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  • adembroski
    49ers
    • Jul 2002
    • 5829

    #661
    Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: The Importance of an Early Community Day (New Screenshot Incl

    Originally posted by TheWatcher
    It comes from hate.

    I mean, before we went out to Orlando we were praised by some of these very same people. Not even a full week later we've all suddenly returned as dummies who know nothing, lol.

    Hilarious.

    It's just another example of how people can flip like a pancake. Some of these guys should come together, get entrepreneurial and start selling the How-To book to IHOP
    You know, the more I think about it, the more I understand it. It's not hate, it's utter confusion.

    I think everyone expects Madden 10 to be several strides ahead of Madden 09, but I don't think anybody is expecting to see what we saw.

    Let me put it this way... we've spent 18 hours with the game. We watched a power point presentation in which damn near every jaw in the room hit the floor. We've seen it, it's a hell of a lot easier for us to believe it's actually come that far. We've all tempered our views, we've all pointed out the flaws, but we've always said "hey, this might get fixed, this is so close" etc.. And to have you, LBzrule, and BezO come back praising it like you have... I can imagine it smells fishy to some... how does Madden, who was hard pressed to figure out how to get defensive hot routes back into the game 3 frickin' years later, ever make this much progress in one year?

    Hell, I was asking them that when I was there.
    There are two types of people on OS: Those who disagree with me, and those who agree.

    The first kind is wrong. The second is superfluous.

    The only difference between reality and fiction is that fiction needs to be credible.
    -Mark Twain.

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    • roadman
      *ll St*r
      • Aug 2003
      • 26339

      #662
      Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: The Importance of an Early Community Day (New Screenshot Incl

      Originally posted by NFLHITMAN
      What!?

      That is the biggest statement I have seen anyone on these boards make so far on Madden 10. I hope your not blowing smoke up my arse because 2K5 was great but APF 2K8 animation are seemless and plentiful.

      Don't be playing me man

      LBz is a straight shooter, he doesn't blow smoke.

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      • Dawkins#20
        Rookie
        • Jun 2007
        • 291

        #663
        Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: The Importance of an Early Community Day (New Screenshot Incl

        Originally posted by adembroski
        You know, the more I think about it, the more I understand it. It's not hate, it's utter confusion.

        I think everyone expects Madden 10 to be several strides ahead of Madden 09, but I don't think anybody is expecting to see what we saw.

        Let me put it this way... we've spent 18 hours with the game. We watched a power point presentation in which damn near every jaw in the room hit the floor. We've seen it, it's a hell of a lot easier for us to believe it's actually come that far. We've all tempered our views, we've all pointed out the flaws, but we've always said "hey, this might get fixed, this is so close" etc.. And to have you, LBzrule, and BezO come back praising it like you have... I can imagine it smells fishy to some... how does Madden, who was hard pressed to figure out how to get defensive hot routes back into the game 3 frickin' years later, ever make this much progress in one year?

        Hell, I was asking them that when I was there.
        I hope i doesn't dissapoint now, i'm going to hold off getting excited though. Stop getting my so hyped!

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        • adembroski
          49ers
          • Jul 2002
          • 5829

          #664
          Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: The Importance of an Early Community Day (New Screenshot Incl

          Originally posted by streamline
          idk if you can say this but did asomugha swat everything in his direction or was he just playing such great coverage that it would be impossible to throw it towards him unless you wanted to get picked off? thanks for responding to almost every question too!
          I tried to force it over there a couple of times. Bad move. His break to the ball is sick, his recovery time is sick, and that's on the few times he's caught out of position, which rarely happens.

          We actually found a glitch where he'd jump a non-existent route and leave a streak route uncovered while he took about 3 steps inside... as long as he turned the right way, he'd still get back before the ball got there. I can honestly say he was too good in that build.
          There are two types of people on OS: Those who disagree with me, and those who agree.

          The first kind is wrong. The second is superfluous.

          The only difference between reality and fiction is that fiction needs to be credible.
          -Mark Twain.

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          • streamline
            Rookie
            • Jul 2008
            • 249

            #665
            Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: The Importance of an Early Community Day (New Screenshot Incl

            Originally posted by adembroski
            I tried to force it over there a couple of times. Bad move. His break to the ball is sick, his recovery time is sick, and that's on the few times he's caught out of position, which rarely happens.

            We actually found a glitch where he'd jump a non-existent route and leave a streak route uncovered while he took about 3 steps inside... as long as he turned the right way, he'd still get back before the ball got there. I can honestly say he was too good in that build.
            no i think that's about right : ). he got thrown to like 10 times last season and gave up a total of like 100 yards or so and 20 or 30 of those yards came across one of mistakes of getting a pass interference against Vincent Jackson in the game against san diego.

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            • countryboy
              Growing pains
              • Sep 2003
              • 52891

              #666
              Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: The Importance of an Early Community Day (New Screenshot Incl

              Originally posted by adembroski
              It already has. This is one of the areas that was fairly well tuned, except for a few AI lapses and 2 glitches we found (one of which appears to only occur in franchise mode, the other seems to be fairly fixable).

              The one problem I found in the passing game is that slower game speed means passing windows stay open longer. However, so long as the pass rush is balanced, this shouldn't be a problem as you'll only have 3-4 seconds to get rid of the ball anyways.

              The matchups are outstandingly well balanced. You don't throw right against the Raiders unless you've got a Larry Fitzgerald over there. Asomugha is just scary over there.

              I'd like to see 'em tune it so there's a bit more jostling between defenders and receivers, but they're on the right track on this, definitely.

              that was more of an answer than I expected...but

              Adem thanks for answering and giving more info than just a yes/no. Again, another person I'm glad got the opportunity to go to the CD event.

              I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

              I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


              Louisville Cardinals/St.Louis Cardinals

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              • TheWatcher
                MVP
                • Oct 2008
                • 3408

                #667
                Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: The Importance of an Early Community Day (New Screenshot Incl

                Originally posted by roadman
                Please understand that the people before that praised you are the same one's praising you. My take is the small crowd that is raising their collective voices are newbs that haven't posted here before they read the blog and became jealous out of nowhere.

                The OS members that have been here thick n thin from last year and beyond(the regs) don't feel that way and will stick near you.
                That's decent man. I really appreciate that.

                I did find it funny to see one guy with like over 1600 posts exploding about it, and this was one of the supporters just a week ago, lol.

                I'm not really taking this seriously though, I've honestly been laughing at it all day. It's a done deal and they still can't let it go, lol. For the people who are acting like that, it's probably a good thing that EA didn't bring them down.

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                • adembroski
                  49ers
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 5829

                  #668
                  Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: The Importance of an Early Community Day (New Screenshot Incl

                  Originally posted by countryboy
                  that was more of an answer than I expected...but

                  Adem thanks for answering and giving more info than just a yes/no. Again, another person I'm glad got the opportunity to go to the CD event.

                  ^^ PS, I meant "practice mode", not franchise mode.

                  And it's been a release for me. Getting some of this stuff out there. I want you guys to be excited, because what you're gonna get in August is a quality product, much more than you would have expected when Ian first took over the position. It is going to be fun for me to watch your reactions to some of the news yet to come.
                  Last edited by adembroski; 04-14-2009, 07:59 PM.
                  There are two types of people on OS: Those who disagree with me, and those who agree.

                  The first kind is wrong. The second is superfluous.

                  The only difference between reality and fiction is that fiction needs to be credible.
                  -Mark Twain.

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                  • NFLHITMAN
                    Pro
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 924

                    #669
                    Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: The Importance of an Early Community Day (New Screenshot Incl

                    Originally posted by coach_ruckus
                    any man not kid who played football in Hs or college knows what real football is. we all know that 2k is real football. but these guys are happy over a picture when we all know that the guys are not going to be as big as the first 2k game



                    but if they were then yes lets get happy. but you need a big tv to see every thing in that picture. every year they put out a picture and then come out with bad game play. Nfl teams dont go for it on 4th down and 10 or 15 they punt

                    its the little things real players see that need to be changed but EA was smart to get madden heads and say their 2k guys
                    Coach Ruckus.....

                    I have been here from the beginning of this thread and we go wayyy back and you are on my friends list so let me say this.....

                    I have had PM's with Ian myself on issues on the game and he has even taken the time to look at some of the links I have sent him on APF and the 2K forums. Ian is trying hard to make this the best game Madden has put out.

                    I don't know all of these guys but the fact that TheWatcher pulled out 2K5 and said bluntly that he would put it in if Madden 10 was not up to his standards should tell you something. Just look at TheWatchers signature LOL. LBzRules has a lot of knowledge of Defense and how they should react and play and played APF for a long time and I am sure he still does.

                    They asked the questions you would have asked and more and are still in discussions with them. Please understand that they can not talk about most of the stuff they have seen because of a signed agreement. I am sure they are busting at the seams wanting to tell us everything but they can't.

                    You know how hard core I am with 2K and you know how Hard Core my leagues are because you were in them. I have full confidence that the people they sent and the progress Ian and team has made will make huge strides in Madden 10. Will it be 2K over night? No, but they don't need to be. I would love something far superior to 2K. I am not a fan of 2K but I am a fan of the best football game out there and I don't care who makes it.

                    Also I have read every post in this thread believe it or not LOL.
                    Operation Sports APF 2K8 Ladder:

                    Season 1 CHAMPION!!!

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                    • PGaither84
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 4393

                      #670
                      Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: The Importance of an Early Community Day (New Screenshot Incl

                      This says it all I think, and I'm a 49ers fan. Then again, Ronnie Lott is there, so it's cool.

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                      My Madden Blog

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                      • countryboy
                        Growing pains
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 52891

                        #671
                        Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: The Importance of an Early Community Day (New Screenshot Incl

                        I wanna take the time to express my gratitude and thanks to the Elite 8. I couldn't think of a better group of guys(maybe ones equal to) to attend the event and represent what the community here has been asking for and wanting.

                        I can only speak for myself obviously when I say this, but for me, I know what I want to see and what I see on Sundays, but football isn't my most knowledgeable sport. I can't speak x's and o's and don't know how to speak the terms to get a point across. Other sports yes, but not football. So its comforting to me, that guys like the Elite 8 went to represent my voice and get what I want in the game, into the game.

                        So thank you guys. At least from one humble poster who's been here more years than I care to count, its truly, truly, truly, appreciated.



                        -CB
                        I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                        I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


                        Louisville Cardinals/St.Louis Cardinals

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                        • streamline
                          Rookie
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 249

                          #672
                          Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: The Importance of an Early Community Day (New Screenshot Incl

                          Originally posted by PGaither84
                          This says it all I think, and I'm a 49ers fan. Then again, Ronnie Lott is there, so it's cool.

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                          he's also a former raider , but he's known more so for his days in whiner land :wink:. I can't wait to see fitzgerald matchup against asomugha in madden 10!!!!!!! Thanks again to the 8 that have been answering questions and getting pretty much the entire community amped for a game that isn't going to drop for another 3 months or so.

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                          • sva91
                            MVP
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 2019

                            #673
                            Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: The Importance of an Early Community Day (New Screenshot Incl

                            Whats with all the commotion over the screen shot? Its actually quite disappointing IMO. Im happy they added more accessories, but this far along with next gen consoles and the player models still dont look right, lighting, textures look off as well.

                            I know I sound like I have something against EA, but just compare close up shots of FIFA 09 and you'll see that these Madden screens are not that great at all. And BTW Fifa is 11 v 11 with 3 animated refs on the field.

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                            • streamline
                              Rookie
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 249

                              #674
                              Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: The Importance of an Early Community Day (New Screenshot Incl

                              Originally posted by sva91
                              Whats with all the commotion over the screen shot? Its actually quite disappointing IMO. Im happy they added more accessories, but this far along with next gen consoles and the player models still dont look right, lighting, textures look off as well.

                              I know I sound like I have something against EA, but just compare close up shots of FIFA 09 and you'll see that these Madden screens are not that great at all. And BTW Fifa is 11 v 11 with 3 animated refs on the field.
                              Forgive our current lighting and skin tone tuning that is still in progress, but I thought you all would dig the new accessories. - straight from the blog, it will only improve my friend.

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                              • g2thecore
                                MVP
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 1818

                                #675
                                Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: The Importance of an Early Community Day (New Screenshot Incl

                                Originally posted by sva91
                                Whats with all the commotion over the screen shot? Its actually quite disappointing IMO. Im happy they added more accessories, but this far along with next gen consoles and the player models still dont look right, lighting, textures look off as well.

                                I know I sound like I have something against EA, but just compare close up shots of FIFA 09 and you'll see that these Madden screens are not that great at all. And BTW Fifa is 11 v 11 with 3 animated refs on the field.
                                You should read the whole blog (especially the paragraph right before the screen shot).
                                "I'll die before I lose, cuz I was born to win."- Drake

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