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  • Netherscourge
    MVP
    • Jul 2008
    • 1163

    #1

    Why not incorporate player personalities? Egos, Happiness, Locker Room Morale...

    Whether the NFL wants to admit it or not, guys like T.O. and Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson are PART of the NFL's success.

    I think EA should incorporate all the drama the goes along with the NFL, not just boring player statistics and simming.

    Why not have "ego" and "happiness" ratings for players?

    So when guys like T.O. don't get a pass in their direction during a game, the following week their catching ability declines and they have a greater chance of dropping passes. And they also complain in the newspaper.

    Or if Peyton Manning gets sacked too much, you see him yelling at his offensive lineman on the sidelines and then you'll see something in the newspaper in franchise mode where during the week his agent demands a trade or something.

    Or a player with a cheap contract who's having multiple Pro Bowl seasons starts complaining about not making enough money and he demands a trade and maybe even refuses to play. Get's fined and everything else.

    Or even better - have a "locker room morale" rating, when a couple disgruntled players can bring down an entire team's skill ratings when they are all unhappy and grumbling.


    Madden focuses too much on stats and simming - but it completely lacks personality, especially in Franchise Mode. And whether the NFL wants to admit it or not, it IS "in the game".

    And I don't just mean slapping the ratings on the player and letting it "sim" the drama... It would be cool to actually SEE the drama during the game, like pouting players... remember T.O. tapping McNabb on the shoulder on the sidelines while stomping around back and forth a couple years ago?

    These guys in the NFL are human beings - I know everyone is all geeked up on simming and stats, but you can't ignore personalities, whether they are positive or negative.
  • FadeEmAll
    Banned
    • Dec 2008
    • 880

    #2
    Re: Why not incorporate player personalities? Egos, Happiness, Locker Room Morale...

    This is an excellent post, and represents another area of gaming that 2k has that Madden doesn't. I would love to see all this in the gaming, but I bet we're going to get the NFLPA response "The NFL doesn't allow it"

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    • salbowski
      Banned
      • Aug 2008
      • 928

      #3
      Re: Why not incorporate player personalities? Egos, Happiness, Locker Room Morale...

      I totally agree with the op.... this would bring some character to franchise mode... it could be taken further too:

      Unhappy player

      Say T.O isn't happy with only catching 15 catches by week 5, he could kick up a fuss and ask for a trade... this will obviously decrease his trade value so a team might get him for a 4/5th round pick but the new team is also taking on the fact that he could do the same to them as well as his salary.

      Team mates dislike eachother

      Two players with similar personality types might dislike each other and so you have to pick which one you'd like to keep (this could be based on ability, age, salary, position....).

      Draft

      Player personality would add an extra dimension to the player analysis... do you draft the 85 wr who is temperamental (and risk his temper tantrums for the rest of his career or till he asks for a trade) or the 81 wr who is a blue collar guy (gonna work hard and probably stay with you his entire career).

      Im sure you guys can come up with more ideas....

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      • FadeEmAll
        Banned
        • Dec 2008
        • 880

        #4
        Re: Why not incorporate player personalities? Egos, Happiness, Locker Room Morale...

        Well they stated earlier that don't want NFL players getting into trouble on video games so I"m sure that extends to having bad attitudes. LOL

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        • swill43507
          Banned
          • Aug 2003
          • 826

          #5
          Re: Why not incorporate player personalities? Egos, Happiness, Locker Room Morale...

          Originally posted by FadeEmAll
          Well they stated earlier that don't want NFL players getting into trouble on video games so I"m sure that extends to having bad attitudes. LOL
          Yeah,..the NFL is not going to allow "T.O. Egos" in video games because they are very image focused.

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          • Vikes1
            Proctor, MN. Go Rails!
            • May 2008
            • 4102

            #6
            Re: Why not incorporate player personalities? Egos, Happiness, Locker Room Morale...

            I like this idea too.

            It would be interesting to have the players have personalities. The more life-like the players can be made, the better.

            I know the NFL is pretty sensitive about it's image...but having a player in Madden showing displeasure about playing time ect, I'd think isn't going too far. [of course it doesn't matter what I think.]

            Speaking of the newspaper articles...I hope they make their return for '10'. I think they add a nice touch of depth to franchise mode.
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            • afalcons
              Rookie
              • Feb 2005
              • 27

              #7
              Re: Why not incorporate player personalities? Egos, Happiness, Locker Room Morale...

              i like it too

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              • Exonerated
                MVP
                • Dec 2007
                • 4899

                #8
                Re: Why not incorporate player personalities? Egos, Happiness, Locker Room Morale...

                Its a matter of when, not why not?

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                • stux
                  Banned
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 1044

                  #9
                  Re: Why not incorporate player personalities? Egos, Happiness, Locker Room Morale...

                  This has been brought up several times in the last few years and never been answered that I have seen.

                  I believe the reason for this is that the NFL wouldn't like it and would allow it to happen.

                  Look what happened to the TV show that was based on the NFL.

                  I don't think they even want to say that they aren't allowed to because THAT would make the NFL look bad.

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                  • Segagendude
                    Banned
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 7940

                    #10
                    Re: Why not incorporate player personalities? Egos, Happiness, Locker Room Morale...

                    The only thing CLOSE to this so far is current gen Madden, and it's only an email voicing frustration from a player.
                    Example: "I'm the supposed leader of this team, why am I not starting?"
                    Or, "Thanks for choosing me as captain.You made the right choice, and I'll prove it to you".

                    But they still play hard on the field.......

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                    • Sanchez_Mareno
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 3485

                      #11
                      Re: Why not incorporate player personalities? Egos, Happiness, Locker Room Morale...

                      Good idea but it wont happen simply because any player that is made to complain on the game will complain about abuse of likeness or some such
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                      • BayAreaRYder226
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 281

                        #12
                        Re: Why not incorporate player personalities? Egos, Happiness, Locker Room Morale...

                        I don't know if dropping ratings because of morale is such a great idea, but I do want some sort of effect.

                        Adding personality to Franchise mode would be a definite improvement

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                        • Glorious Arc
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 1875

                          #13
                          Re: Why not incorporate player personalities? Egos, Happiness, Locker Room Morale...

                          Personalities were in Head Coach but they were poorly implemented because they only really had the impact when you were trying to resign a player(they wanted more/less money). There might have been more to it but I didnt see anything more then that.

                          I would like to see more of this implemented into the madden on a larger scale.

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                          • hollerback04
                            Rookie
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 16

                            #14
                            Re: Why not incorporate player personalities? Egos, Happiness, Locker Room Morale...

                            this is a great thread but you can take even one step further. having player personalities actually effect how your team plays. for example team chemistry. you have a team like dallas with all there talent no one gets along so they never go deep in the playoffs. but then you have the patriots and they are a talented group but they play unselfish so the win even when they are not at full strength. this would go along way in shaping how you build your team during franchise mode and who you bring to that squad. then that raises the importance of who you draft, trade for, and release.

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                            • Cryolemon
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 1669

                              #15
                              Re: Why not incorporate player personalities? Egos, Happiness, Locker Room Morale...

                              Originally posted by Exonerated
                              Its a matter of when, not why not?
                              I doubt it, since like has been said, the NFL won't allow it.

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