Fixing Fighting in NHL 2010: Fight Night on Ice

[wsu_gb23]

Re: Fixing Fighting in NHL 2010: Fight Night on Ice

I just feel it's the last aspect of the game that needs improved. While it would be nice if it really had an effect on team momentum and such. As it is though, it doesn't really mean anything in regards to the game, thus isn't that important to me.

I would rather see Teammate AI, Dynasty Depth, and other aspects of the game improved first.

I agree with this...what's so special about fighting in hockey? They actually look like idiots in real life when they fight. Like a bunch of over-paid spoiled kids.....

EA should remain focused on the gameplay and presentation aspects for 2010....

[LKelley998]

I want the ability to use the stick as a weapon. Can you imagine how awesome it would be to put a guy out for the season with a well-placed throat gash?

It's a video game and it's supposed to be fun. I don't know about the rest of you, but taking an occasional break from on ice back-and-forth play in order to participate in a vicious goon-instigated brawl or nasty stick-slashing is my idea of fun.

[LP]

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I want the ability to use the stick as a weapon. Can you imagine how awesome it would be to put a guy out for the season with a well-placed throat gash?

It's a video game and it's supposed to be fun. I don't know about the rest of you, but taking an occasional break from on ice back-and-forth play in order to participate in a vicious goon-instigated brawl or nasty stick-slashing is my idea of fun.

This is exactly the kind of thing that will never be in an NHL game. Not to mention this is the kind of post people will use in support of their argument against fighting.

[IBYCFOTA]

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This is exactly the kind of thing that will never be in an NHL game. Not to mention this is the kind of post people will use in support of their argument against fighting.

Agreed. It's almost not worth responding to, you will never see this in a hockey game, and for good reason.

[Kingfish]

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I want the ability to use the stick as a weapon. Can you imagine how awesome it would be to put a guy out for the season with a well-placed throat gash?

It's a video game and it's supposed to be fun. I don't know about the rest of you, but taking an occasional break from on ice back-and-forth play in order to participate in a vicious goon-instigated brawl or nasty stick-slashing is my idea of fun.

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[SabresKings3623]

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Now imagine...you are the sniper for your team, lets say, 6'1 and maybe 200lbs. You release a PERFECT shot and JUST as your arms go up to celebrate with the red light...next thing you feel is the cold ice on your cheek mixed with warm blood gushing from the cut over your eye.

You've been cheap-shot'd by the opposing teams enforcer type...he's 6'4 230lbs and had about 400 pim last season. He is standing over you...glaring down and smiling his toothless grin at you.

Yeah, he is going to get maybe 5 + a game for it but...you will most likely be looking for him every time he skates out on the ice the next 4+ times you play this team.

So, this story can play out one of two ways. The linesman skates over and escorts him off the ice to the cheers/boos of the crowd and two team-mates help YOU to the locker room for 40+ stitches and prolly a concussion...why did that goon do this? Cause this is YOUR team and you think fighting is juvenile and you refuse to allow your Coach/GM to have any enforcers on the bench with you!

So, lets see how that plays out in REAL hockey...

Because Marty McSorely IS skating out there with you Wayne, Bob Probert simply skates over and bumps you after your goal, calling your mom a name that you'll need to lookup when you get back to the lockeroom...and even this slight contact with you STILL draws a ruckus between the teams tough guys.

The enforcer is there...its reality...until they remove fighting all together, its there and I for one WANT it in the game. I want it cause its a SIMULATION of real hockey to me(and a lot of others too I bet).

Fighting actually helps calm the game down and keeps it even keeled by giving those who need it, an outlet that is legal(in the terms of the game) and that has proper repercussions.

You know, life should be so simple.

This.

[tyler289]

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Without Donald Brashear and Matt Bradley, Alex Ovechkin would probably be in the hospital from all the cheap shots he'd take from frustrated players.

Enforcers are still in the game and fighting is still huge. The Caps-Flyers preseason game had I think 3.

I want to see a tie-up in the fighting system, like for example, one player grabs the other one in the fight and they fall to the ground, like Jay Beagle did to Downie in the preseason game. I feel like the players usually fall down to the ice anyways.

[complete09]

I have just read everyones response, I must say the many of you must spend way to much time playing video games to say something as rediculous as fighting shouldnt be in hockey its for neandorthals, and that fighting will be taken out... how many of you actually played ice hockey and no i dont mean on xbox or playstation.... if there isnt fighting to get rid of aggression what do you think happens? hockey is unlike many other sports and one of the most important parts of hockey is how you ccan control your apponent not just physically but mentally... what do you think fighting is ? why do you think guys like domie and wade belak are in the nhl..... tell you one thing i have seen far better players in the juniors.... to say comments that you guys make about something you must not know anything about is the reason why i speant wasting my time hopefully it will get through to one of you nerds

[ferriscj24]

They could easily fix this issue in 09 by simply releasing another patch which fixes the amount of health lost after a punch. Instead of one punch taking your health down 80-90%, make it 5-15% or so. No need to revamp the entire fighting engine. Just take down the damage in a patch. Seems like an easy fix for EA to me...

[JR360]

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Um, I've been watching hockey since Jacques Plante played for the Canadiens, and I also think fighting is ridiculous, both in real hockey and in hockey video games. And in case you didn't notice, it is slowly being pushed out of hockey.

On top of that, fighting in real hockey is borne out of emotion in the moment. So there's at least some merit or sense to it. But what's video hockey fighting borne out of? Some jacked-up video geek getting their jollies by playing "Punch the virtual person in the face!"

Whoopie, yeah, fun stuff. Really worth defending.

I couldn't care less about fighting in a hockey video game, but the stats say that fighting is on the rise again:

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2008/10/27/brophy_fighting/

[MC Fatigue]

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A proper fighting engine for the NHL seems to easy, and I don't see any reason they can't make it realistic.

The two players drop their gloves and either circle a bit before clinching, or they immediately grab each other.

Once they're clinched, you've got two buttons. Punch and Clinch.

You either try to clinch them and avoid them hitting you, and wait for an opening, or you pound the punch button and your guys swings for the fences; never letting up the hold with the other arm.

Then, eventually one of the guys slips, and the other gets dragged down with him and the refs step in.

[apigula]

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As a whole the fighting has come a long way (2000 for example, plain horrible). This said though there are a few changes that could be made.
I like the suggestion earlier referring to the "Chronicles of Riddick" style of fighting, with each joystick controlling each hand.
But, basic fight science has to be incorporated.
Say a giant (Chara, Boogard) is squaring off with a smaller scrapper (Avery, otherwise), if the bigger guy grabs on chances are the smaller guy wont connect nearly as much.
Some other things that are just pet peeves are the inability to circle in the direction you choose (actually an advantage if used right), and the way the fights start (how about a little chirping instead of a cross check to the back?).
Finally, it may have been discussed before, but how about being able to fight whoever you want. Crosby dropped in juniors, even Yzerman had some scraps in his career. In the real game you are held accountable for your reactions regardless of who you are. I know it sounds heinous, but what about making a player fight? Somehow make it so you can fight them, if they don't swing it's a two minute for roughing and the attacker gets a five.

I'm sure there's more but they've slipped my mind. Time to play anyways, Wings are raping dynasty mode, as usual.

[hockey_crazed]

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Not many NHL fights conclude in knockout blows like the videogame

so true, either of you always getting knocked out no matter what? its a little weird thats definitly a fixer.

[Fiddy]

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so much more important things to fix before the fighting IMO..

[hockey_crazed]

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true, fighting is at the bottom of the list of things that need fixing. for instance you can score every time doing some moves like turning sharp onto your back hand and skate unitill the goalie is in the center of the net the take a slap shot and it goes in every time i know goalies can stop it. also quick one times in the slot it goes in every time witch it does quite allot in real life too but the move doesnt work every time like in the game. so fighting should be fixed in a couple years afte the main issues are delt with. :P