I understand but just go look at mlb 2k9. Have you seen how bad that gets bashed? We bash whats current and not living up to standards. I dont think 2k5 should be critiqued hard against madden unless its madden 05. Then all bets are off because they are on even playing fields.
We just expect so much more of madden.
And im told mlb 2k9 isnt so bad but could be way better. So people just want to play the best game and dont get stuck as 2k fanboys. Except for football