FB Dive Response Video

[Blazin4QB]

Here Is My Video In Response To The Full Back Dive Animation Improvements

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had to use photobucket because youtube was down

[KANE699]

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I still don't understand why they took out the push the pile animation when you run into the back of players which prevented things like this from happening for the most part, you don't have to step back or left or right, you should also be able to push the people in front of you for more yardage.

Ian made a blog before 08 showing the fixing of mario running, I was really confused that when 09 came out they just took this fix out completely.

[Blazin4QB]

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I still don't understand why they took out the push the pile animation when you run into the back of players which prevented things like this from happening for the most part, you don't have to step back or left or right, you should also be able to push the people in front of you for more yardage.

Ian made a blog before 08 showing the fixing of mario running, I was really confused that when 09 came out they just took this fix out completely.

yea i remeber it being in Madden 08 but the problem to me was you rarely seen the animation but it was a good one that shouldnt have been removed......hopefully i can help get things fixed:wink:

[TDogg09]

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hopefully i can help get things fixed:wink:

You've done a great job so far.

[KANE699]

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yea i remeber it being in Madden 08 but the problem to me was you rarely seen the animation but it was a good one that shouldnt have been removed......hopefully i can help get things fixed:wink:

That's weird everytime I ran up the middle I saw it(near the goal line mostly) I thought it was great, combine this with better ol/dl actions and it should be great.

[icomb1ne]

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I still don't understand why they took out the push the pile animation when you run into the back of players which prevented things like this from happening for the most part, you don't have to step back or left or right, you should also be able to push the people in front of you for more yardage.

Ian made a blog before 08 showing the fixing of mario running, I was really confused that when 09 came out they just took this fix out completely.

Ya, why DID they take that out?!?!

[wordtobigbird]

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kudos to you. this is perfect. madden needs a collision detection improvement with the RBs.

[tyler289]

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Nice job. If they can make it so that when you hit the line and there's no hole, you're forced to hesitate/bounce it outside. That would allow outside defenders close in.

[Glorious Arc]

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great post. I remember old madden had you run into the linemen you would stop and all that. I think they did this because they wanted players to have more "Control" but it just gave the game a arcade feel to it

[kcarr]

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I am not going to go as far as to say that adding the full back animation didn't do anything to solve the problem. It will probably be a step in the right direction as to balancing the success of the fullback dive and is something that needed to be done. However, I will agree there needs to be more in terms of animations with the runner interacting with teammates around him. The running back needs to slow down and interact with the lineman he bumps into. Also, there needs to be time taken to reach full speed. As it is as soon as the back is free from his linemen he is up to speed and if there aren't tacklers around he is gone. In real life there he has no forward momentum and if tacklers are around he will be able to be stopped right there with very little chance to push forward. If noone is around there should still be time taken to reach top speed.

[wordtobigbird]

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madden. needs. piles.

[seriousluboy83]

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Yea tha crew def. needs to fix this as everyone before me has said "why was the push/bounce outside of the pile taken out in the first place"...dont kno exactly what they called it but yea it neva shoulda been taken out in the first place....

[zippity]

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Great video and post. I would like to hear Ian's response to this and see if this can be fixed.

[Blazin4QB]

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I am not going to go as far as to say that adding the full back animation didn't do anything to solve the problem. It will probably be a step in the right direction as to balancing the success of the fullback dive and is something that needed to be done. However, I will agree there needs to be more in terms of animations with the runner interacting with teammates around him. The running back needs to slow down and interact with the lineman he bumps into. Also, there needs to be time taken to reach full speed. As it is as soon as the back is free from his linemen he is up to speed and if there aren't tacklers around he is gone. In real life there he has no forward momentum and if tacklers are around he will be able to be stopped right there with very little chance to push forward. If noone is around there should still be time taken to reach top speed.

You Say: "I am not going to go as far as to say that adding the full back animation didn't do anything to solve the problem"

Then You Say: "However, I will agree there needs to be more in terms of animations with the runner interacting with teammates around him"

im confused buddy

the whole point of the video was and i quote you "there needs to be more in terms of animations with the runner interacting with teammates around him"

[bkrich83]

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You Say: "I am not going to go as far as to say that adding the full back animation didn't do anything to solve the problem"

Then You Say: "However, I will agree there needs to be more in terms of animations with the runner interacting with teammates around him"

im confused buddy

What is there to be confused about? He's saying it's too early to say their animation fix won't help solve the FB dive problem, and he's also saying he agrees with you, that there does need to be more runner interactions with the players around him on a whole, as well.

Seems pretty simple to me.