MLB 2K9 Post-Patch Impressions (360 & PS3 merged)

[Guffers]

Re: ***Official patch 2 impressions thread (PS3 only)***

To clarify , the AI IS less aggressive but not realistically so, in my opinion. They don't appear to really work the count or look for a good pitch to hit. They take a few more strikes but more often than not will swing at a lousy pitch as long as its somewhere near the zone. I've also seen a lot of pitches well outside struck for a hit. Now I'm basing this on a game I had before where the CPU was sat down on 3 pitches in 3 seperate innings. This game also featured 6 HR's but no tragic outfielder incidents.

I really don't want to come off sounding like I'm bashing the game but for me the core of a baseball title needs to be the batter/pitcher duel. And it just doesn't feel like its there. I will give this game another chance tomorrow and hopefully something will click. I really love the controls and the presentation so I'm still holding out for a few more games.

[mva5580]

Re: ***Official patch 2 impressions thread (PS3 only)***

For a game that has had as many complaints as it's had, I'm shocked the minimal amount of actual information in this topic as it relates to how this patch works.

I mean do like 20 people on this board have the PS3 version, and everyone else has 360/PC? And NO, that is not me asking every person to respond with what version they have. And yet people will do it anyway although I just asked them not to.

I'm anxiously awaiting the PC version patch, hopefully it solves most of the problems.

[MrArlingtonBeach]

I am a bit nervous regarding the lack of focus/info on franchise mode adjustment in the patch...freezing, DL problems, etc.

[mva5580]

Re: ***Official patch 2 impressions thread (PS3 only)***

Well the notes did say at the end that there were a lot of other little franchise specific corrections, perhaps those fixes involve solving the crashing issues.

[SoxFan01605]

Re: ***Official patch 2 impressions thread (PS3 only)***

Well the notes did say at the end that there were a lot of other little franchise specific corrections, perhaps those fixes involve solving the crashing issues.

I'm hoping so. He said that the fixes were small though, and the major ones were already listed. I would think a crash fix or freezing fix would have been mentioned. We'll see though.

[m-dogg]

Re: ***Official patch 2 impressions thread (PS3 only)***

can someone see if the AI still can't hit a 12-6 curve? take the redsox and beckett, and throw the 12-6 curve 80% of the time and see if they can hit it? I'm hoping the EI tweaking somehow fixed this, Id hate to be unable to throw a curve jsut because its a money pitch in frachise...

To clarify , the AI IS less aggressive but not realistically so, in my opinion. They don't appear to really work the count or look for a good pitch to hit. They take a few more strikes but more often than not will swing at a lousy pitch as long as its somewhere near the zone. I've also seen a lot of pitches well outside struck for a hit. Now I'm basing this on a game I had before where the CPU was sat down on 3 pitches in 3 seperate innings. This game also featured 6 HR's but no tragic outfielder incidents.

I really don't want to come off sounding like I'm bashing the game but for me the core of a baseball title needs to be the batter/pitcher duel. And it just doesn't feel like its there. I will give this game another chance tomorrow and hopefully something will click. I really love the controls and the presentation so I'm still holding out for a few more games.

this is what I was afraid of. I'm with you, a baseball game is only as good as its batter/pitcher gameplay. The AI should (more often than not) lay off hard to hit pitches unless theres 2 strikes, and look for something better to hit...instead of randomly taking pitches and then swinging crazily at others and balls well outside.

anyways, I hope to test these issues out soon on the 360 version....

[rdelizo35]

Re: ***Official patch 2 impressions thread (PS3 only)***

I got prompted for the patch as well last night and it looks like the AI aggressiveness is really fixed and I've noticed that there are less awful mishaps in the OF as well. That's not to say that they've been eliminated, but I've noticed that it seems to be toned down.

I also noticed that HR's are down.

[Hoos]

Re: ***Official patch 2 impressions thread (PS3 only)***

[quote=m-dogg;2039375183]can someone see if the AI still can't hit a 12-6 curve? take the redsox and beckett, and throw the 12-6 curve 80% of the time and see if they can hit it? I'm hoping the EI tweaking somehow fixed this, Id hate to be unable to throw a curve jsut because its a money pitch in frachise...[quote]

I'd like to know this as well.........can someone please test this out??

[rdelizo35]

Re: ***Official patch 2 impressions thread (PS3 only)***

Hey M-dogg,

I had a game last night and I was the Dodgers and used Clayton Kershaw as a RP and was able to strike out two batters using his CB, both on 0-2 counts, with the first two strikes being 4-seam FB's in the zone.

I could test how Beckett is later on and let you know, after I get some homework done.

[Hoos]

Re: ***Official patch 2 impressions thread (PS3 only)***

Hey M-dogg,

I had a game last night and I was the Dodgers and used Clayton Kershaw as a RP and was able to strike out two batters using his CB, both on 0-2 counts, with the first two strikes being 4-seam FB's in the zone.

I could test how Beckett is later on and let you know, after I get some homework done.

Be sure to throw the 12-6 curve as the vast majority of your pitches. The concern is whether the CPU can hit the curve at all. As it is, the AI seems to be unable to hit that pitch.

[Ferrari997]

Re: ***Official patch 2 impressions thread (PS3 only)***

Is Top 100 prospects list disappearing fixed?

[~Guru~]

Re: ***Official patch 2 impressions thread (PS3 only)***

For the poster who says the ai still sucks at taking pitches and those complaining about hitters not being able to hit 12 to 6 curves....have you guys used sliders...I hope people don't think that once the patch is out that sliders don't need to be rehauled. They do and we can't judge the patch till slider work is put in...

[StormJH1]

Re: ***Official patch 2 impressions thread (PS3 only)***

I don't understand why everybody cares so much about editing stances and deliveries. I mean why would you want to spend hours tinkering with that stuff when you could be playing the game? A lot of people seem to want it though, so it's obviously only my opinion.

Just because a million people complain about it though, does not mean that it's reasonable to expect it to get done. Patches of this sort are meant to tweak tendencies and make the game play better, as well as squash bugs. They are not meant to add new features wholesale to the game.

I hope for everyone's sake that the user can edit stances and deliveries in 2k10... then we all won't have to hear about it anymore.

Amen. I just read 8 pages of this thread and probably 90% talked about hitter agressiveness, batting stances and progressive lighting. Meanwhile, people are saying that they still see missed flyballs and 1B glitches...how can that NOT be your major concern?

[StormJH1]

Re: ***Official patch 2 impressions thread (PS3 only)***

I managed to get 5 post patch innings in before and was pleasantly suprised to see that the game plays like baseball now! The aggression has been sorted out and I didn't notice the 1st base glitch. Although I did have outfielders misplay 2 fly balls, both costing multiple runs. I'm assuming its something I'm doing wrong but I'm really not sure what that could be. I'm moving to the spot and then letting go of the sticks.

One time the left fielder raised his hand too late and the ball bounced off the outside of his glove, then later my centre fielder completely ignored the ball and it landed right next to him and continued to bounce on to the wall. Please help me with this guys! What's the secret to catching fly balls?

Posts like this need to be addressed more in this thread, and I'm astounded that they're not. There should not have to be a "secret" to catching flyballs. The two major glitches this game had did NOT include batting aggressiveness and batting stances--heck, those aren't even glitches...they're game design decisions.

The two biggest problems were OF flys and 1B off the bag. A flyball or line drive directly at an outfielder should not be a frightening play. It should be a routine out, and that fact that it isn't breaks the game. If you read the blog entry about the fixes, he does actually say that a lot of these things were fixed. He uses phrases like "drastically reduced the frequency of" or "tweaked." That tells me that these problems are being caused by several layers of programming failure, and they were either unable or unwilling to spend the resources to correct it in a patch.

[ballin095]

Re: ***Official patch 2 impressions thread (PS3 only)***

I also noticed that batters don't "snap" into their animations anymore. Major plus