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Quote: Originally Posted by sirwoodz

so let me get this straight - a guy breaks the record for saves in a year, has had 4 straight 40+ save seasons, has pitched in 450 innings, and has struck out (brace yourself) almost 590 batters...shouldn't be the highest rated pitcher in the game? is not the better than mariano rivera? uhhh okay. I'll be on that little place called planet earth if you all need me.

Do you really honestly believe that Saves is the tell all stat for quality pitcher or relief pitchers at that?

Basically you are saying that he is better than every other closer because he had more opportunities even though he has a higher whip, fewer k's per 9 and a higher ERA than others. Had those guys had his opportunities, there is a very good chance they would have done more.

Example from his record breaking save:
http://www.faniq.com/blog/Francisco-...ken-Blog-11808

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In Thursday night's game between the Angels and Mariners, Francisco Rodriguez made history. But that's not all he did. While tying Bobby Thigpen's record for most saves in a single season, Rodriguez showed everyone why the save stat is broken, and shouldn't be the stat by which closers are measured. When K-Rod entered the game, there were runners on 1st and 2nd. Rodriguez pitched one inning, allowed one of those runners to score, gave up 2 hits, and was arguably a main reason the game was ever in question at all. Should a closer get credit for "saving" the game, when they are part of the reason the game NEEDS saving? What about situations when the game is never even in jeopardy at all? K-Rod entered this game with a 4-run lead, with 3 outs left