Madden NFL 10 Blog: Adaptive AI

[mercalnd]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: Adaptive AI

I was asking for clarification of the blog. This was a direct quote from the blog..."a defender will get better and better at man coverage if you keep running the same route over and over again"...

The boost would only apply if you call the same play/route. You're talking about sending that same receiver on a totally different route.

[CapnKill]

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Why don't you read the blog, then you'll see how it works.

I read the blog and I don't believe there is a clear answer to my question.

[icomb1ne]

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Hopefully it applies to the offense as well!!

Also, I hope that it is carried over from game to game in franchise mode. Teams should know a little about one's tendencies when entering a game.

[CapnKill]

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I was asking for clarification of the blog. This was a direct quote from the blog..."a defender will get better and better at man coverage if you keep running the same route over and over again"...

I'll give an example of my primary concern. If I scout a defense and see there's a rookie cornerback that I want to beat deep on a double move, I would start by throwing a couple of short routes in order to set him up for the double move. Theoretically, If the game gives the rookie DB an increase in man coverage skills, instead of setting him up, I've actually made him a better CB that is less likely to bite on the double move.

I think this what Ian says on that subject:

if you keep running the same route over and over again, but would drop back down to his original rating if you keep mixing it up

[Steeler99]

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Hopefully it applies to the offense as well!!

Also, I hope that it is carried over from game to game in franchise mode. Teams should know a little about one's tendencies when entering a game.

+1

[SteelerSpartan]

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Sounds very promising and much needed to make Madden more SIM


Im anxiously waiting to see it all in action.

[Vikes1]

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Seems to me, that with Adaptive AI at long last being added, it may also cut down on the cpu's Superman ways to be competitive.

Meaning...with the AI now being able to anticipate, it may now be in better position to make the play. Rather than having to count on super jumping LB's and speed morphing DB's.

[splff3000]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: Adaptive AI

I was asking for clarification of the blog. This was a direct quote from the blog..."a defender will get better and better at man coverage if you keep running the same route over and over again"...

I'll give an example of my primary concern. If I scout a defense and see there's a rookie cornerback that I want to beat deep on a double move, I would start by throwing a couple of short routes in order to set him up for the double move. Theoretically, If the game gives the rookie DB an increase in man coverage skills, instead of setting him up, I've actually made him a better CB that is less likely to bite on the double move.

He specifically said that the DB would get a boost when that particular route was ran again. A double move is something different ie an out and up is a different route than an out.

EDIT: didn't see all the other posts saying the same thing I just said. Disregard please

[kmart2180]

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Wow!!! Simply Amazing!!!
Things just keep getting better and better for this years madden.
This was one of the more important area's of madden to me. And I am exstatic that this is being done for madden 10.

I cant wait to hear how this works for the cpu offensively.

[Nza]

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Cool concept, but Adaptive AI isn't new to Madden as a supposed feature (the "first sports game that adjusts to you", anyone?), so obviously implementation is the key.

[clarkerots]

Hopefully there's no ratings boost but an awareness boost. That would make more sense. Just not enough information right now. What would be great though is if the adaptive AI could work both ways, negatively and positively. Example, I'm running a dive play from pro set double tight end. After a few plays the defense recognizes that pro set double tight end will result in a dive play, so their awareness goes up and they do things like stack the line with 8 in the box to prevent the dive (negative). Now, if I run pro set double tight end with a play action fake dive, the defense should be expecting the dive play and start with 8 in the box (positive). Not only should that work in my favor but maybe lower the expectations of the defense that the pro set double tight end will be a dive play. I'm not saying overdo it where the example above leads to a big play every time, but maybe it turns a defense double covering a receiver into single coverage with no safety help......and play it out from there. Ian, thoughts? comments? anything you can reveal without killing me afterwards?

[mercalnd]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: Adaptive AI

Cool concept, but Adaptive AI isn't new to Madden as a supposed feature (the "first sports game that adjusts to you", anyone?), so obviously implementation is the key.

Last year's adaptive AI concept was about difficulty level, not strategy. What they are doing is more like what the NHL series has.

[Smoke316]

I hope it works exactly as u stated..very good example. Hopefully
It isn't too easy..but it would b nice to catch the computer off guard every once in a while on all madden

[shotgun styles]

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Seems to me, that with Adaptive AI at long last being added, it may also cut down on the cpu's Superman ways to be competitive.

Meaning...with the AI now being able to anticipate, it may now be in better position to make the play. Rather than having to count on super jumping LB's and speed morphing DB's.

This is really the thing that makes this the killer ap. If the CPU can win WITHOUT CHEATING, that would be amazing. Can you imagine the death of Robo-QB? Now when the CPU get's you in the 4th it's because you kept running cover-4 on 3rd down and it adjusted. Not because it made your defenders run away from the ball.

Imagine having a 10-6 season, just missing the playoffs, and NOT feeling like you got jipped or cheated. Now you're thinking about how to improve your roster, gameplan and execution instead of how bad you got robbed by the CPU.

With some good tuning, this feature could make the game damn hard without any cheating by the CPU.

[SageInfinite]

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This is really the thing that makes this the killer ap. If the CPU can win WITHOUT CHEATING, that would be amazing. Can you imagine the death of Robo-QB? Now when the CPU get's you in the 4th it's because you kept running cover-4 on 3rd down and it adjusted. Not because it made your defenders run away from the ball.

Imagine having a 10-6 season, just missing the playoffs, and NOT feeling like you got jipped or cheated. Now you're thinking about how to improve your roster, gameplan and execution instead of how bad you got robbed by the CPU.

With some good tuning, this feature could make the game damn hard without any cheating by the CPU.

Now that is truly a dream. Damn you got me thinking now!