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  • seveb
    Rookie
    • Mar 2005
    • 62

    #1786
    Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

    For me, the batter/pitcher interface is 90% of a baseball game, and I must say that I am WOWed by the improvement in this area.

    Last year I couldn't get around on fastballs (HOF difficulty), but it didn't matter because I could be pretty late even on an inside fastball and hit it very hard and very far the other way. I'd use pretty much the same timing to pull offspeed pitches. Pitches like sliders seemed a little "floaty". I could track them as they looped across the zone, and check my swing at the last second. 2 strike hitting was no big deal-I could check up easily on all balls and foul off pitches all day. Basically, everything was so forgiving.

    Now I can get around on fastballs (and have to if I want to jack them), and the offspeed pitches work so much better. Hamels is just NASTY. Kazmir's slider breaks off so hard and late, and it is so much harder to check up if I'm really fooled (as it should be). On legend, the hitting zone seems a lot more important as well. Two strike hitting is really nerve-racking, and if I get my pitch early in the count, I really feel the need to get ahold of it. As someone who fell squarely into the "too many hits" crowd, I think I'll be happier than in pig in s*** this year.

    The ball physics seem very much improved (less "floaty"). A scalded ball in the gap or down the line is really scalded. I know the fielding irks a lot of people, but it seems improved this year. Diving plays are now rare and impressive. In 08, I'd have at least a couple diving plays a game; now the ball often squeezes under the glove or just out of reach.

    Outside of things the guys have already confirmed fixed for the final build (stuck-in-the-mud outfielders), I can't say I've found a major problem. I know it's cause everybody's getting anxious to play the full game, but some of the quibbles seems awfully nitpicky. (I never see an outfielder trip and fall down. HOW COME OUTFIELDERS DON'T EVER TRIP AND FALL DOWN) jk. I guess I'd like to see more of a difference in the throwing meter between safe and slow tosses vs more risky guns, and maybe the pickoff/stolen base sytem could be revamped. The 2K9 videos looked like they had something where the pitcher actually has to look over manually (maybe with a small penalty if he throws a pitch quickly after looking back) that looked kind of cool.

    This was kind of long and rambly. But I know the SCEA guys stop in here from time to time, and just wanted them to know they've done a marvelous job this year. I think the batter/pitcher interface is darn near perfect! Also, I'm usually a cynical jerk, so I'm hard to please.

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    • SoxFan01605
      All Star
      • Jan 2008
      • 7982

      #1787
      Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

      Didn't see anything wrong with the slide (7ft=hyperbole though...lol) as momentum would take you past a base...happens all the time.

      Collision detection is not present in the game...demo version or final. I honestly don't know why it's brought up daily...but whatever.

      I haven't had an issue preloading in the demo, but I know it would happen on DPs a lot in 08. Hopefully it's infrequent.

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      • Knight165
        *ll St*r
        • Feb 2003
        • 24964

        #1788
        Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

        Originally posted by dave_sz
        No there wouldn't. If that specific thing happened, Howard would be called for interference since he's in he baserunners way, right?

        Another thing that has been happening ALL THE TIME is throwing out the base stealer at 2nd. 99% of the time, the catcher throws the ball high and the 2nd baseman has to jump therefore he guy is always safe a 2nd. This is happening both when I'm stealing as well as when i'm trying to throw the guy out. And this early build as well as the "we saw nothing like this at the community day or whatever it was" CAN'T be an answer for everything! You guys answer some questions that you get with a " we didn't have enough time to try this or we didn't see this"but other you answer we didn;t see it so it isn't there. Just cause you didn't see it doesn't mean it was fixed. Truth is for most of the things you DON'T know if they were fixed unless the devs or people there specifically told you so.
        Bro

        Take it easy.
        We do our best.
        Do me a favor....don't ask any more questions. I'm not on anyone's dime with this.
        WTF do you think I owe you?
        Jesus friggin' christ

        M.K.
        Knight165
        All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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        • Scottdau
          Banned
          • Feb 2003
          • 32580

          #1789
          Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

          Originally posted by dave_sz
          No there wouldn't. If that specific thing happened, Howard would be called for interference since he's in he baserunners way, right?

          Another thing that has been happening ALL THE TIME is throwing out the base stealer at 2nd. 99% of the time, the catcher throws the ball high and the 2nd baseman has to jump therefore he guy is always safe a 2nd. This is happening both when I'm stealing as well as when i'm trying to throw the guy out. And this early build as well as the "we saw nothing like this at the community day or whatever it was" CAN'T be an answer for everything! You guys answer some questions that you get with a " we didn't have enough time to try this or we didn't see this"but other you answer we didn;t see it so it isn't there. Just cause you didn't see it doesn't mean it was fixed. Truth is for most of the things you DON'T know if they were fixed unless the devs or people there specifically told you so.
          LMAO< wow! Any ways I think you need to just come to the fact it is a VIDEO GAME! That is just how it is!

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          • dave_sz
            Pro
            • Mar 2005
            • 575

            #1790
            Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

            Originally posted by Knight165
            Bro

            Take it easy.
            We do our best.
            Do me a favor....don't ask any more questions. I'm not on anyone's dime with this.
            WTF do you think I owe you?
            Jesus friggin' christ

            M.K.
            Knight165
            are you serious? You owe me what? you're offended simply cause I said that you MIGHT not be 100% sure what you're saying is true. That you guys should say that "hey we didn't see it when we played" instead of "we didn't see it so it's fixed". I understand you're one of the slider or roster guys and that i'll be singing praises to you all when you do all the rosters stuff. But what if someone comes here asks a question and you say yep, it's fixed. Then he buys the game and it happens to him and he comes in here and calls you a liar?

            Originally posted by Scottdau
            LMAO< wow! Any ways I think you need to just come to the fact it is a VIDEO GAME! That is just how it is!
            really? wow? great response...

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            • Motown
              OS Brew Connoisseur
              • Jul 2002
              • 9169

              #1791
              Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

              lol...had a weird thing happen a while ago. Longoria(sp) hit a ball deep in the gap, off the wall...thing is, Werth(sp) was going back on the ball, & when he got to the warning track, it was like he hit an invisible barrier or he essentially crashed in to the wall...[b]15 ft FROM the wall.

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              • Scottdau
                Banned
                • Feb 2003
                • 32580

                #1792
                Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

                Originally posted by dave_sz
                are you serious? You owe me what? you're offended simply cause I said that you MIGHT not be 100% sure what you're saying is true. That you guys should say that "hey we didn't see it when we played" instead of "we didn't see it so it's fixed". I understand you're one of the slider or roster guys and that i'll be singing praises to you all when you do all the rosters stuff. But what if someone comes here asks a question and you say yep, it's fixed. Then he buys the game and it happens to him and he comes in here and calls you a liar?


                really? wow? great response...
                Your welcome. Any time I can help. I am for you! Any ways I deleted the demo. I am going to wait for the real game to come out.

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                • DickDalewood

                  #1793
                  Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

                  Originally posted by dave_sz
                  No there wouldn't. If that specific thing happened, Howard would be called for interference since he's in he baserunners way, right?

                  Another thing that has been happening ALL THE TIME is throwing out the base stealer at 2nd. 99% of the time, the catcher throws the ball high and the 2nd baseman has to jump therefore he guy is always safe a 2nd. This is happening both when I'm stealing as well as when i'm trying to throw the guy out. And this early build as well as the "we saw nothing like this at the community day or whatever it was" CAN'T be an answer for everything! You guys answer some questions that you get with a " we didn't have enough time to try this or we didn't see this"but other you answer we didn;t see it so it isn't there. Just cause you didn't see it doesn't mean it was fixed. Truth is for most of the things you DON'T know if they were fixed unless the devs or people there specifically told you so.
                  Dude, I don't know WHAT you're doing, because I literally throw the guy out trying to steal second almost every time. And I'm not just saying that to be an ***... seriously, I've been throwing lasers to second.

                  Also, why jump all over the Community Day guys for trying to offer us some insight? If they say it's fixed or tweaked in the final build, then why SHOULDN'T we believe them? Just a thought...

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                  • jim416
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 10606

                    #1794
                    Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

                    And this early build as well as the "we saw nothing like this at the community day or whatever it was" CAN'T be an answer for everything! You guys answer some questions that you get with a " we didn't have enough time to try this or we didn't see this"but other you answer we didn;t see it so it isn't there. Just cause you didn't see it doesn't mean it was fixed. Truth is for most of the things you DON'T know if they were fixed unless the devs or people there specifically told you so.
                    Good grief Dave, what do you want? If we CAN'T answer it just to please you, what do you want, huh? Who said because we didn't see it it's not there. I just told you, DAVE, that there is no collision detection and that you will see somethings like what you posted, but from what we saw they have done a good job with the animations so that there is less detectable collision.

                    So, what do you want , Dave, huh?

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                    • jim416
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 10606

                      #1795
                      Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

                      Then he buys the game and it happens to him and he comes in here and calls you a liar?
                      And DAVE, I expect you will be the first one in line with your "liar" bullcrap. We did our friggin' best. What's your point. What do you want?

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                      • SoxFan01605
                        All Star
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 7982

                        #1796
                        Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

                        Originally posted by jim416
                        Good grief Dave, what do you want? If we CAN'T answer it just to please you, what do you want, huh? Who said because we didn't see it it's not there. I just told you, DAVE, that there is no collision detection and that you will see somethings like what you posted, but from what we saw they have done a good job with the animations so that there is less detectable collision.

                        So, what do you want , Dave, huh?
                        I can't speak for Dave...but I would like 2 free tickets to any game that the Mets and Yankees are both home at the same time, so I can see both new parks.

                        Thank you so much Jim for offering...that's really nice of youyou're not as crabby and mean as I thought...lol.

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                        • dave_sz
                          Pro
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 575

                          #1797
                          Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

                          Originally posted by dickdalewood
                          Dude, I don't know WHAT you're doing, because I literally throw the guy out trying to steal second almost every time. And I'm not just saying that to be an ***... seriously, I've been throwing lasers to second.

                          Also, why jump all over the Community Day guys for trying to offer us some insight? If they say it's fixed or tweaked in the final build, then why SHOULDN'T we believe them? Just a thought...
                          Like I said, it's both me and the CPU that is doing this. Seems every time I fire up he PS3 and play the demo, a different hing happens over and over.
                          I guess no one cares. I was just pointing out that what they say goes and it's just that they don't know what they are saying is 100% true.
                          Either way, I love you all bye...

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                          • AlexBrady
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 3341

                            #1798
                            Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

                            Originally posted by Knight165
                            Bro

                            Take it easy.
                            We do our best.
                            Do me a favor....don't ask any more questions. I'm not on anyone's dime with this.
                            WTF do you think I owe you?
                            Jesus friggin' christ

                            M.K.
                            Knight165
                            Will you relax? Jeez.

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                            • jim416
                              Banned
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 10606

                              #1799
                              Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

                              Yeah, see ya around.

                              DEMO MID FRIGGIN DECEMBER BUILD!!!

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                              • Knight165
                                *ll St*r
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 24964

                                #1800
                                Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

                                Originally posted by AlexBrady
                                Will you relax? Jeez.
                                Why?
                                Do I sound uptight?
                                I asked the fella not to ask me questions.
                                He doesn't sound interested in what I have to say anyway.
                                No skin off my nose.

                                M.K.
                                Knight165
                                All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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