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  • da ThRONe
    Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
    • Mar 2009
    • 8528

    #76
    Re: Comparison Vid between Madden 10's new running animations and All Pro 2k8

    Originally posted by NYyankz225
    Saying acceleration is how long it takes to reach top speed is silly because acceleration is not measured in time. It's the rate of change of velocity with RESPECT to time. IE meters per second. And since acceleration is a vector you could be staying the same speed and simply be changing direction and your acceleration would change which again has nothing to do with top speed.
    1st Einstein i said acceleration is the distance it takes to reach top speed.

    2nd Its great you got a B+ in physics but Im talking football and video games on top of that. That was a football explanation of acceleration!
    You looking at the Chair MAN!

    Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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    • Tyrant8RDFL
      MVP
      • Feb 2004
      • 3563

      #77
      Re: Comparison Vid between Madden 10's new running animations and All Pro 2k8

      I can understand your view points on the player planting when changing direction. I just hope if they do really focus on this they understand than certain change of direction angles doesn't require for a player to plant his foot.

      Lets use a clock as a example to set the degrees of which the player is turning from one point to another.

      A runner is heading towards 12 o'clock and decided to turn towards 1 o'clock, do You think he needs to plant his foot in order to accomplish this? I say no

      A runner is heading towards 12 o'clock and decided to turn towards 2 o'clock, do You think he needs to plant his foot in order to accomplish this? I say Slightly.

      A runner is heading towards 12 o'clock and decided to turn towards 3 o'clock, do You think he needs to plant his foot in order to accomplish this? Absolutely, and the demonstration of what Emmitt Smith did in the Video was perfect for this situation.

      I don't want it that for every slight change of direction the player is planting. That isn't realistic, so I hope if they do make adjustments in making realistic player running animations, that they pay very good attention to when a player really has to plant or stutter step.
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      • BigTigLSU
        H*p H*p 4 H*rs*m*n
        • Sep 2002
        • 6506

        #78
        Re: Comparison Vid between Madden 10's new running animations and All Pro 2k8

        You plant on any change of direction but there are different levels for what kind of turn you are making... the sharper the turn more you plant.... human beings to change direction with out planting their foot in some fashion plus players dont move in a circular motion while in prusuit or running the ball its a wasted motion...
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        • icomb1ne
          Rookie
          • Jun 2008
          • 486

          #79
          Re: Comparison Vid between Madden 10's new running animations and All Pro 2k8

          I just tried turning and all that stuff in AP 2k8 and the RBs don't lean when they turn. At full speed they are always standing straight up and just turn. Also they don't plant like they do while not sprinting. Although I'm not sure I see many RBs make wide turns at full speed in real life. They normally do a bunch of cuts like in the video.
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          • Vikes1
            Proctor, MN. Go Rails!
            • May 2008
            • 4102

            #80
            Re: Comparison Vid between Madden 10's new running animations and All Pro 2k8

            I'm just glad Ian is taking notice of the running/cutting animations of 2K8. They do look quite realistic. That slip animation looked especially nice.

            Thanks Derrville, for bring this to everyones attention.
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            • Derrville
              Banned
              • Sep 2008
              • 1623

              #81
              Re: Comparison Vid between Madden 10's new running animations and All Pro 2k8

              Originally posted by Vikes1
              I'm just glad Ian is taking notice of the running/cutting animations of 2K8. They do look quite realistic. That slip animation looked especially nice.

              Thanks Derrville, for bring this to everyones attention.
              No problem my good man

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              • tcp
                Rookie
                • Jul 2007
                • 42

                #82
                Re: Comparison Vid between Madden 10's new running animations and All Pro 2k8

                Originally posted by da ThRONe
                1st Einstein i said acceleration is the distance it takes to reach top speed.
                Erm, LOL.

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                • grunt
                  Banned
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 9527

                  #83
                  Re: Comparison Vid between Madden 10's new running animations and All Pro 2k8

                  Originally posted by icomb1ne
                  I just tried turning and all that stuff in AP 2k8 and the RBs don't lean when they turn. At full speed they are always standing straight up and just turn. Also they don't plant like they do while not sprinting. Although I'm not sure I see many RBs make wide turns at full speed in real life. They normally do a bunch of cuts like in the video.
                  which runner back did you use? Different running backs have they own attributes.

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                  • likesbacon
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 58

                    #84
                    Re: Comparison Vid between Madden 10's new running animations and All Pro 2k8

                    Originally posted by Derrville
                    No problem my good man
                    Ditto. From someone that wants a great game football game but can't make posts like this, keep this stuff up. Keep challenging the Madden team, Ian has shown that hes willing to take them on.

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                    • DirtyJerz32
                      All Star
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 7617

                      #85
                      Re: Comparison Vid between Madden 10's new running animations and All Pro 2k8

                      I feel like I have been in this thread before. The same thing over and over and over and over and over. I could go on. Seriously can we please stop with these Madden vs. 2K comparisons! It's not going to be resolved. EVER!

                      This is another waste of time thread. I started watching the vid and YES it's a great vid of animations between Madden and 2k. But, that vid is showing Madden 10 running in circles. Until you see M10 running zig zags up and down the field you CAN NOT compare the two.

                      AP does THE best job at animations and the overall feel of running, juking, foot planting that I have ever seen. BUT, unless you show a vid of AP players running in circles then we CAN NOT compare the two.

                      This thread is going NO WHERE fast! Can we please put an end to the maddness.

                      Speaking of Maddness... Did anyone see the FSU v. Wis & OSU v. Siena games? WOW! I love MM. That stands for March Madness not Madden Mania.

                      Sorry got off track.

                      I have an idea. Mods please close this before it gets ugly.
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                      • stiffarmleft
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 1986

                        #86
                        Re: Comparison Vid between Madden 10's new running animations and All Pro 2k8

                        Originally posted by DirtyJerz32
                        I feel like I have been in this thread before. The same thing over and over and over and over and over. I could go on. Seriously can we please stop with these Madden vs. 2K comparisons! It's not going to be resolved. EVER!

                        This is another waste of time thread. I started watching the vid and YES it's a great vid of animations between Madden and 2k. But, that vid is showing Madden 10 running in circles. Until you see M10 running zig zags up and down the field you CAN NOT compare the two.

                        AP does THE best job at animations and the overall feel of running, juking, foot planting that I have ever seen. BUT, unless you show a vid of AP players running in circles then we CAN NOT compare the two.

                        This thread is going NO WHERE fast! Can we please put an end to the maddness.

                        Speaking of Maddness... Did anyone see the FSU v. Wis & OSU v. Siena games? WOW! I love MM. That stands for March Madness not Madden Mania.

                        Sorry got off track.

                        I have an idea. Mods please close this before it gets ugly.
                        This thread was civil and informative IMO, you probably should read through it before you chime in. I think the Mods know when and when not to lock threads.

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                        • Derrville
                          Banned
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 1623

                          #87
                          Re: Comparison Vid between Madden 10's new running animations and All Pro 2k8

                          Originally posted by stiffarmleft
                          This thread was civil and informative IMO, you probably should read through it before you chime in. I think the Mods know when and when not to lock threads.
                          Seriously, Ian commented on it in his twitter, i really wish that guy would have read thru the thread before he commented.

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                          • Pappy Knuckles
                            LORDTHUNDERBIRD
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 15966

                            #88
                            Re: Comparison Vid between Madden 10's new running animations and All Pro 2k8

                            1. Good video. 2K has the best animations.

                            2. Anyone who says 2K football is stiff just hasn't played it enough. You can't run around crazily tapping the button because you have to slow down to set stuff up. How you move the stick is critical. When I play APF it feels like football to me. Ricky Waters doesn't run like Emmitt, and Emmitt doesn't run like Gale Sayers. You can definitely feel the difference. The players in APF have a "weight" that I'd like to see in Madden.

                            3. When we're talking football and I hear the term acceleration, I'm thinking how quickly a guy reaches top speed. The mini debate on this was pretty funny.

                            4. I've read through this whole thread and it's been pretty civil. It's good stuff like this continues to get discussed because the developers need to know what we want.

                            5. Developers underestimate the average gamer. If they make it realistic and it's a good game, people will play it. Arcade games have their place, but the majority of NFL fans want their games to be as true-to-life as possible. No need to cater to the Madden Nation types. If they're truly nice they'll adapt to a sim. If not they'll move on to Halo or cheating in checkers.

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                            • blvdboi22
                              Rookie
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 35

                              #89
                              Re: Comparison Vid between Madden 10's new running animations and All Pro 2k8

                              People making threads like this is the only way the game is going to change so keeping making these treads

                              Competition Will make Madden better till that happens madden wont be good

                              Till we see another Football game with the real nfl logos and everything

                              Madden wont be good

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                              • Pared
                                Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 39337

                                #90
                                Re: Comparison Vid between Madden 10's new running animations and All Pro 2k8

                                Originally posted by Pappy Knuckles
                                2. Anyone who says 2K football is stiff just hasn't played it enough. You can't run around crazily tapping the button because you have to slow down to set stuff up. How you move the stick is critical. When I play APF it feels like football to me. Ricky Waters doesn't run like Emmitt, and Emmitt doesn't run like Gale Sayers. You can definitely feel the difference. The players in APF have a "weight" that I'd like to see in Madden.
                                You can really see this when people say they prefer the feeling of "control" over Madden.

                                You shouldn't have control 100% of the time with a controller if the physics and motion system is up to snuff.

                                I'm sure that last comment will be dissected but thumbs up to those who actually realize the difference.
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