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  • Swingking77
    Rookie
    • Jul 2006
    • 434

    #61
    Re: NFL Antitrust: What it Means for the Sports Video Game Industry

    Originally posted by vinny_b
    "Yuck.That would kill video football period in my opinion"


    EA already did that. I haven't done so much as look at a football videogame, since NFL 2k5
    I'm sorry for the double post here, but could you please elaborate on why this would "kill" football video games? It's all fine and dandy to say it... But an explination would be nice...

    Furthermore, if EA saw that as a result of this kind of open football game, that being exclusive means very little when pitted against a community of people willing to work at a better product TOGETHER, they would likely halt the wish for exclusivity all together... And eventually we would have pairity within video game football once again... And that goes for EA as well... Make a generic baseball game with complete custome ability... I'm on no ones side but we the consumers here... We deserve better for our hard earned (or at this point) rapidly decreasing money...

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    • 7stringking
      Banned
      • Oct 2006
      • 269

      #62
      That is the best point...EA having the NFL was one thing, but then when they went out and made sure that 2k simply could not get their hands on any League level football..

      Well, that is the proof in the pudding they are dirty pool players

      At least Sony gets to make The Show...And yet 2k can't even make an NCAA Football game...Which would MORE than make me happy

      I could live without 2k doing the NFL..I'd probably buy Madden for Superstar mode alone(if they improve it a bit) and 2k's NCAA game if there was one

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      • GTheorenHobbes
        Banned
        • Jul 2002
        • 2572

        #63
        Re: NFL Antitrust: What it Means for the Sports Video Game Industry

        Originally posted by coogrfan
        So because you're unhappy with the state of football video games, you would be in favor of a Supreme Court ruling that would effectively tell sports leagues that they do not have the right to market their intellectual property rights as they see fit?

        You guys really need to think about the larger ramifications of a win by American Needle. There's a lot more at stake here than just NFL 2k__.
        How would that be any different than a court telling Microsoft that they can't do with their intellectual property rights as they see fit? Don't we have antitrust/monopoly laws on the books for a reason?

        And the last time I checked, the NFL isn't exactly doing the consumers any favors by whoring out their license to Directv and EA. Why should professional sports leagues be exempt from the antitrust laws, when the rest of business is not? I say screw 'em.

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        • raidersbball20
          MVP
          • Apr 2008
          • 1375

          #64
          this could really mess up games with having teams and logos individually bought

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          • SouthernBrick
            9.17.13
            • Mar 2009
            • 5831

            #65
            Re: NFL Antitrust: What it Means for the Sports Video Game Industry

            EA is finally wising up.

            Could be coincidence, but EA just seems like that type of company that knows when to hold em and when to fold em. They have been holding for a long time with the back of the box features and the dev's probably have to bend to there ways.

            But now that the time is getting closer that they may lose there Exclusive Rights they are now folding and bending to our ways rather than there's.
            They have heard our voice and they are responding b/c they know if they lose that Lisence that 2k may come back strong and they don't want that.

            To EA its all about sales, but now that they see that 2k can eventually take alot of money from them if they lose this battle in the football genre.

            And thats not in EA's best interest and now they know they have to just straight up make a better game than 2k or at least up to that level. After the exclusive lisence EA was like well we own the NFL rights we can do whatever to make the game look flashy and sell without interuption of 2k.

            Now toward the end of there exclusive rights its more about physics, sim and realism more than ever...

            I may be dead wrong but its just my opinon on why we are getting the best madden(possibly football game) up to date this year.

            My expectations of this madden is very high this year and they have always had the teams to do it until the exclusive rights took place, and it went downhill from there.
            Originally posted by WatsonTiger
            One out of 7 billion, and we still tagged your ***.

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            • Derrville
              Banned
              • Sep 2008
              • 1623

              #66
              Re: NFL Antitrust: What it Means for the Sports Video Game Industry

              Originally posted by Swingking77
              Well said, and in a nutshell, the only argument that makes any sence... That being said, they did not attack 2K's ability to make a football game, only the licences to make "official" league games... Hence why I stated that they should make the generic football game and let people have total control of how to mod it... Since they're not putting out, at the very least, SOMETHING to compete with Madden they are also purpetuating the monopoly, which in the end, as you said yourself, screws gamers... As such, they're both douche bags for jamming it to the gaming community...
              Not allowed, 2K would get sued.

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              • xylocaine
                MVP
                • Jul 2002
                • 1082

                #67
                please let this come true...

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                • Swingking77
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 434

                  #68
                  Re: NFL Antitrust: What it Means for the Sports Video Game Industry

                  Originally posted by Derrville
                  Not allowed, 2K would get sued.
                  Not at all... EA owns the rights to NFL football, not the sport itself. It's no different then having people mod the names in NCAA sports titles... Though I woud be interested in seeing where you came up with this notion... Or are you just making an assumption here...

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                  • SBartlett
                    Staff Writer
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 152

                    #69
                    The Supreme Court has asserted that they shall view each professional sports league one case at a time and each league facet at time.

                    So NCAA would be a whole different issue.

                    What the Supreme Court says is the law is the law lol. I love the ideas here though guys. I think 2k could still be able to come back with titles with full customization and some likenesses to the NFL. They have a great engine for their game, it just needs fine tuning and more features.

                    They have taken hits though to produce the games and so who knows what the future holds.

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                    • Derrville
                      Banned
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 1623

                      #70
                      Re: NFL Antitrust: What it Means for the Sports Video Game Industry

                      Originally posted by Swingking77
                      Not at all... EA owns the rights to NFL football, not the sport itself. It's no different then having people mod the names in NCAA sports titles... Though I woud be interested in seeing where you came up with this notion... Or are you just making an assumption here...
                      No Someone asked the Madden devs if they could edit the uniforms but keep the logo, and EA said no cause if a vid popped out somewhere on youtube where the cowboys were pink EA would be in alot of trouble.

                      So if EA who has the license would get in trouble, wouldnt a company that doesnt have the license expect the same?

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                      • Brandwin
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 30621

                        #71
                        Re: NFL Antitrust: What it Means for the Sports Video Game Industry

                        Sorry, I won't buy an NFL game with out all the teams and players.

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                        • tabulaRasa
                          Pro
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 641

                          #72
                          Awesome if we could have more NFL games to choose from, I personally preferred NFL2k series, but in general I am for competetion, as it´s the driving force pushing games forward.

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                          • Swingking77
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 434

                            #73
                            Re: NFL Antitrust: What it Means for the Sports Video Game Industry

                            Originally posted by Derrville
                            No Someone asked the Madden devs if they could edit the uniforms but keep the logo, and EA said no cause if a vid popped out somewhere on youtube where the cowboys were pink EA would be in alot of trouble.

                            So if EA who has the license would get in trouble, wouldnt a company that doesnt have the license expect the same?
                            No no... You're mistaken, this would have to be a game with NO names, and no logos what so ever... Ther would be no infringment what so ever... You're talking about editing official teams... Not subject matter

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                            • PGaither84
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 4393

                              #74
                              Re: NFL Antitrust: What it Means for the Sports Video Game Industry

                              Originally posted by Swingking77
                              No no... You're mistaken, this would have to be a game with NO names, and no logos what so ever... Ther would be no infringment what so ever... You're talking about editing official teams... Not subject matter
                              Exactly. think Madden 64, but also with no NFLPA. Madden 64 had team San Francisco, and Team Dallas, etc. But in that game there was S. Young the QB and J. Rice the WR.

                              I am all for competition. I bought 2k5 on a whim before when i went in to get Madden 05. I'll give you 3 guesses which one I liked more.
                              My Madden Blog

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                              • coach_ruckus
                                Rookie
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 63

                                #75
                                With back breaker getting in the mix, well see the best 2k and madden games once they are free to use nfl players
                                MADDEN NATION 3 COACH RUCKUS

                                GAMER TAG COACH RUCKUS

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