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  • youALREADYknow
    MVP
    • Aug 2008
    • 3635

    #91
    Re: NCAA Football 10 Info

    Originally posted by number305
    Are you sure? I thought it was already said that the players are going to do the exact same thing as in last years game, except their heads will be turned to be looking at the ball.

    I don't think this procedural awareness changes AI. I think it just changes where they are looking. Which does not sound right... but that is what I have got from this thread so far. Please correct me if I'm wrong. ( I would love to be wrong on this )
    Yes, you are wrong. Players will no longer be able to react to events that are not in their line of sight. The impact on WR/DB interaction should be huge and defensive awareness should be greatly reduced in situations where the player is not looking at the ball. For example, we shouldn't see players making 180 degree spins in the air to catch an INT.

    Obviously the devs will need to change/remove/add animations to make this work properly and I have my doubts about how well this will be done. Still, this was a much needed change to gameplay that many of us asked for in the past.

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    • thelasthurtknee
      MVP
      • Jun 2003
      • 1459

      #92
      Re: NCAA Football 10 Info

      Originally posted by youALREADYknow
      Yes, you are wrong. Players will no longer be able to react to events that are not in their line of sight. The impact on WR/DB interaction should be huge and defensive awareness should be greatly reduced in situations where the player is not looking at the ball. For example, we shouldn't see players making 180 degree spins in the air to catch an INT.

      Obviously the devs will need to change/remove/add animations to make this work properly and I have my doubts about how well this will be done. Still, this was a much needed change to gameplay that many of us asked for in the past.
      i thought he said the what your saying is not the case. that even though there head is turned away they see them already. they are just making the heads turn so it looks realistic.

      i see how this could affect ai but i dont see how with what we know. there was no mention of timing routes which would give the advantage to the wr on a break. maybe on every single break of every route is when the wr will look back but we dont know.

      from what i got this is just something to make it look more realiistic not play more realistic. but if some game play features are added that this could co exist with then yea maybe and hopefully. but from what the dev said its just fluff at this poitn.

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      • ChicagoSparty
        MVP
        • Jun 2003
        • 1358

        #93
        Re: NCAA Football 10 Info

        Originally posted by youALREADYknow
        Wrong. It drastically changes gameplay.
        I'm not so sure about this. If it radically changed gameplay, I would think the posts about it would be stronger. There has to be a reason they haven't clearly defined what the feature does. Were it some major game changer I promise you there would not be this kind of ambiguity around it.

        My prediction is that people will be disappointed a bit with the feature, but we will see.
        Last edited by ChicagoSparty; 02-10-2009, 12:20 PM.
        Quit making your stupid YouTube videos and start playing the game.

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        • thelasthurtknee
          MVP
          • Jun 2003
          • 1459

          #94
          Re: NCAA Football 10 Info

          yea i agree. he basically said they already see the ball when they are not looking. so all this really does is make it nicer to look at. if they try to tie this into the ai it could cause huge probs.

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          • youALREADYknow
            MVP
            • Aug 2008
            • 3635

            #95
            Re: NCAA Football 10 Info

            The following are all quotes from Ian Cummings, lead developer of Madden 10:

            "Well now we can make a DB track the ball realistically and we’ll make sure that he has a true line of sight before he can make a play on the ball."

            http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2039140588

            http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2039144325

            And finally...

            http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2039144480

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            • thelasthurtknee
              MVP
              • Jun 2003
              • 1459

              #96
              Re: NCAA Football 10 Info

              Originally posted by youALREADYknow
              The following are all quotes from Ian Cummings, lead developer of Madden 10:

              "Well now we can make a DB track the ball realistically and we’ll make sure that he has a true line of sight before he can make a play on the ball."

              http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2039140588

              http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2039144325

              And finally...

              http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2039144480
              a true line of sight visually. that just means he will actually be looking at the ball, not playing the ball any different than they do. nothing about the ai will change with this, hes just saying it will look realistic. if every player has to be looking at the ball to know where it is it would be a complete cluster fxxk.

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              • ChicagoSparty
                MVP
                • Jun 2003
                • 1358

                #97
                Re: NCAA Football 10 Info

                Originally posted by thelasthurtknee
                yea i agree. he basically said they already see the ball when they are not looking. so all this really does is make it nicer to look at. if they try to tie this into the ai it could cause huge probs.
                And don't get me wrong, I think it will be cool and will add significantly to the experience from an immersion perspective. I'm just skeptical about the extent to which people think it will alter the gameplay as we know it.
                Quit making your stupid YouTube videos and start playing the game.

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                • youALREADYknow
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 3635

                  #98
                  Re: NCAA Football 10 Info

                  Originally posted by thelasthurtknee
                  a true line of sight visually. that just means he will actually be looking at the ball, not playing the ball any different than they do. nothing about the ai will change with this, hes just saying it will look realistic. if every player has to be looking at the ball to know where it is it would be a complete cluster fxxk.
                  As I already said earlier....

                  "Obviously the devs will need to change/remove/add animations to make this work properly and I have my doubts about how well this will be done."

                  For example, it has already been confirmed that the spin catch has been removed.

                  Stop trying to combine procedural awareness with the AI changes needed to make it work. They are separate efforts that need to work together. The main reason us NCAA gamers should be concerned is that the NCAA dev cycle ends earlier than Madden's and we might not get a fully functional implementation.

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                  • Gossennator
                    Pro
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 996

                    #99
                    Re: NCAA Football 10 Info

                    NCAA seems so 2nd rate to madden this year. Maybe a little flip-flop please?
                    Who Dat!

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                    • youALREADYknow
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 3635

                      #100
                      Re: NCAA Football 10 Info

                      Originally posted by Gossennator
                      NCAA seems so 2nd rate to madden this year. Maybe a little flip-flop please?
                      Only good thing is that they share the same gameplay team and engine.... and there's still Online Dynasty.

                      Still it's a joke how EA has bastardized NCAA while giving all attention to Madden. NCAA comes out over a month before Madden and yet their staff still can't talk about their game? Ridiculous.

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                      • mjussawalla
                        Pro
                        • May 2008
                        • 775

                        #101
                        Re: NCAA Football 10 Info

                        Originally posted by youALREADYknow
                        Only good thing is that they share the same gameplay team and engine.... and there's still Online Dynasty.

                        Still it's a joke how EA has bastardized NCAA while giving all attention to Madden. NCAA comes out over a month before Madden and yet their staff still can't talk about their game? Ridiculous.
                        I think it has to do with the fact that a lot more attention has been put into EA into Madden this year than previous ones.

                        Madden 09 was the first real game of Madden on next gen. Madden 06-08 were terrible from not only a playability perspective but also from a design point of view. I still can't believe they tried to justify the radio announcer as a cool presentation tool. Between 08 and 09 they had a new team do the development. Madden 10 should be the jump into what gamers expected - so that's probably why you'll hear more about it this year.

                        The NCAA series - except for the 07 game - were decent. Not perfect. But NCAA 08 and 09 were fun playable games. Thus, I would expect NCAA to improve incrementally vs revolutionary.

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                        • OMT
                          MVP
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 2997

                          #102
                          Re: NCAA Football 10 Info

                          Originally posted by youALREADYknow
                          Only good thing is that they share the same gameplay team and engine.... and there's still Online Dynasty.

                          Still it's a joke how EA has bastardized NCAA while giving all attention to Madden. NCAA comes out over a month before Madden and yet their staff still can't talk about their game? Ridiculous.
                          Not sure what we mean. We are keeping announcements parallel between both games. Did Madden announce a second thing this weekend? I might have missed it.

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                          • cowboy_kmoney
                            MVP
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 1621

                            #103
                            Re: NCAA Football 10 Info

                            Originally posted by OMT
                            Not sure what we mean. We are keeping announcements parallel between both games. Did Madden announce a second thing this weekend? I might have missed it.
                            Yes,I think is was player ratings and putting in real players counter parts.This new thing with the ratings should be cool because now we would have to pick right down to a tee in the draft...

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                            • thudias
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 1995

                              #104
                              Re: NCAA Football 10 Info

                              Originally posted by OMT
                              Not sure what we mean. We are keeping announcements parallel between both games. Did Madden announce a second thing this weekend? I might have missed it.
                              Yeah you may want to talk to RAC or Ian the 2nd announcement was made yesterday.
                              Because I can!

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                              • OMT
                                MVP
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 2997

                                #105
                                Re: NCAA Football 10 Info

                                Originally posted by thudias
                                Yeah you may want to talk to RAC or Ian the 2nd announcement was made yesterday.
                                Whoops! I've been locked in a recording studio for two days so I haven't really had much time to check this stuff out.

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