Major League Baseball 2K9 Video: Orioles @ Bluejays (Hits)

[twiztiddarkangelman]

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To me these are major flaws and while the over all game looks much better to me then last years, (sans all the ads) They should have shelved this game until you had something more playable, or at the very least discounted the price since the game is not up to standard yet. I always had high hopes for this game. I love the game of baseball and virtually have played all video games pertaining to the sport. I still have high hopes for this game they have made some great strides but they've come from a long way back too.

[kGinGreen]

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It definately makes you wonder what direction 2k is heading, because they have been all over the place lately. From a business perspective that can't bode well. I can understand wanting to get the game looking good this year and capitalizing on the license and all the 360 owners that dont have a choice, vs making a game that had horrible presentation and dated franchise and plays great. I think they probably came to the decision to get it looking and flowing nice first. Plus I dont think the gameplay was all that bad. It seems improved somewhat from last year and they are doing the right things here. But it does give that impression that 2k is keeping their head above water here vs releasing a complete product.

[kGinGreen]

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I'll be happy if this is a B+ effort and from what I've seen I think it will be. I think it will be on par with nba 2k9 and probably better than that game. Which is amazing when you think about it, considering how bad last years game was. That's not to say they don't need to really delve into gameplay next year. From what I've seen we shouldn't be nitpicking VC too hard here. You can tell the hard work that has been put in here. They only had so much time and you can't do everything in a year or two. If you played 2k8 and were expecting a perfect game here you are kidding yourself. We should be happy they did what they did. This game looks great and it should give new life to the series imo.

On that note I really had no issue with that markakis homerun. It seems like it was missing a frame or something and wasn't that unrealistic. Was it everything we hoped it could be? Probably not but it was not that big a deal. I agree that these things should be pointed out and hopefully 2k reads this stuff. But this game is going to be loads of fun and I cant wait. I'm just a gamer and like playing games and 2k isn't paying me to fix their games and drive myself nuts nitpicking every little thing.

[baa7]

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I think the danger here is basing conclusions on Flash video replays. These videos are not doing the game justice. Especially, in this video.

However, there is definitely a drop in frames. Watch the batboy picking up the bat. The bat morphs into his hands. An entire frame is missing. 2K claimed that these things are improved upon in the final build. I just read the Game Informer article previewing the game and they mentioned that the early build they had was better than last year's (In the framerate dept.).

If you're implying the HR hit was a result of missing frames, I don't understand the logic. It was still a HR, and would have been if the video was running smoothly. In defense of that particular play, it's important to point out that both the power and contact sliders have a lot to do with balls flying out of the stadium. Lower the power slider and that ball becomes a lazy fly to LF.

[baa7]

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But it does give that impression that 2k is keeping their head above water.

It felt that way last year with Kush. But with VC taking over this and the NHL series, there's a sense 2K is trying to raise the quality of their product, and address concerns that people have had with both games the past few years.

[baa7]

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On that note I really had no issue with that markakis homerun.

People keep saying that. But I'm wondering if they played 2K8. One game I had Ortiz golf a pitch in the dirt over the LF wall. It was so ridiculously unrealistic, I stopped the game and restarted with Ortiz leading off. I intentionally pitched balls off the plate outside and below the knees. Nevertheless he connected on a 3-1 count and sent the pitch over the LF wall again. The replay showed the pitch was 10-12 inches off the plate, knee-high. As Blzer and others have pointed out, it was a definite programming issue last year.

[kGinGreen]

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People keep saying that. But I'm wondering if they played 2K8. One game I had Ortiz golf a pitch in the dirt over the LF wall. It was so ridiculously unrealistic, I stopped the game and restarted with Ortiz leading off. I intentionally pitched balls off the plate outside and below the knees. Nevertheless he connected on a 3-1 count and sent the pitch over the LF wall again. The replay showed the pitch was 10-12 inches off the plate, knee-high. As Blzer and others have pointed out, it was a definite programming issue last year.

I played 2k8. I thought it was sort of fun, I liked the controls but it was incredibly arcadish and unrealistic plus the stadiums and framerates were pathetic. It was a bad game. I'm hoping 2k does better here. We will see. If it's improved and gives fairly realistic games out of the box I will be happy. I am a nut when it comes to realism as well and getting realistic situations and want the same things you do. But I'm just not expecting miracles here. I think this is 2k and they always drop the ball in some gameplay aspect.

I also played 2k7 and thought it was pretty solid once you tweaked the hell out of it. The tweaking hte hell out of it was really a pain though. Yeah you had to turn off inside edge. Still way too many hr's in 2k7 plus that fielding at the wall thing was ridiculous with the wall grabs.

This game looks so much better than both of those games.

[mwjr]

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This game is quite beautiful. Major upgrade from 2K8.

[mwjr]

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I hope they got copyright permission from Mattell on the runners moving on the bases graphic. Most of you are way too young, but for those of you who may have played electric baseball, didn't it remind you of that??

; )

ROTFLMAO!!!

I was watching those dumb icons trying to remember where'd I seen them before. You hit the nail on the head.

Lord, I needed that laugh!

[DickDalewood]

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ya the out of town score boards look odd with no scores on them. They could have at least put random scores on them instead of being blank

My thoughts exactly. Why not just put some static scores up there? The scoreboards look ridiculous completely empty like that.

That doesn't look CLOSE to a strike. It's WAY outside and tailing. End of the bat . . . NO ONE hits that over the left field wall, let alone over the bullpen.

EXACTLY. And that picture ends the argument. The fact that people will still try to defend it just shows a blind loyalism, which gets SO OLD, and seems to be more rampant than ever in these 2K forums. We can't even discuss the positives and negatives in a civil matter anymore without a handful of characters (usually the same ones) bombarding the thread with "What are you talking about, this game is beautiful!!! You clearly are a Show lover!!" Blah blah BLAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

As so many have said already, THE GAME LOOKS IMPROVED, no on has said it doesn't... but it still has blatantly obvious flaws (ex: this homerun). I think everyone with the common sense to view things with a level head agree that VC looks to be taking it in the right direction, it's just not quite there yet.

[brendanrfoley]

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I won't excuse the homerun in that video; it's pretty bad.

I have hopes for a good set of sliders though, including the Hit Influence Impact (or whatever it's called). That could prevent people from pulling low and away pitches 450 feet into the stands.

[allBthere]

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I understand the concern about the HR because until we play the game, all we have to go by is history and that's not too promising in this regard...lol. It's perfectly plausible, given the game code, while tweaked, has not been changed at it's base (from what the developers have said...I claim no personal knowledge of such things...lol).

Obviously, it's a different developer so the chance is there that it's changed. I don't personally have a problem with it being possible to happen as long as it's not like it was in previous installments. We'll see for sure soon enough.

EDIT: To add, I'm actually on the opposite side of this concern/curiousity (whatever you want to call it) than Blzer, for example. I was more bugged by the Ortiz's shot (based on the previous problems in the series) than Markakis. At least he sort of went with the pitch. Ortiz mostly pulled the outside and low pitch. To each his own though.

I don't watch boston that much. But I know a lot of hitters pound outside pitches for homeruns and pull them. Vlad G., Frank Thomas, Joe Carter for example. I have absolutley no problem with it. If I guy pulls the ball alot, he'll pull outside pitches too (usually to left/center if he's right handed).

[CarryTheWeight]

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I believe the scoreboard don't work this year. At least that is what one of them said. I think.

The LED boards in the outfield at Dodgers work:



You'd think they'd include the same animation as the LCD ribbons in Rogers (the team logo scrolling). But leaving them blank is pretty weird-looking.

[Chad Rogers]

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People keep saying that. But I'm wondering if they played 2K8. One game I had Ortiz golf a pitch in the dirt over the LF wall. It was so ridiculously unrealistic, I stopped the game and restarted with Ortiz leading off. I intentionally pitched balls off the plate outside and below the knees. Nevertheless he connected on a 3-1 count and sent the pitch over the LF wall again. The replay showed the pitch was 10-12 inches off the plate, knee-high. As Blzer and others have pointed out, it was a definite programming issue last year.

Since we have not played the game yet, any of us and don't know what the end result will be I won't say it's all fixed...
If you have watched baseball and I know you have, players hit balls out of the park on terrible pitches, ugly looking swings etc. Manny hit a memorable HR last year completely out on his front foot and a horrible looking swing. To be surprised that Papi can hit a ball out anywhere should not be a surprise. Now if he hits 80 in a season it's a problem. As a Mariner fan I have been watching Vlad kill us for years on balls that are nowhere near the strike zone and they always seem to fly out of the park.

[ShowTyme15]

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The LED boards in the outfield at Dodgers work:



You'd think they'd include the same animation as the LCD ribbons in Rogers (the team logo scrolling). But leaving them blank is pretty weird-looking.

it's like what one of teh Mods said. Stuff will probably show up on the LED's in franchise and the Blue Jays videos are probably in exhibition so that might be the reason for them being blank.