NCAA Football 10 Info

[nexdawg]

As long as there are using ideas from other games take player dna from nba live 09! So player stick 2 there tendencies. Qb like South Florida Matt Grothe, and Vatech Tyrod Taylor or runners who never take off in the game. Iikewise pocketpasser should stay in the pocket more often then not! Better tendencies should equal better execution! And with Procedural Awareness it should be great but its gotta work both ways and it should lead 2 more arid passes that hit the ground untouched by either sides

[youALREADYknow]

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As long as there are using ideas from other games take player dna from nba live 09! So player stick 2 there tendencies. Qb like South Florida Matt Grothe, and Vatech Tyrod Taylor or runners who never take off in the game.

This will never happen. EA cannot use NCAA players by name or likeness in any way.

[MtneerManiac]

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This will never happen. EA cannot use NCAA players by name or likeness in any way.

So they can't make scrambling QB's scramble more, and make pocket passers not scramble? How is this violating anything?

And I can almost guarantee that the 'PA' won't affect AI in any way. That'd make the game realistic, and EA wants to stay away from that. It wouldn't be "fun" for the casual gamer that wants to win by blowouts every game. FORGET the fact that they could make the difficulty levels mean more, and work around that. But alas, that would be WAY too intelligent to do.

[nexdawg]

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This will never happen. EA cannot use NCAA players by name or likeness in any way.

Thats not true they have the same jersey number, hgt., wgt. home state! not 2 mention they already do it with speed backs and power backs balanced QB and stuff like that player dna would just take it a step further. Scrambling QB will actually scramble alot more often. They already label the player problem is they dont behave on field how the player are rated on paper and that takes the fun out of it. If i play Ohio St. I want Terrelle Pryor 2 run better than he throws and more often. We might never see it but there are no break any rules

[nexdawg]

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youAlreadyknow

I do agree about PA the impression i got from reading the thread was it will effect the AI in a sense that player can not make plays with out "eye contact with the ball" So no more linebackers running full speed with his back 2 the QB and the out of nowhere jumping 30ft in the air pulling an 180 and a making pick(or bat downs) so if thats the only problem PA fixes i can live with it!

[youALREADYknow]

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So they can't make scrambling QB's scramble more, and make pocket passers not scramble? How is this violating anything?

He said Player DNA. That is a live updating feature to rosters, not player tendencies. Of course they can and should make player's play to their tendencies, but it will always be the job of custom roster editors to make each player in college sports games play like themselves.

[longshanks]

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did they reveal a new feature or anything today yet?

[Vikes1]

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It's not a mistake or bad programming which makes the defenders on kick returns turn and run with the return man. This is how EA wanted it. They wanted people to return KO/Punts at will. It's no accident that offensive speed dwarfs defensive speed, that's the way they wanted it. It's no accident that one can take a Sun Belt team to the national title. It's no accident that one can recruit as well as USC with the same sun belt team. It's no accident one can get a invite to the SEC with that same sun belt team in only 3 years of play. Why would EA want to do these things? Because that's the way the masses want it. So it's silly to think EA will ever decide to not give the masses what they want.

Normally I don't post on the NCAA board, but I just had to respond to your post mOOd. I couldn't agree more with what you've said. Excellent post!

I don't usually defend EA...but I think your right. Their just giving people what most of us want...to win. You choose Temple as your dynasty team, and as you mentioned within 2-3 seasons your invited to the Big East. Two seasons later your National Champions, and everything is right with the world.

It's kind of hard to admit but...how many of us would be pleased if after 10 years of franchise play, you suffered through 10 losing seasons as many teams IRL do? Even for us "Sim heads", we want realism...but only to a certain point.

[MtneerManiac]

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Normally I don't post on the NCAA board, but I just had to respond to your post mOOd. I couldn't agree more with what you've said. Excellent post!

I don't usually defend EA...but I think your right. Their just giving people what most of us want...to win. You choose Temple as your dynasty team, and as you mentioned within 2-3 seasons your invited to the Big East. Two seasons later your National Champions, and everything is right with the world.

It's kind of hard to admit but...how many of us would be pleased if after 10 years of franchise play, you suffered through 10 losing seasons as many teams IRL do? Even for us "Sim heads", we want realism...but only to a certain point.

That's where game difficulty levels should come into play! Pure authentic sim would be the highest difficulty. With arcadish gameplay being the lowest.

As it stands now (at least for NCAA), the lowest difficulty the CPU is mind numbingly dumb, and on Heisman the user players move slower and the CPU cheats to perform better. Horrible programming.

[nexdawg]

He said Player DNA. That is a live updating feature to rosters, not player tendencies. Of course they can and should make player's play to their tendencies, but it will always be the job of custom roster editors to make each player in college sports games play like themselves.

No you are wrong nba live dna is the player tendencies! They change via online but the actual dna is how the player play on the court. If a player is not doing well or playing better they then send the updates 2 change the player dna. So ncaa football could very well put this in the game if they so choose. And that "dna" should affect coaches play calling. I dont know about everybody else ,but im sick of the cpu running triple options with pocket passer. Or watching there running back "run from day light". Iike i said player that stick 2 there tendencies(@ every position) make 4 better execution and most of all better game play which is the most important goal

[youALREADYknow]

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No you are wrong nba live dna is the player tendencies! They change via online but the actual dna is how the player play on the court. If a player is not doing well or playing better they then send the updates 2 change the player dna. So ncaa football could very well put this in the game if they so choose. And that "dna" should affect coaches play calling. I dont know about everybody else ,but im sick of the cpu running triple options with pocket passer. Or watching there running back "run from day light". Iike i said player that stick 2 there tendencies(@ every position) make 4 better execution and most of all better game play which is the most important goal

I think it's a great idea if they do it for TEAM tendencies, but again they can't change PLAYER tendencies for a specific player on the rosters. This is the same reason we will never get player names on rosters and this is the same reason EA resorted to polling random last names from the internet instead of having announcers record real player names.

As far as I'm concerned, however, coordinators and coaches have been around long enough to know their tendencies during the development phase of the game and that's EA's job to match those tendencies. They do a poor job of getting styles of play in the game and that needs to be fixed.

[nexdawg]

OMT

I noticed something while watching the "PA video" and i havent heard anybody say anything about it. In the video you can clearly see the QB go thur "his progression"(for people who dont know what a QB progression is its the order in which a Qb looks @ his receiver) Is this going be a feature in the game(maybe i might be letting the cat out of the bag)? It would greatly add 2 the realism we all ask 4. With this new feature it seem like the perfect time 2 add it. There are so many things it can add 2 the game and should be pretty easy 2 add. And much like real football games it would force player 2 make more pre-snap reads. And help improve defense which needs some help because the defense can "read the QB eyes" which football fans understand is how big time defense player make plays. Madden try 2 capture some realism with the" passing cone" years back but it wasnt right. It can be an easy feature because all the player has 2 do is press that receiver button 2 look in the direction and press it again 2 throw. It would really simulate what its like 2 be a QB no QB can see the whole field like you can now in football games. And as you get better you can "look off the defense" ,but mostly it will force you 2 try and guess what kinda defenes you are going be facing before the ball is even snapped. Which is what seperates QB's with great physical ability from great QB. And another area this will improve this year games is on defense. Everybody is complaining(and rightfully so) about the pass rush and robo QB. This feature would kill 2 birds with 1 stone. Having 2 go thur progession would force a QB 2 hold on 2 the ball longer resulting in more sacks ,more bad passes and maybe finally an intentional grounding on the cpu(i have never gotta one on the cpu since the put that penalty in). Like i said earlier it should be that hard to do because it seems like the QB's with PA is doing it anyways. I dont know if it 2 late for a feature like that or its already in but that 1 feature could mean the difference between "Not this again" or "Damn they finally got it right" I cant thank you guys enuff 4 listen 2 us even when we wine and complain and make smartass comments it is very appreciated!

[nexdawg]

I think it's a great idea if they do it for TEAM tendencies, but again they can't change PLAYER tendencies for a specific player on the rosters. This is the same reason we will never get player names on rosters and this is the same reason EA resorted to polling random last names from the internet instead of having announcers record real player names.

As far as I'm concerned, however, coordinators and coaches have been around long enough to know their tendencies during the development phase of the game and that's EA's job to match those tendencies. They do a poor job of getting styles of play in the game and that needs to be fixed.

Dude they already have tendencies! Speed Back, or hard hitting safety is tendencies so how can you keep saying it cant be done?. What im saying is get more indepth with these tendencies and in nba live 09 have done the best job i have seen of having there player play how they are suppose 2 play (have you played nba live 09?) When then change rosters, implement injuries, or change there dna its apart of Live 365 im not askin 4 that just the dna part. Some QB's take off very quickly some will go thur a few more prgressions before they run and some QB's will harldly ever run they rather throw the ball away! Some back shy away from contact while other backs go looking 2 truck player or some LB's are great in coverage but not suck @ tackling. This is dna player play like there rating. The way they do it now player proformance are completely random so more often then not they dont play 2 there strengths. That is what nba live dna does it makes players play toward there strengths and thats all i want and it can be done without violating and rules

[nexdawg]

As far as I'm concerned, however, coordinators and coaches have been around long enough to know their tendencies during the development phase of the game and that's EA's job to match those tendencies. They do a poor job of getting styles of play in the game and that needs to be fixed.




Thats fine but what happens when they put another QB in the game? When Ohio St. switch from Boeckman 2 Pryor there play calling change 2 suit the strengths of there present QB. Any good coach plays 2 the strength of his team. I know where probably years away from that but the games wont ever be challenging til they do! So i agree in a sense i wanna see better team(or coaching)dna they try 2 do it but it sucks its 2 simple west coast, wishbone, speard its there just not specific enuff 2 make a difference theres a bunch of speard offenses there are more pro-stlye offenses besides the west coast. Bottom line coaches need a serious overhaul as much as the battle @ the line needs 2 be overhauled. another thing cpu coaches should go after kids that fit there system 2.(but im just going off now)

[sdlite42]

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The answer is simple......

NBA players approximatly maybe 600......

College Football Players..... Approximatly 6300 players!!!!

You do the math

NBA teams 30....at the very most 15 games to monitor ona night ( ant not everyone plays on a night so a lot less....

NCAA Division 1 schools I think 116 thast like 58 games (give or take a few)every saturday!!!!