Madden NFL 10 Blog - Improvements to QB Position

[DrewBledsoe]

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Sounds superb

I have a question though Ian:- In 09, Collinsworth often says "he throws on the run" when Your QB clearly isn't. This is often when you drop back , and move slightly around in the pocket, and then release almost simultaneously. By this definition, a great pocket presence passer Like Peyton, would throw almost every pass "on the run".

There's a big difference throwing while scrambling, to throwing while say moving up in the pocket slightly to avoid the rush. A lot of QB's drop back and kinda bounce on their toes (I did when I played QB, it stops you being caught flatfooted if a pass rusher breaks free). Favre was the severe example, he practically never literally "set his feet".

So my question is basically:- "how are you going to differentiate between throwing when scrambling, or throwing while shifting in the pocket"? Thanks in advance

Oh and btw great moment in that blog :-

...so if you are trying to throw it to low to a player on a quick smash, you would put it in the dirt (assuming that your QB's short accuracy rating determined the pass would be inaccurate). Eagles fans probably know this phenomenon all too well.

You know its Sad but True Philly folks

[wordtobigbird]

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i wonder how mad people are going to get when passes arnt thrown perfectly. they are playing their friend and on a final drive a pass just happens to be errant and they lose and they get mad at EA for such a bull**** throw or something.

[K_GUN]

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i wonder how mad people are going to get when passes arnt thrown perfectly. they are playing their friend and on a final drive a pass just happens to be errant and they lose and they get mad at EA for such a bull**** throw or something.

great post...save this for Aug....then remind them that 'they wanted realistic gameplay'

[Vikes1]

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Good stuff. Ian, so my question is, if layered blending is what you are using to overcome the suction sack, then can you also use it in overcoming suction blocking and tackling?

Great question.

Just a guess LB...but if not in '10', it sure sounds like we're headed for it in the foreseeable future.

[netking23]

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Thats the point of the blog.

while i don't disagree with u on the point of the blog. i was hoping they would give a little more info about this. forgive me if i missed he expanded on this and i just didn't see it

[adembroski]

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Ian, one thing that was mentioned that isn't getting too much comments here is the accuracy hit that QB's will take when on the run. Please Please Please for the love of whichever god u serve do something about this. i'm sure i'm not alone when i say i'm tired of players that take off out of the pocket as soon as the ball is snapped and still can hit a receiver 50 yards down the field while running at full speed. NFL QB's only scamble when they have to and THEY ALL take an accuracy hit. A significant one at that.

You gotta read, man.

4. Throw on the Run: Creates a modifier to accuracy when the QB is throwing on the run. Every QB will take some sort of accuracy hit when throwing on the run, but a QB that has a high rating here will take a smaller hit.

[Madwolf]

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This really got me excited Ian. I mean, really excited.

My only suggestion at this point would be to make the RBs have an impact on the QB's PA rating. For instance, a great RB would improve the rating slightly, where as a terrible running back would decrease the rating.

It could also be effected by the success of your run game as well.

[CubsNBroncos]

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Jaysus Cutler has to have a mid 90s throwing on the run rating. He throws lasers at all times, with some damn fine accuracy. Anyone remember those lasers to Eddie Royal and Tony Scheffler against the Raiders that first week? Cutler can't be left out of the elite when it comes to throwing on the run.

[CW McGraw]

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I love Mondays.

[94niners]

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Absolutely BRA VO!!


I now officially have one of my Madden Wishlist features in the game:

1. Deep Ball Accuracy: Determines the accuracy on deep passes (streaks, deep posts, etc)
2. Medium Passing Accuracy: Determines the accuracy on medium passes (outs, corners, etc)
3. Short Passing Accuracy: Determines the accuracy on short passes (quick smash, flats, etc)
4. Throw on the Run: Creates a modifier to accuracy when the QB is throwing on the run. Every QB will take some sort of accuracy hit when throwing on the run, but a QB that has a high rating here will take a smaller hit.
5. Play Action: Determines the 'effectiveness' of Play Action for a QB, i.e. how often they can fake out or freeze the defense (which is obviously weighted against the defenders Play Recognition ratings)

[SomeStrangeSin]

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use this new system for juking,trucking,stiff arm,etc while a defender is tackling you mid animation.

[redsfan4life]

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Hopefully next week the defense will get some love. :wink:

[netking23]

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You gotta read, man.

thanks.

i saw that but i guess its just such a big deal to me i was expecting a little more clarification or something more definitive. i'm not trying to be too picky or anything but i believe that the QB scrambling in madden goes against one of the core themes of real life football. i wish i had the statistics of the all the snaps taken in a given season and what % of the time the QB scrambled. i'm guessing its surprisinly small compared to how it is in the game.

all in all i think this was a superb post by ian and great news for the game going forward.

[Casserville]

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Jaysus Cutler has to have a mid 90s throwing on the run rating. He throws lasers at all times, with some damn fine accuracy. Anyone remember those lasers to Eddie Royal and Tony Scheffler against the Raiders that first week? Cutler can't be left out of the elite when it comes to throwing on the run.

I agree.. Jay Cutler's throw on the run gotta be high.. But i gotta agree, this is the best update to date. Game changer...Madden 10 is gonna be rock solid. Can't wait for more updates..
Thanks Ian and Co..

[xX CASCABEL Xx]

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Sounds good, I hope this helps to eliminate the RC...