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  • JonahFalcon
    Banned
    • Jan 2007
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    Bill Abner got permission to speak from Sony - posts impressions

    Got the green light from Sony PR so I can talk about it a bit. I have played parts of about 5 games so far and 3 complete games, testing stu...


    Got the green light from Sony PR so I can talk about it a bit.

    I have played parts of about 5 games so far and 3 complete games, testing stuff out, etc.

    This is obviously a polished looking game and if you're a fan of The Show then you're set -- in many ways this plays like a tweaked version of '08. It seems more like a refinement so far, and nothing has jumped out and made me say, "Whoa that was not in last year's game."

    This is what happens when your game from the previous year is that good. It starts to get hard to find the obvious fixes and enhancements.

    And to be clear: I love The Show '08. Love it. But I'm still digging and uncovering what's really new. That's going to take time -- as again I have only fiddled with Exhibition games.

    I just finished a 3-2 win for the Reds over Washington and I won on a catcher error throwing on a dropped 3rd strike. Catcher heaved it into RF and I scored the game winner. Hilarious. Gotta love those Nats.

    Two things that jump out that we should keep an eye on:

    Doubles. Yes, you can hit doubles this year -- more than last year I'd say. But the whole "down the baseline issue" is still there. Look, if my batter laces a frozen rope over the 3rd base bag, unless there is a OF shift on, I better be standing on 2nd base unless I'm Greg Luzinski. I still see way too many singles on hits that LOOK like they should be doubles when they are first hit. And again, I hit three doubles last game so it's not like it's all singles all the time -- far from it. But the visual indicator I see when playing doesn't always add up. It's a balancing act I'm sure. I mean you don't want teams hitting 6...7 doubles per game, but just know going in that this is not 100% fixed.

    A big issue?

    No, not as much as last year because there are more gappers and more hits down the line tend to reach the wall -- but many of them seem to die when they hit the grass.

    OK, next is the CPU sliders. I dunno if they are working or if they are they are doing SUBTLE changes to the formula. Case in point: CPU pitch control. I played the last game, just to see what would happen, with CPU Throw Strikes at zero. All the way to the left. The SP for the Nats ended up walking me 1 time (a MR issues one, too) and for the game the SP threw strikes 82% of the time. That's with Throw Strikes at 0? And I take a LOT of pitches. Granted I still swing at some I shouldn't but it even out in the end -- I took a fair number of pitches down the pipe.

    Just something else to keep in mind when you get the game next week.

    We'll do some franchise stuff tomorrow, but for now I want to play a game at Wrigley.

    On the plus side, I walked 3 batters with Volquez -- and I was not trying to walk them. It just sorta happened. AND -- NO HOMERS in that last game against the Nats; I dunno about you, but I love baseball games that allow this to happen.
  • swaldo
    MVP
    • Jul 2002
    • 1268

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    Re: Bill Abner got permission to speak from Sony - posts impressions

    You've got to be kidding me? Another game where sliders don't work?! That's one of the most important sliders in the game - at least for those that want to play a realistic game where balls are thrown. I'm really going to gag if "sliders are backwards" threads start popping up.

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    • Crash Davis
      Banned
      • Jan 2008
      • 1321

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      Re: Bill Abner got permission to speak from Sony - posts impressions

      Cool, that wrap up though isnt very well done in terms of his disapointment of nothing "new". At least he told us he only played exhibition mode, all the improvements are going to be more in RTTS for sure, and some franchise stuff not to mention the obviously cool presentation tools like custom music, new replays and of course the lighting.

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      • Russell_SCEA
        SCEA Community Manager
        • May 2005
        • 4161

        #4
        Re: Bill Abner got permission to speak from Sony - posts impressions

        Originally posted by swaldo
        You've got to be kidding me? Another game where sliders don't work?! That's one of the most important sliders in the game - at least for those that want to play a realistic game where balls are thrown. I'm really going to gag if "sliders are backwards" threads start popping up.
        The sliders do work they wore torn out and redone from scratch B MA spent a ton of time working on them.

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        • ARMORALLL
          Rookie
          • Jun 2008
          • 413

          #5
          Re: Bill Abner got permission to speak from Sony - posts impressions

          Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
          The sliders do work they wore torn out and redone from scratch B MA spent a ton of time working on them.
          Awsome!!! This was number 1 on my wishlist!

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          • Mr.Wednesday
            The Magic is back
            • Feb 2007
            • 1927

            #6
            Re: Bill Abner got permission to speak from Sony - posts impressions

            Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
            The sliders do work they wore torn out and redone from scratch B MA spent a ton of time working on them.
            I think it plays pretty darn good game of baseball out of the box. I haven't touched one slider. I know everyone is different, but it feels like they tuned it especially for me.
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            • Knight165
              *ll St*r
              • Feb 2003
              • 24964

              #7
              Re: Bill Abner got permission to speak from Sony - posts impressions

              ...and heck...I was getting enough doubles both down the line AND in the gaps just from the demo.

              ...and I played more than "PARTS of five game" with that!:wink:

              M.K.
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              • EnigmaNemesis
                Animal Liberation
                • Apr 2006
                • 12216

                #8
                Re: Bill Abner got permission to speak from Sony - posts impressions

                Originally posted by Knight165
                ...and heck...I was getting enough doubles both down the line AND in the gaps just from the demo.

                ...and I played more than "PARTS of five game" with that!:wink:

                M.K.
                Knight165

                Agreed. Just today I laced one down the line, as well as the CPU did to me. Then deleted the demo and now cant wait for Tuesday.
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                • Knight165
                  *ll St*r
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 24964

                  #9
                  Re: Bill Abner got permission to speak from Sony - posts impressions

                  Yes..

                  ...and I have buku respect for you Bill.....I think you can dig a little deeper than parts of five...can't you?

                  M.K.
                  Knight165
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                  • swaldo
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 1268

                    #10
                    Re: Bill Abner got permission to speak from Sony - posts impressions

                    Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
                    The sliders do work they wore torn out and redone from scratch B MA spent a ton of time working on them.
                    Ok....any idea what Bill may have been doing wrong?

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                    • EnigmaNemesis
                      Animal Liberation
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 12216

                      #11
                      Re: Bill Abner got permission to speak from Sony - posts impressions

                      I just don't understand how he doesn't notice much difference. I noticed it right away with the demo. Huge differences in the pitcher/batter match-ups. The hitting engine, the ball physics, the fielding, the lighting, graphics, AI, routes to the ball etc.

                      Must not be as hardcore into 08 like he thought he was.
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                      • Russell_SCEA
                        SCEA Community Manager
                        • May 2005
                        • 4161

                        #12
                        Re: Bill Abner got permission to speak from Sony - posts impressions

                        Originally posted by swaldo
                        Ok....any idea what Bill may have been doing wrong?

                        Well its not a matter of wrong or anything there are a couple of things to look at.

                        1. He only played one game after moving the slider to 0.

                        Look at the sample size one game not ten just one secondly he might not know how the sliders work in our game, because a lot of people have a misconception of what sliders do in our title.

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                        • brunnoce
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                          • Mar 2005
                          • 4133

                          #13
                          Re: Bill Abner got permission to speak from Sony - posts impressions

                          Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
                          The sliders do work they wore torn out and redone from scratch B MA spent a ton of time working on them.
                          unless the retail game(which i dont have) is completly diferent from the demo i can surely confirm russel...
                          and btw walks are NO issue for me in the demo.. ive had instances where kazmir walked me 5 times in 4 inngs pitched...including a run forced on a walk...
                          so i really dont know what to think... i just cant belive the full game is worst than the demo.
                          Last edited by brunnoce; 02-27-2009, 09:32 PM.
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                          • EnigmaNemesis
                            Animal Liberation
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 12216

                            #14
                            Re: Bill Abner got permission to speak from Sony - posts impressions

                            Originally posted by brunnoce
                            unless the reatil game(which i dont have) is completly diferent from the demo i can surely confirm russel...
                            and btw walks are NO issue for me in the demo.. ive had instances where kazmir walked me 5 times in 4 inngs pitches...including a run forced on a walk...
                            so i really dont know what to think... i just cant belive the full game is worst than the demo.
                            I would not take too much into the author's "test".

                            Bits of 5 games, and 3 complete games is hardly a test.
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                            • brunnoce
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                              • Mar 2005
                              • 4133

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                              Re: Bill Abner got permission to speak from Sony - posts impressions

                              Originally posted by Knight165
                              ...and heck...I was getting enough doubles both down the line AND in the gaps just from the demo.

                              ...and I played more than "PARTS of five game" with that!:wink:

                              M.K.
                              Knight165
                              same here knight...
                              when i read that mini review i was like WTF?!?!?
                              either is the full version tweaked to worst or the reviewer has a diferent perception of baseball than me,cause im surely getting doubles every possible way..specially on balls that never get to the wall when its a fast runner like crawford or upton.
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