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  • youALREADYknow
    MVP
    • Aug 2008
    • 3635

    #31
    Re: NCAA Football 10: Player Lock and Defensive Assist

    Originally posted by ODogg
    Yeah but you guys are assuming that when you switch to a player to use player lock it will stay that way for the next play. I'll bet that's not how it works. You choose a MLB and the camera changes. Then the next play it's back to the regular camera angle. Which means the feature is going to simply be a gimmick and not a useful one.
    Sadly, that was just confirmed on another board. I'm personally pissed off now because that is HORRIBLE.

    I'm generally an optimistic person about NCAA/Madden, but I'm getting sick of the half-assed, half-done features that the NCAA team is putting into the game. All of these features have been done correctly in past EA sports games, yet we get the short bus versions.

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    • Derrville
      Banned
      • Sep 2008
      • 1623

      #32
      Re: NCAA Football 10: Player Lock and Defensive Assist

      Originally posted by AuburnAlumni
      Nice additions....BUUUUUUUTTTT....

      The screen shot of the Miami DB doing the classic EA "jump 40 feet in the air and do the Volleyball swat" motion as a cheap way of defending passes needs to die a horrible death.

      MOST of the time....a DB is going to simply go stride for stride with the WR and stick a hand in the WR's face or get his hands inside of the WRs hands and knock the ball away.


      College DBs don't jump 8 feet in the air and deflect the Football like Dikembe Mutombo and yet this has been EAs way of playing pass defense for as long as I can remember.
      +10000000000000000 for the pic!
      +1 for the post!

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      • Derrville
        Banned
        • Sep 2008
        • 1623

        #33
        Re: NCAA Football 10: Player Lock and Defensive Assist

        Maddens dev said this


        This is exclusive to NCAA 10.

        I have played it and it's definitely pretty cool, but as you guys have seen we're trying to simplify everything & get back to basics; less mechanics / pure football. This didn't really fit under that direction.
        Hmmmmm

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        • ODogg
          Hall Of Fame
          • Feb 2003
          • 37953

          #34
          Re: NCAA Football 10: Player Lock and Defensive Assist

          Originally posted by youALREADYknow
          Sadly, that was just confirmed on another board. I'm personally pissed off now because that is HORRIBLE.

          I'm generally an optimistic person about NCAA/Madden, but I'm getting sick of the half-assed, half-done features that the NCAA team is putting into the game. All of these features have been done correctly in past EA sports games, yet we get the short bus versions.
          Well I was hoping I was wrong to be honest. This is classic EA though, introduce a feature that could be useful but hobble it in some fashion to make it something you quit using after a while since it's a hassle. Like last year's stadium sounds. All the rigamaroll you had to do last year to get different sounds in different stadiums pretty much made the feature worthless.
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          • Pokes404
            MVP
            • Jun 2008
            • 1720

            #35
            Re: NCAA Football 10: Player Lock and Defensive Assist

            Does anyone know if player lock will be available in an offline co-op game? Obviously, the camera change wouldn't be possible; however, can one player lock when playing defense against another human player? Or better yet, can two guys playing on the same team both use player lock?

            A friend and I played an entire season on the same team in NCAA 06. Both of us controlled a cornerback and we competed for the best stats (most INT's, breakups, and TDs) throughout the year. It was a lot of fun.

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            • youALREADYknow
              MVP
              • Aug 2008
              • 3635

              #36
              Re: NCAA Football 10: Player Lock and Defensive Assist

              Here was the reason given:

              "We wanted people to be able to use the Player Lock 1 or 100 times a game and not have to travel to menus to decide."
              I'm hoping there is still some kind of menu option in the final release version, but it doesn't look likely from that comment.

              I want to know who simply decides to use Player Lock on 2-3 plays per game? They just wouldn't hit the Player Switch button during those few plays.

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              • youALREADYknow
                MVP
                • Aug 2008
                • 3635

                #37
                Re: NCAA Football 10: Player Lock and Defensive Assist

                Originally posted by Pokes404
                A friend and I played an entire season on the same team in NCAA 06. Both of us controlled a cornerback and we competed for the best stats (most INT's, breakups, and TDs) throughout the year. It was a lot of fun.
                Exactly! That is one of the main purposes of Player Lock.

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                • sportzbro
                  MVP
                  • May 2008
                  • 3892

                  #38
                  Re: NCAA Football 10: Player Lock and Defensive Assist

                  I can see the defensive assist feature being abused. Can you at least make it possible to turn it off?

                  I really like the player lock option though. It could make playing defense fun.

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                  • travis a.d.
                    Rookie
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 278

                    #39
                    Re: NCAA Football 10: Player Lock and Defensive Assist

                    Originally posted by youALREADYknow
                    Exactly! That is one of the main purposes of Player Lock.
                    actually, that is the main purpose of campus legend mode.
                    Just kidding.

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                    • Russell_Kiniry_EA
                      NCAA Football 10 Designer
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 141

                      #40
                      Re: NCAA Football 10: Player Lock and Defensive Assist

                      In the past versions of NCAA you've always stayed on the same player for defense in between plays (and it will be that way again), all it takes is a simple press of the Left Analog Stick to activate the mode again.

                      While I think you've made your point you do not like that way of doing it, personally I think it is better that I am not forced into a menu every single time I want to turn Player Lock on/off, also I can change my mind and be a DE one play and a CB the next... agian without going to a menu.

                      So while I don't think you are wrong, it is a valid opinion; this was our choice to go with this method for Player Lock.
                      Last edited by Russell_Kiniry_EA; 04-02-2009, 08:11 PM.

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                      • Russell_Kiniry_EA
                        NCAA Football 10 Designer
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 141

                        #41
                        Re: NCAA Football 10: Player Lock and Defensive Assist

                        Originally posted by AuburnAlumni
                        Nice additions....BUUUUUUUTTTT....

                        The screen shot of the Miami DB doing the classic EA "jump 40 feet in the air and do the Volleyball swat" motion as a cheap way of defending passes needs to die a horrible death.

                        MOST of the time....a DB is going to simply go stride for stride with the WR and stick a hand in the WR's face or get his hands inside of the WRs hands and knock the ball away.


                        College DBs don't jump 8 feet in the air and deflect the Football like Dikembe Mutombo and yet this has been EAs way of playing pass defense for as long as I can remember.
                        He really is only about a foot off the ground (if that), the angle just makes it look higher...

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                        • sdid22
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 115

                          #42
                          Re: NCAA Football 10: Player Lock and Defensive Assist

                          Can a commish for a OD totally turn the option off prior to starting a dynasty? I'm also worried about the abusing of defensive assist.
                          "If it cost to be the boss then I guess I gotta pay." Lil Wayne

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                          • Russell_Kiniry_EA
                            NCAA Football 10 Designer
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 141

                            #43
                            Re: NCAA Football 10: Player Lock and Defensive Assist

                            Originally posted by Pokes404
                            Does anyone know if player lock will be available in an offline co-op game? Obviously, the camera change wouldn't be possible; however, can one player lock when playing defense against another human player? Or better yet, can two guys playing on the same team both use player lock?

                            A friend and I played an entire season on the same team in NCAA 06. Both of us controlled a cornerback and we competed for the best stats (most INT's, breakups, and TDs) throughout the year. It was a lot of fun.
                            Yes two players can lock on off-line co-op... however you will not get the camera changes as you guessed.

                            Imagine the craziness it would cause, fighting over that view.

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                            • LtClaybon
                              Rookie
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 44

                              #44
                              Re: NCAA Football 10: Player Lock and Defensive Assist

                              Originally posted by AuburnAlumni
                              Nice additions....BUUUUUUUTTTT....


                              College DBs don't jump 8 feet in the air and deflect the Football like Dikembe Mutombo and yet this has been EAs way of playing pass defense for as long as I can remember.
                              AA,

                              The way i look at it, it's not the way the animation plays out that ruins that part of the gameplay, but the physics, or the lack of physics that the flight of the ball, and the jump of the players show.

                              Most of the balls that get swatted like that in real life are horrible underthrows that the DB has time to measure up and wap away....and the reciever has to try to slow down and get to the ball, but his defender is able to get their first.

                              BUT THE DIFFERENCE IS...

                              In real life, Quarterbacks can also OVERTHROW their recievers...or lead them and prevent that situation.

                              So, i guess what i mean to say is there are WAY too many under throws that make that animation show up on almost every deep ball.

                              So they either need to extend the throw more relative to the reciever...or make the ball obey the laws of gravity and not just float all over the field.

                              I think EA Misunderstands what a "Lob" pass really is....you aren't actually just throwing it up for grabs 233 feet in the air...it's a solid throw with a trajectory that gives YOUR receiver the best opportunity to catch it at it's highest point....yet time the ballflight in a real-life highlight of a fade pass...Then compare that with some RC'ing in Ncaa...there's no comparison

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                              • Russell_Kiniry_EA
                                NCAA Football 10 Designer
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 141

                                #45
                                Re: NCAA Football 10: Player Lock and Defensive Assist

                                Originally posted by sdid22
                                Can a commish for a OD totally turn the option off prior to starting a dynasty? I'm also worried about the abusing of defensive assist.
                                I left this question off the blog, but do not worry... the player under defensive assist will play according to the attributes of the player, he does not enter into some super human mode where they make every play. This is simply an assist, not a cheat... in fact if you were to hold this down an entire play it would be worse off, they will not go for picks at all.

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