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Quote: Originally Posted by spankdatazz22

The key problem I see w/your suggestions is the over-dependence on the community making the game into NFL-lite. I don't see how it benefits 2K in the least to base the appeal of their game on how much it can be molded into an ugly cousin of the NFL. For the person out there that has to have the NFL teams and players, it would simply make better sense to purchase Madden. I've said many times people underestimate the difficulty in trying to develop a non-licensed football game because of how the NFL is synonymous with pro football. It think it's safe to say that the vast majority of people that would purchase the game aren't going to want to spend their first eight hours of the game customizing it to look/feel a certain way. And it's extremely wishful thinking to think some community standard will eventually evolve and people would have the 2K NFL game they desire. While APF2K8 was far too restrictive and needed more customization options, 2K was right in trying to make a game that could stand on it's own. Because I would think most people would want to pick and play a game they purchased; not spend hours/days scouring the internet for the person that happened to create the best Buffalo Bills logo, or who has the most exact 49ers roster. Only the ultra-hardcore are going to do that, and catering the game to that extremely small and finicky demographic would doom it to failure. As if the game wouldn't have enough obtacles to overcome.

As much as I want to agree with you my friend, the points you make are logical and make sense.

But when it comes to some 2k fans no matter how much Madden improves or even if Madden ends up great. It will be a hated game by them and they would rather re-create the NFL in a generic game from 2k just because 2k made it.

Basically a customizable game is for those loyal fans who refuse to purchase EA sports games no matter what. That is reason these threads keep popping up and it's also the reason people keep hope of another 2k football game with customizations. They want a NFL by 2ksports and not EA, so they'd rather recreate the NFL in a 2k game. It's the who basis of the request. No one wants to feel forced to by Madden because it's the only choice. And they also don't care if it's bad or good they don't want it because EA made it.

So every year we will get these hope threads until that license has expired. Problem is 2ksports has fallen off thanks to Take-Two. If any other publisher knew the amount of request for these titles, and knew the need for it to satisfy the consumer they would have already put it into development. I'm pretty sure Visual Concepts are shaking their heads constantly at these threads not because they are laughing at us or the community but because TT won't lift a finger or a budget to even try. They've already waved the white flag to NFL and have put Visual Concepts in a corner.