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  • MMAsterkillah
    Rookie
    • Jan 2009
    • 79

    #136
    Re: NCAA Football 10 Blog: Pocket Protection

    Hopefully recruiting is upgraded. I'm Mizzou and have won 6/8 BCS titles, and still every year I can't come CLOSE to competing with Texas or Miami. I realize the logic of in-state guys and stuff, but my dominance would overcome that in reality.

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    • youALREADYknow
      MVP
      • Aug 2008
      • 3635

      #137
      Re: NCAA Football 10 Blog: Pocket Protection

      Originally posted by MMAsterkillah
      Hopefully recruiting is upgraded. I'm Mizzou and have won 6/8 BCS titles, and still every year I can't come CLOSE to competing with Texas or Miami. I realize the logic of in-state guys and stuff, but my dominance would overcome that in reality.
      You can't recruit against the CPU or other people? If it's against the CPU, then you just might not be good at recruiting. It is far too easy as is to recruit with ANY team from ANY state.

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      • Bigdmo9999
        Banned
        • Jan 2008
        • 5318

        #138
        Re: NCAA Football 10 Blog: Pocket Protection

        Originally posted by OMT
        Right. On PS2 it is for things like missing class and stuff.

        I don't like the way it is done on PS2. First off, to be able to punish players you needed to have "points" which you would set aside for.. but it came out of your training and recruiting. Secondly, to prevent you from cheesing the system by suspending a 3rd string tackle for the season for a minor infraction to drop your NCAA Interest meter, it was always one of your top 10 players that got in trouble... no matter what their discipline was.

        I'd like to bring it back one day, but it needs to be done a lot better than it was originally (NCAA 05 I believe).
        The points system was terrible, I agree. Suspending a player shouldn't cut into your recruiting at the end of the season. If you did bring it back, you could do something where maybe fan participation dropped or something, kind of like what NCAA Basketball has. I don't know how to explain it that much, since NCAA Football doesn't have something that measures fan pride I guess you could call it. I know that when I hear about a good player going down on my favorite team I lose some interest. Although I don't think it would be too dramatic. It would be hard to bring it back and keep it realistic while also punishing you/your team for their imaginary actions.

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        • MMAsterkillah
          Rookie
          • Jan 2009
          • 79

          #139
          Re: NCAA Football 10 Blog: Pocket Protection

          Originally posted by youALREADYknow
          You can't recruit against the CPU or other people? If it's against the CPU, then you just might not be good at recruiting. It is far too easy as is to recruit with ANY team from ANY state.
          12 man online dynasty. when i goto the part where it says interest to begin a season and search for top 5, I have maybe 1/5 of the guys UT has, despite the fact he has never beat me 8 years in. i always get reasonably good classes but it's a little ridiculous that just because they are from texas or miami they get gift classes whether they deserve it or not, while i have to scrape for everything i can get.

          it is fine if it is too easy to recruit, as i sort of agree, but when i win 6/8 national titles, and the last couple i should be held in very high regard among highschool recruits. i just dont think UT and UM should still be considered much better schools than Mizzou when I've had all the success.

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          • the onizzle
            Rookie
            • Jul 2008
            • 116

            #140
            Re: NCAA Football 10 Blog: Pocket Protection

            Originally posted by MMAsterkillah
            12 man online dynasty. when i goto the part where it says interest to begin a season and search for top 5, I have maybe 1/5 of the guys UT has, despite the fact he has never beat me 8 years in. i always get reasonably good classes but it's a little ridiculous that just because they are from texas or miami they get gift classes whether they deserve it or not, while i have to scrape for everything i can get.

            it is fine if it is too easy to recruit, as i sort of agree, but when i win 6/8 national titles, and the last couple i should be held in very high regard among highschool recruits. i just dont think UT and UM should still be considered much better schools than Mizzou when I've had all the success.
            the Longhorns are IN texas, and they're a 6 star program so yes they should have the premier amount of recruits. I would put Mizzou on the same playing field if you have beaten him as much as you say, but you can't expect Texas to just drop off. As much as I hate it, in real life they DO get to cherry pick the exact players they want so I would say that's pretty realistic man.

            Michigan is a different story (sort of) b/c they're not located in one of the big 3 (texas, cali, fla) for recruiting grounds. They're still historically a great program, although I wouldn't call them a top 8 school right now.

            If you're a 6 star program and winning NC's at Mizzou you should be getting quite a few big names. Sometimes the best players aren't always the top 100 in the nation though, just food for thought.

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            • MMAsterkillah
              Rookie
              • Jan 2009
              • 79

              #141
              Re: NCAA Football 10 Blog: Pocket Protection

              I mean my team is rated a 99, but I will start the season with 0 guys who have me #1 among 4-5 star recruits. Texas and UM will have like 10-15 guys who are #1 that are 4-5 stars. I understand why they are so successful, as they are in FL and TX, but I just think the difference is a little bit ridiculous. Surely there would be more talent from out of state interested in my dynasty than going to TX, who has become a 5 star prestige team in my OD.

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              • youALREADYknow
                MVP
                • Aug 2008
                • 3635

                #142
                Re: NCAA Football 10 Blog: Pocket Protection

                Originally posted by MMAsterkillah
                I mean my team is rated a 99, but I will start the season with 0 guys who have me #1 among 4-5 star recruits. Texas and UM will have like 10-15 guys who are #1 that are 4-5 stars. I understand why they are so successful, as they are in FL and TX, but I just think the difference is a little bit ridiculous. Surely there would be more talent from out of state interested in my dynasty than going to TX, who has become a 5 star prestige team in my OD.
                I don't see much of an issue here. The bottom line is that state schools from the major recruiting pipelines have a far easier time than those from non-major recruiting states. The one problem that I do agree with you on is that pre-season recruiting interest needs to be based more upon recent success on the field than it currently does.

                There's no reason that back-to-back national champions shouldn't dominate the pre-season interest in their home state and perhaps a neighboring pipeline state. I don't think you have any argument though for believing you should suddenly be the #1 destination for kids in Texas or Florida just because you won a lot of championships.

                Also, you're a 99 OVR team but you're complaining about recruiting being too hard? You might need to step back and look at it in context.

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                • MMAsterkillah
                  Rookie
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 79

                  #143
                  Re: NCAA Football 10 Blog: Pocket Protection

                  Originally posted by youALREADYknow
                  I don't see much of an issue here. The bottom line is that state schools from the major recruiting pipelines have a far easier time than those from non-major recruiting states. The one problem that I do agree with you on is that pre-season recruiting interest needs to be based more upon recent success on the field than it currently does.

                  There's no reason that back-to-back national champions shouldn't dominate the pre-season interest in their home state and perhaps a neighboring pipeline state. I don't think you have any argument though for believing you should suddenly be the #1 destination for kids in Texas or Florida just because you won a lot of championships.

                  Also, you're a 99 OVR team but you're complaining about recruiting being too hard? You might need to step back and look at it in context.
                  I am not really saying that it is "too hard". I just believe that my recent success should create more interest among top tier recruits. To have 0 4-5 stars interested in my team to start the season is straight up ridiculous. Notre Dame isn't from a state like Texas, FL, or Cali, but they have unreal recruiting classes for some reason. It's not like I won 1 national title, I have literally won 118 out of my last 122 games in this online dynasty (I was drunk one night and lost two in a row lol). Every year I haven't been #1, I have been #2.

                  I spend hours refining my searches and making sure I get the best 3 star guys possible to go with my highly rated prospects that I spend forever to even break the top 10 with. But while I spend tons of time doing this extra work and ultimately getting the best players, my counterparts do little to no work recruiting and have higher RATED classes (stars).

                  I just think that any school should have the availability to become an absolute powerhouse like USC or a prime Miami, or Nebraska back in the day, if everything is done correctly. Winning is not everything, it's the only thing.

                  I also believe that there should be a dynamic rivalry feature. As Mizzou, I have built a "rivalry" with teams like Miami, and Iowa State has become a joke. I would like to see something that would help make rivalries more legitimate and changeable.

                  PS anybody interested in a sweet dynasty (I need some competition, please contact dapanther305 or MMAsterkillah (me) on XBOXLive).
                  Last edited by MMAsterkillah; 03-29-2009, 01:01 AM.

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                  • MrDhWhat
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 50

                    #144
                    enjoy the protection. nice for opening up holes for the run. or a possible scramble from the QB.

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                    • Tuxedo9000
                      Rookie
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 82

                      #145
                      Re: NCAA Football 10 Blog: Pocket Protection

                      Originally posted by MrDhWhat
                      enjoy the protection. nice for opening up holes for the run. or a possible scramble from the QB.
                      I actually think it'll halt the scramble a little bit. The ends are going to be rushing like they are supposed to know as opposed to everyone in a straight line like the past years game so taking off for a scramble to the side will more than likely result in running into a big end or a blitzer.

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                      • blackscorpion11
                        Pro
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 691

                        #146
                        I want a true pocket, I want RATINGS TO MATTER, i.e. if I have a 95-freaking-rated Defensive lineman going against a Craptastic 72 rated Offensive lineman, my stud DL better damn well be LIVING in that backfield the entire game. That goes for my Stud OL destroying inferior D lines as well.

                        I also want to make sure that the absolutely ridiculous pancake fest '09 is erased for '10, where when Auburn plays Akron and Akron's entire O line simultaneously flips all 4 of my Defensive line (each of which is around 15-20 points higher overall) on their heads within .008 milliseconds of the ball being snapped.

                        If these things are addressed....I might have a party in my pants. But I have to see it to believe it. One picture isn't going to convince me.


                        Perfectly stated...i couldn't have said it better.. Make the Ratings count!!!

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                        • blackscorpion11
                          Pro
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 691

                          #147
                          IMO , With so many GAPING problems with this game, i could give a damn about refs on the field.. How about linebackers and corners that actually cover someone BEFORE they catch the ball?? How about not only ratings that matter but Experience that matters.. Freshman in the 06 version were inexperienced and mistake prone and panic prone in big games..whereas seniors were cool under fire.. Bring that BACK!!

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                          • Sweatervest09
                            Rookie
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 13

                            #148
                            Re: NCAA Football 10 Blog: Pocket Protection

                            Originally posted by Tuxedo9000
                            I actually think it'll halt the scramble a little bit. The ends are going to be rushing like they are supposed to know as opposed to everyone in a straight line like the past years game so taking off for a scramble to the side will more than likely result in running into a big end or a blitzer.
                            Right, so scrambling will be realistic, and faster. Straight line through the gaurd/tackle gap in pass protection is faster than running around the side, and more sensible. If you mean it will be slower for people trying to scramble the old way, then yes, you are right. Hopefully they went the extra step and gave players contain responsibilities.

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                            • jdrhammer
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 1287

                              #149
                              Re: NCAA Football 10 Blog: Pocket Protection

                              Originally posted by Sweatervest09
                              Right, so scrambling will be realistic, and faster. Straight line through the gaurd/tackle gap in pass protection is faster than running around the side, and more sensible. If you mean it will be slower for people trying to scramble the old way, then yes, you are right. Hopefully they went the extra step and gave players contain responsibilities.
                              It shouldn't be so easy for the QB to scramble up the gut unless there is a huge hole. The suction usually gets most of this.

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                              • Sweatervest09
                                Rookie
                                • Apr 2009
                                • 13

                                #150
                                Re: NCAA Football 10 Blog: Pocket Protection

                                Originally posted by jdrhammer
                                It shouldn't be so easy for the QB to scramble up the gut unless there is a huge hole. The suction usually gets most of this.
                                Right. My statement was misleading, i didn't mean to say it would be a large gap on most plays (Although, knowing EA, im not counting that out), but that in scramble situations (End losing contain on 09, End getting blocked out of the play on 10), it will be more effective in 10. Now thats not acounting for pursuit angles being fixed and everything else, but initially, scrambling should be easier.

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