NBA Live 365 and Dynamic DNA: Four Months Later

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  • RaychelSnr
    Executive Editor
    • Jan 2007
    • 4845

    #1

    NBA Live 365 and Dynamic DNA: Four Months Later

    When NBA Live 09 was released last fall, there were two major aspects of the game that reviewers could not pass judgment on -- Live 365 and Dynamic DNA.These were two new features that were so dependent on the start of the actual NBA season that it would have been impossible to evaluate them properly until the actual NBA season had a few months under its belt.

    Four months after the game's release and a few days before the All-Star festivities, I am happy to report that these features are overwhelming successes in my eyes. Do not just take my word for it either, Live 365 and Dynamic DNA were a smashing success with the OS staff and community alike, winning our coveted Best Roster Update award for 2008.

    Why exactly are Live 365 and Dynamic DNA such groundbreaking features? In order to answer that question, I think it is very important to examine the relatively short history of roster updates on consoles.
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  • Ruffy
    MVP
    • Feb 2008
    • 1516

    #2
    Nice read!

    I don't have NBA Live but was always curious how this feature turned out.

    I still think NBA 2K makes a better basketball game overall but this feature sounds great.

    I haven't bought a basketball game in years but features like this makes it very tempting.
    Former Bison, Argonaut, TSN and Sportsnet employee.
    Gaming since the days of the NES, Atari and Intellivision.
    Lifelong Hartford Whaler fan.

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    • The Sim God
      Banned
      • Dec 2008
      • 352

      #3
      eh, its EA.

      ill wait for 2k to do this

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      • rudyjuly2
        Cade Cunningham
        • Aug 2002
        • 14815

        #4
        While DNA may be a great thing, it loses a ton of value by only being used in quick games. Most people start a franchise relatively early after buying their game and play franchise exclusively. This feature does almost nothing for us.

        Once developers let us merge in roster updates with our franchises, the roster updates won't see their true value. How great would it be in a long season like baseball to be able to update all of your player attributes to mimic what's happening in real life? Until a simple merging of attributes with out franchise rosters happens, this feature will be under utilized imo.

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        • stephensonmc
          WW*/*FC C*mm*n*ty Mgr.
          • Mar 2003
          • 2105

          #5
          Re: NBA Live 365 and Dynamic DNA: Four Months Later

          Originally posted by rudyjuly2
          While DNA may be a great thing, it loses a ton of value by only being used in quick games. Most people start a franchise relatively early after buying their game and play franchise exclusively. This feature does almost nothing for us.

          Once developers let us merge in roster updates with our franchises, the roster updates won't see their true value. How great would it be in a long season like baseball to be able to update all of your player attributes to mimic what's happening in real life? Until a simple merging of attributes with out franchise rosters happens, this feature will be under utilized imo.
          Good points rudy. I just want to point out though that it's not as "simple" as it may appear.

          We are looking for more valuable ways to utilize NBA LIVE 365 and recognize that we missed a bit this year with it. BUT, we were new to the tech as well and we have a long partnership that as we discover more things, we'll find out more ways to implement them into our game.
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          • nolan273
            Rookie
            • Jan 2005
            • 194

            #6
            While the inability to incorporate the updates into franchise mode is a bit of a downer, it still must be said that the DNA feature is an amazing addition to all sports games in general. For those that love the NBA2K series, you must admit that EA has raised the bar. This feature will go a long way toward improving sports games across the board from ALL developers. The archaic weekly updates just aren't going to cut it anymore.

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            • rudyjuly2
              Cade Cunningham
              • Aug 2002
              • 14815

              #7
              Originally posted by stephensonmc
              Good points rudy. I just want to point out though that it's not as "simple" as it may appear.

              We are looking for more valuable ways to utilize NBA LIVE 365 and recognize that we missed a bit this year with it. BUT, we were new to the tech as well and we have a long partnership that as we discover more things, we'll find out more ways to implement them into our game.
              I know it may not be as simple to just merge the data (even though database merges in software packages like SPSS is very easy) but if you could find a way to merge in the DNA with franchise/season rosters, you would have a monster hit on your hands. We can only hope.

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              • stephensonmc
                WW*/*FC C*mm*n*ty Mgr.
                • Mar 2003
                • 2105

                #8
                Re: NBA Live 365 and Dynamic DNA: Four Months Later

                Originally posted by rudyjuly2
                I know it may not be as simple to just merge the data (even though database merges in software packages like SPSS is very easy) but if you could find a way to merge in the DNA with franchise/season rosters, you would have a monster hit on your hands. We can only hope.
                I think you'll enjoy what we're doing in 10.
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                • rudyjuly2
                  Cade Cunningham
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 14815

                  #9
                  Originally posted by stephensonmc
                  I think you'll enjoy what we're doing in 10.
                  What a tease! Sounds good.

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                  • Court_vision
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 8290

                    #10
                    Great read.

                    I agree totally. I honestly can't see myself going back to normal rosters / user rosters. 2K is the more complete game now, but I find myself only playing LIVE due to the DNA...

                    And it's only in it's infancy.

                    This is the future. Right here. No going back IMO.

                    I was very sceptical at first...but it's a HUGE leap forward.

                    I don't care which company releases great features. I love NBA games and I'll applaud innovation wherever I see it.

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                    • 23
                      yellow
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 66469

                      #11
                      The feature is great as the article stated. Guys on here being downers are killing me.

                      First of all we didnt even know if the feature would work and had staunch reservations against it because it is EA afterall right? I know I did

                      The first year of a feature like this and you want the entire system to be fully integrated... while I understand, it is also completely unrealistic.

                      I have to agree with CV here, I dont care what company it is... if you're a sports gamer first instead of a company loyalist, there is no way you lose out on something like this. It truly is the future, and can be a measuring stick standard for what it is.

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                      • Court_vision
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 8290

                        #12
                        Re: NBA Live 365 and Dynamic DNA: Four Months Later

                        Originally posted by 23

                        I have to agree with CV here, I dont care what company it is... if you're a sports gamer first instead of a company loyalist, there is no way you lose out on something like this. It truly is the future, and can be a measuring stick standard for what it is.
                        That's the thing Dre, a lot of people here have company based loyalties. I can understand it. EA has a bad history / some people will never get over Madden and NFL 2K. Completely understandable.

                        But ultimately we are sportsgamers and it's nice to see genuine innovation and see things evolving. I didn't pay hundreds of $ for my TV / PS3 / Hi speed internet etc etc so that I could annually sit down and play the same basketball game over and over. I want to see new technology that takes advantages of what these higher end systems can do / new ideas / new features.

                        And DNA is a hell of a good step forward.

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                        • tril
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 2913

                          #13
                          I like the idea of dynamic DNA, but the way the author in this article describes the feature kind of makes the game feel scripted.
                          what good is it if you know Lebron will drop 50 on you at MSG.

                          I agree with the author about the ability to carry this feature into a Dynasty mode,even during a fantasy drafted association. I think this would make the feature more tactical.

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                          • Court_vision
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 8290

                            #14
                            Re: NBA Live 365 and Dynamic DNA: Four Months Later

                            Originally posted by tril
                            I like the idea of dynamic DNA, but the way the author in this article describes the feature kind of makes the game feel scripted.
                            what good is it if you know Lebron will drop 50 on you at MSG.
                            It's not scripted at all...

                            You just know that a player will attack that game...

                            If you defend / bring doubles...he'll pass or miss. It's up to you to try and stop what happened in the real NBA / you try and stop him getting 50.

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                            • rudyjuly2
                              Cade Cunningham
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 14815

                              #15
                              Originally posted by 23
                              The feature is great as the article stated. Guys on here being downers are killing me.

                              First of all we didnt even know if the feature would work and had staunch reservations against it because it is EA afterall right? I know I did

                              The first year of a feature like this and you want the entire system to be fully integrated... while I understand, it is also completely unrealistic.

                              I have to agree with CV here, I dont care what company it is... if you're a sports gamer first instead of a company loyalist, there is no way you lose out on something like this. It truly is the future, and can be a measuring stick standard for what it is.
                              The feature is really neat but I simply pointed out that it's under utilized when you can't merge them in with franchise data. No sports game has allowed this to date so its the logical next step and would make this feature SO much better.

                              I don't see how my comment was "killing you". It's simply my honest opinion and I spoke my mind on a message board. Shocking that comments and message boards are used for such things. I guess honesty is being a downer and frowned upon just because you disagree?

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