Major League Baseball 2K9 Video: A's @ Mariners (Bottom 9)

[Knight165]

Re: Major League Baseball 2K9 Video: A's @ Mariners (Bottom 9)

So in other words, your rant was just as bad mine as you are calling me out? Thanks for the advice. Take it from the pros I guess.

Whatever, this is priceless and all because someone can't express their opinions and they jump on someone like little kids in a school yard with personal comments. No worries, I ger it some people will always never listen to both sides but that is not me. I tried to tell him to look at the vid again and he got personal. Mature people up in this thread.

Back to the video please like when I had originally commented. It's a logical play and it's impressive with the crowds. They were standing the whole 9th inning cheering.

Excuse me?
You call me a troll and I got personal? I in no way "got personal".
You can't take a little ribbing?(and I even stated in the thread that I was half kidding with my comments).
You're taking this way too seriously.
Chill. Please.

M.K.
Knight165

[Mariners4411]

Re: Major League Baseball 2K9 Video: A's @ Mariners (Bottom 9)

If Ichiro is on second base, and that ball gets hit up the middle, and assuming the CF is playing where he was in the context of the game, there is not a centerfielder in the game that throws that ball home. They scoop the ball up, and jog to the bench. In fact, let's say that the shortstop happened to be playing short centerfield and made a diving play on the ball. The game is over with Ichiro running off second base. Period. I love arguing baseball as much as the other guy, but there is not a centerfielder in the game that throws Ichiro out on that play. None. David Ortiz? Maybe. Ichiro? Not a chance in hell.

exactly

[fiedler2k3]

Re: Major League Baseball 2K9 Video: A's @ Mariners (Bottom 9)

Everyone here is talking about the throw that SHOULD be made to home play anyways no matter how close was Ishiro to score but,

1 - What happens with the coaching on that inning? away team with the game tied and the bottom of the nine, man on second and one out, you HAVE to walk the guy (at the moment that Ishiro stole second base) with 1st base open there is NO WAY that you pitch any hitter, you walk the hitter then setup for the double play, even if you decided to pitch with one out witch is a terrible mistake, and you are lucky enought to get the second out, you walk the next hitter then look for the force out.
2- The CF should be playing short to avoid what happens at the end.
3- No celebration at all at the end of the game.
4- The coach decided to leave a right hander pitcher against a lefty???

I hate to bring the other game but I have seen soo many times the CPU play as mention above on The Show, but it seems that until 2K redone this baseball game from scratch they are not going to get it right. After seeing this video I completely removed this game from my GameQ on Gamefly....

[SoxFan01605]

Re: Major League Baseball 2K9 Video: A's @ Mariners (Bottom 9)

Everyone here is talking about the throw that SHOULD be made to home play anyways no matter how close was Ishiro to score but,

1 - What happens with the coaching on that inning? away team with the game tied and the bottom of the nine, man on second and one out, you HAVE to walk the guy (at the moment that Ishiro stole second base) with 1st base open there is NO WAY that you pitch any hitter, you walk the hitter then setup for the double play, even if you decided to pitch with one out witch is a terrible mistake, and you are lucky enought to get the second out, you walk the next hitter then look for the force out.
2- The CF should be playing short to avoid what happens at the end.
3- No celebration at all at the end of the game.
4- The coach decided to leave a right hander pitcher against a lefty???

I hate to bring the other game but I have seen soo many times the CPU play as mention above on The Show, but it seems that until 2K redone this baseball game from scratch they are not going to get it right. After seeing this video I completely removed this game from my GameQ on Gamefly....

You bring up some good points. I think the game ending as a whole was spotty, both gameplay wise and presentationally.

Some of that may be tweaked by the final, but I honestly believe that's going to be part of the sacrifice with the "real-time" (in terms of presentation aspects) in it's early stages. There will likely be many situational gaffes and inconsistencies, which may be why most games have not attempted it in this way. Innovative, to be sure, but some lumps will undoubtedly be taken here.

The gameplay scenarios are a different concern as it could mean for some cheap runs, outs, or whatver depending on the given situation. Not saying that's something exclusive to this game (it's not...every game has quirks in this regard) or that it will be the case when all is finalized. It's something to keep an eye on though.

On a bit of an aside, isn't the gamefly thing for rentals? Why drop it as a rental (especially since it's no extra cost in that way) and not at least try it? Just curious.

[NumberOneRB]

Re: Major League Baseball 2K9 Video: A's @ Mariners (Bottom 9)

Could we all just relax a little bit and wait for the retail version or SimBaller to clear some of the arguments some of you are having? All the bickering in this topic and a couple others is getting really annoying to have to read through all of it. Lets all just agree to disagree and respect one anothers opinions as just that...OPINIONS. We're not going to know the full extent of some of these issues until we get our hands on the retail copy.

[bigfnjoe96]

Re: Major League Baseball 2K9 Video: A's @ Mariners (Bottom 9)

Everyone here is talking about the throw that SHOULD be made to home play anyways no matter how close was Ishiro to score but,

1 - What happens with the coaching on that inning? away team with the game tied and the bottom of the nine, man on second and one out, you HAVE to walk the guy (at the moment that Ishiro stole second base) with 1st base open there is NO WAY that you pitch any hitter, you walk the hitter then setup for the double play, even if you decided to pitch with one out witch is a terrible mistake, and you are lucky enought to get the second out, you walk the next hitter then look for the force out.
2- The CF should be playing short to avoid what happens at the end.
3- No celebration at all at the end of the game.
4- The coach decided to leave a right hander pitcher against a lefty???

I hate to bring the other game but I have seen soo many times the CPU play as mention above on The Show, but it seems that until 2K redone this baseball game from scratch they are not going to get it right. After seeing this video I completely removed this game from my GameQ on Gamefly....

You do know there were 2 outs when the game winning hit happen don't you? hence why the CF was playing a little deeper than normal. As for walking the hitter with a base open to get the force not every manager will do that. The point about switching the pitcher for match-up reason is something that would've been nice to see

[fiedler2k3]

Re: Major League Baseball 2K9 Video: A's @ Mariners (Bottom 9)

You bring up some good points. I think the game ending as a whole was spotty, both gameplay wise and presentationally.

Some of that may be tweaked by the final, but I honestly believe that's going to be part of the sacrifice with the "real-time" (in terms of presentation aspects) in it's early stages. There will likely be many situational gaffes and inconsistencies, which may be why most games have not attempted it in this way. Innovative, to be sure, but some lumps will undoubtedly be taken here.

The gameplay scenarios are a different concern as it could mean for some cheap runs, outs, or whatver depending on the given situation. Not saying that's something exclusive to this game (it's not...every game has quirks in this regard) or that it will be the case when all is finalized. It's something to keep an eye on though.

On a bit of an aside, isn't the gamefly thing for rentals? Why drop it as a rental (especially since it's no extra cost in that way) and not at least try it? Just curious.

If you dont have Gamefly I strongly recommended, I buy all my games from there, while you pay 60 for new games, you just get the games as rent from then, then keep the game for 45.00, in other words you buy the game for $45.00! as soon as you pay the extra money, they send you the next game available on your Gameq.
I usually buy the Sports Games, then rent the other games, but honestly, dont want to offense but this game is going to be a waste of time as always, I remember the good 2K3 and 2K4, but since then has been always a problem, I can live with dughtout same animations (some time wrong) with no celebrations, or bad graphics, but a baseball video game has to play as "baseball" not walking the hitter when Ishiro stole second, not throwing home, not calling a lefty against the lefty (all of this is on The Show) is like shooting a 2 points shoot when you need 3 in a basketball game with 1.0 second left or kinking a FG when you need a TD on FB game.

[fiedler2k3]

Re: Major League Baseball 2K9 Video: A's @ Mariners (Bottom 9)

You do know there were 2 outs when the game winning hit happen don't you? hence why the CF was playing a little deeper than normal. As for walking the hitter with a base open to get the force not every manager will do that. The point about switching the pitcher for match-up reason is something that would've been nice to see

Yes, i know were 2 outs, because the manager took the risk on pitching with 1 out, man on second base, with the 1st base open, I would like to see when a manager in the Major let that happnes, is a no brain situation and it is on the book of EVERY manager, as well switching the pitcher, who was at the plate on the final play, who was next? I read every year you guys finding a way to justify the gameplay problems on this game (is the demo, is the betta, is a video) then crying later when the "final version" finally arrives.
MLB 2K and Madden are franchises that need to be redone from scratch. That's how MVP born, after several failures with the Triple Play franchise.

[bigfnjoe96]

Re: Major League Baseball 2K9 Video: A's @ Mariners (Bottom 9)

Yes, i know were 2 outs, because the manager took the risk on pitching with 1 out, man on second base, with the 1st base open, I would like to see when a manager in the Major let that happnes, is a no brain situation and it is on the book of EVERY manager, as well switching the pitcher, who was at the plate on the final play, who was next? I read every year you guys finding a way to justify the gameplay problems on this game (is the demo, is the betta, is a video) then crying later when the "final version" finally arrives.
MLB 2K and Madden are franchises that need to be redone from scratch. That's how MVP born, after several failures with the Triple Play franchise.

No ones justifying anything, just pointing other reason of maybe why the CPU did what it did. I'm not an A's fan, but since Huston Street is gone maybe the CPU has Joey Divine as the Closer. Now what manager removes his closer after 1 batter because someone got on base?

[ThreeKing]

Re: Major League Baseball 2K9 Video: A's @ Mariners (Bottom 9)

I didn't read the whole thread, but I'd like to know why Ichiro was bunting.

[MizzouRah]

Re: Major League Baseball 2K9 Video: A's @ Mariners (Bottom 9)

I didn't read the whole thread, but I'd like to know why Ichiro was bunting.

Tie game, bottom of the 9th, no outs, man on 1st... I'd bunt Ichiro every time... of course I'm an NL guy.

[MizzouRah]

Re: Major League Baseball 2K9 Video: A's @ Mariners (Bottom 9)

1. Fans standing up the whole inning is great.
2. The real time camera shots are great.
3. I would have walked the next batter after Ichiro stole 2nd base to set up the double play.
4. Definitely would have brought in a LH pitcher to pitch to Branyan - if I didn't have a LH pitcher, I wouldn't have given him much to hit.
5. I was going to say the OF was playing too deep on that last hit, but there were two outs, so I'm fine with that.
6. Would be neat to see the crowd leaving the game after it's over and they pan out.
7. At 4:05, it looks like Branyan skates by on ice past the camera.

[SoxFan01605]

Re: Major League Baseball 2K9 Video: A's @ Mariners (Bottom 9)

If you dont have Gamefly I strongly recommended, I buy all my games from there, while you pay 60 for new games, you just get the games as rent from then, then keep the game for 45.00, in other words you buy the game for $45.00! as soon as you pay the extra money, they send you the next game available on your Gameq.
I usually buy the Sports Games, then rent the other games, but honestly, dont want to offense but this game is going to be a waste of time as always, I remember the good 2K3 and 2K4, but since then has been always a problem, I can live with dughtout same animations (some time wrong) with no celebrations, or bad graphics, but a baseball video game has to play as "baseball" not walking the hitter when Ishiro stole second, not throwing home, not calling a lefty against the lefty (all of this is on The Show) is like shooting a 2 points shoot when you need 3 in a basketball game with 1.0 second left or kinking a FG when you need a TD on FB game.

It's cool, I was just curious. I have a gamepass through blockbuster (I like the options for renting better) but yeah...having a "rent-to-buy" option is nice because you never have to get sucked into a bad game.

I'm purchasing The Show as well, but I'm definitely renting this game for the 360 and may eventually get it on the PC if all looks good on that route after some reviews and bugs/glitches are revealed.

[Brooklynnets24]

Re: Major League Baseball 2K9 Video: A's @ Mariners (Bottom 9)

there was so many things wrong with this video it isnt even funny.

[glcmustliveon]

Re: Major League Baseball 2K9 Video: A's @ Mariners (Bottom 9)

Two things:
1) I hope Steve wanted to test out the bunting in this game (or meant to bunt for a base hit), because I don't think it's good baseball to sac bunt with your best hitter up in the ninth inning

2) As far as the lefty coming in out of the bullpen, are we sure there was a better pitcher in the bullpen. I don't think platoon matchups should completely dominate a managers decision, the quality of the two pitchers should matter as well.