", into his description of madden...

He cracks me up every time... Un-aware comedian...

Though he makes some very valid points about gameplay flaws

.. Not really.

Are you saying a mentally ******** person is able to point out stuff that most of us can't?

[lassefos]

Re: Madden NFL 10: Tuning Individual Characters

.. Not really.

Are you saying a mentally ******** person is able to point out stuff that most of us can't?

Gideon is that you???? haha...

No of course not... mentally retarted is maybe an overstatement...
But not far off...

[Unforgiven]

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Gideon is that you???? haha...

No of course not... mentally retarted is maybe an overstatement...
But not far off...

He probably has ADD

[frankrizzo380]

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He probably has ADD

no, i think he's mentaly stable, he just need a life, dude takes madden to the heart but i can understand his passion $60-$90 is HUGE investment imo

[K_GUN]

Re: Tuning Individual Characters

To be accurate...Kawika Mitchell IS NOT CAUCASIAN...He's Samoan

thanks.....i knew he wasn't AA but didn't know specifically what nationality he was

regardless,......here's a pic mike

http://www.emqb.com/wp-content/uploa...ell_kawika.jpg

also...he has a dark tinted face shield

and another general observation....it seems a lot of the QB's in the game could have a little more waist/torso added to them----with the jersey's all being very tight & tucked in, it creates that illusion of having 'skinny' torso/mid sections.

[jonesha2000]

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Darnell Dockett...he looks like Casey Hampton in Madden 09 and that is just wrong on so many levels.

[Dfiant1]

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Aaron Rodgers is too skinny. Especially his arms.

[BezO]

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This is pretty accurate to what we do. We basically build a prototypical body for each position and assign it to the bulk of the players in the game. We then add on accurate height and weight.

This explains a lot. Is this how you all used to do it or are you all still using this method?

I'd imagine you'd need 12 or so types per position to have models begin to resemble their real life counterparts... tall/slim, tall/medium, tall/muscular, tall/fat, short/slim...

Randy Moss & Steve Smith play the same position & couldn't look more different. Jeff Garcia & JaMarcus Russell shouldn't be cut from the same mold either.

I won't mention any specific players as I feel 95% of them need work.

[gabs485]

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My biggest gripe with some players models are the legs. Specially the calves, they are too skinny. Thighs in some running backs and wrs aren't big enough either.

But no matter how similar you make the body it won't be noticeable if you don't let us modify the sock height just like Ncaa.

It would make a huge difference, As it now it just looks odd and weird. There is no depth on the sock. It looks like a 2 color long sock and make players look like clowns.

So I'm begging you!! Please let us customize the sock height.


Fitz uses low socks


Desean uses high socks


Asante uses medium socks

And colored shoes too!!

[Jistic]

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In general Michael, I still think many Madden models are too short and stocky. Especially skill guys or DB's. I'd like to see some more length, height, etc. Not everybody is a stocky fireplug in the NFL. Players like Urlacher really don't have giant biceps. I guess in one word the players need to look more ATHLETIC.

[boydra]

Re: Madden NFL 10: Tuning Individual Characters

This week we are starting to go through the rosters and tune each individual player's body to match their real life counter part.

I know as a fan when one of your favorite players is wrong it can take you out of the experience.

So the question to you is: Which players need the most work? Please give specifics. On the flip side are there any players you wouldn't touch?

Thanks as always,

Mike Y

Michael, in regards to the character depiction subject, to what degree is it possible to replicate the faces in conjunction with the real players?

[Blkcanes]

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Sense we are able to add equipment I was wondering players with their cleats tape up to there shin it is way to high.



Look at his cleats that are tape up in madden there are way to big and way to high and I think the white sock must be shown when on the field or it's a fine from the NFL so we should not be able to do it in the game.

Chad Johnson, yes he is dark but he is not as dark as the game makes him to be.
Look at his cleats. the tape is slightly above his ankle but it is not to high. In Madden there is two choice very low or big and very high pass the white socks

and to help you out on the very high socks take a look at Bernard Berrian in this picture

They are very high in the picture but notice his white sock is still showing all NFL players must fallow the uniform rule,(i think)and notice how thin the tape is. In madden the tape are way to thick when you want to make the tape around that player higher. "MY" do you think you would be able to make the tape thinner in the game have the white sock showing at all times. Can we WE PLEASEE! be able to pick the color cleats a player wears I like to mix it up a lot. Don't need any more color just want to be able to choose between White or black. Please. I would really like to hear your input on this I do not think this is that hard to add but I can always be hard. Thanks

Donaldson