MLB 09 The Show Patch Announcement From the MLB Development Team

[Big Shmooz]

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That would be annoying - although on that note, I've played 5 season of RTTS at SS (somewhere around 700 games maybe) and I've never had this happen to me.

That is very strange. Can you please do me a favor. Please play the game & dive for a a ball holding down the R2 button for like three seconds. (not just flicking it) & see if the ball throws to home plate. The thing is, I tested this out on two different PS3's & the same thing happened on both. In fact, to make it easier for yourself if you wish, just hit the R2 button even on a ball hit to any fielder & continue to hold the R2 button down. Then do not even bother to press any other button & see if the ball get's thrown to home plate.

Please post back what happens. Thanks.

(Since I did not do this in RTTS, perhaps it only occurs in season or exhibition games, so please try this in either of those modes)

Btw... this was also an issue in MLB08 where the same exact thing happened, so I doubt it would be a defective disk issue.

[PhantomPain]

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That is very strange. Can you please do me a favor. Please play the game & dive for a a ball holding down the R2 button for like three seconds. (not just flicking it) & see if the ball throws to home plate. The thing is, I tested this out on two different PS3's & the same thing happened on both. In fact, to make it easier for yourself if you wish, just hit the R2 button even on a ball hit to any fielder & continue to hold the R2 button down. Then do not even bother to press any other button & see if the ball get's thrown to home plate.

Please post back what happens. Thanks.


(Since I did not do this in RTTS, perhaps it only occurs in season or exhibition games, so please try this in either of those modes)

Serious question...If it takes holding R2 down for 2-3 seconds for this to happen, why hold it that long? I have never encountered this problem (not saying it isn't there) so I must not be holding down as long. Anyway, if you feel like you have figured out where the problem starts, then my suggestion would be to avoid it. You only have to quickly press R2 to get the player to dive and if quickly pressing it, as opposed to holding down for 2-3 seconds, avoids the problem...well then I think you have a way to get around this issue.

[jim416]

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Wait a minute, I said I felt like being strung along. I admit that was a bit exaggerated but I did not say that the developers are just stringing us along and will never release a patch. All I wanted was a little bit more info other than the original post. Is that asking too much?

Words mean things. Okay, you admit you were exaggerating, but if you read many posts here this year these boards had been on the downturn with things people were saying. It's already been explained, by other people, why the devs don't/can't/won't make promises or ETAs. They already have in the first post. And I never said you said they wouln't release a patch.

You know, they don't have to come here at all and the way things were going here at one time I wouldn't blame them if they didn't.

Like skyboxer said, complain away, but when people throw in little personal things it should be responded to, or people, especially many of the new people, will get the idea we can just pound on these devs. Sorry, not for all they've done for/with us.

[Big Shmooz]

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Serious question...If it takes holding R2 down for 2-3 seconds for this to happen, why hold it that long? I have never encountered this problem (not saying it isn't there) so I must not be holding down as long. Anyway, if you feel like you have figured out where the problem starts, then my suggestion would be to avoid it. You only have to quickly press R2 to get the player to dive and if quickly pressing it, as opposed to holding down for 2-3 seconds, avoids the problem...well then I think you have a way to get around this issue.

Technically you are correct. The problem is, in the heat of the moment you see the ball heading toward the outfield you desparately press the R2 button hard. (at least that's what I do) I am not thinking "flick" under that circumstance. It's not really three seconds that I hold it down. I just used that number to make sure whoever will try to duplicate it will hold it down long enough to see what I am talking about. It's like when playing a real game of baseball you twist & turn as you play for body english which of course will not really help the trajactory of the ball you hit to keep it from being a foul ball. It's kind of an instinctual thing. The big issue I have with this is that there is no reason the game should make the R2 do this when the game already has the X button for this function.

[Skyboxer]

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Technically you are correct. The problem is, in the heat of the moment you see the ball heading toward the outfield you desparately press the R2 button hard. (at least that's what I do) I am not thinking "flick" under that circumstance. It's not really three seconds that I hold it down. I just used that number to make sure whoever will try to duplicate it will hold it down long enough to see what I am talking about. It's like when playing a real game of baseball you twist & turn as you play for body english which of course will not really help the trajactory of the ball you hit to keep it from being a foul ball. It's kind of an instinctual thing. The big issue I have with this is that there is no reason the game should make the R2 do this when the game already has the X button for this function.

I still don't get the issue. I understand the heat of the moment etc..etc.. But once you hit R2 to dive the players dives.... hits the ground...gets back up.... and is ready to throw(If he caught the ball).
You're saying in that time frame you have an issue of letting go of the R2 button? Dude that's all on you. Yeah it would be nice if it wasn't mapped to throw home but you have ample time to release the button and hit the base you want to throw to.

[PhantomPain]

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Technically you are correct. The problem is, in the heat of the moment you see the ball heading toward the outfield you desparately press the R2 button hard. (at least that's what I do) I am not thinking "flick" under that circumstance. It's not really three seconds that I hold it down. I just used that number to make sure whoever will try to duplicate it will hold it down long enough to see what I am talking about. It's like when playing a real game of baseball you twist & turn as you play for body english which of course will not really help the trajactory of the ball you hit to keep it from being a foul ball. It's kind of an instinctual thing. The big issue I have with this is that there is no reason the game should make the R2 do this when the game already has the X button for this function.

That's understandable. I guess I just used your "3 seconds" as what it would take to cause the problem as opposed to that just being a general number.

I have not seen this problem but when I get a chance to play again, probably not for a couple of days, I will try and duplicate it to see if I get the same issue.

Is this for regular games or RTTS?

[Big Shmooz]

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Is this for regular games or RTTS?

Regular games. (season mode or exhibition) It may also be an issue in RTTS but since I have not played that mode I can't say for sure. The odd thing is that due to online lag this issue does not seem to be a problem in online games. (since it takes longer for the button press to actually register, one would really have to press R2 for very long for this to happen in an online game)

Thank you for being willing to test this for me, Please post back the results, thanks.

[Big Shmooz]

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I still don't get the issue. I understand the heat of the moment etc..etc.. But once you hit R2 to dive the players dives.... hits the ground...gets back up.... and is ready to throw(If he caught the ball).
You're saying in that time frame you have an issue of letting go of the R2 button? Dude that's all on you. Yeah it would be nice if it wasn't mapped to throw home but you have ample time to release the button and hit the base you want to throw to.

I do let go of the R2 button when the player actually comes up with the ball. The time press issue is from the time the ball is heading toward the outfield when I start the R2 button press TILL he comes up with the ball. Once the ball is in his glove I definitely release the R2 button right away yet the player still throws home.

To be a bit more illustrative of what I am saying, let's say the ball is hit past the pitcher's mound to the right of it (from the batters point of view) I am running toward the ball with my second basemen to cut it off before it get's to the outfield. I realize that unless I dive for the ball, the ball is going to get by my second baseman & into the outfield. So I dive just as the ball is getting past the pitchers mound. I cut off the ball with my second baseman's dive. I let go of the R2. The guy get's up. I press the O button (circle) to throw to first. The second baseman throws home instead. I have even tried multiple presses of the O button to if possible override the fact that he is going to throw home. Yet this does not seem to help.

[DrUrsus]

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oh..so now I'm a fata$$...why you....

LOL!

[DrUrsus]

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I do let go of the R2 button when the player actually comes up with the ball. The time press issue is from the time the ball is heading toward the outfield when I start the R2 button press TILL he comes up with the ball. Once the ball is in his glove I definitely release the R2 button right away yet the player still throws home.

To be a bit more illustrative of what I am saying, let's say the ball is hit past the pitcher's mound to the right of it (from the batters point of view) I am running toward the ball with my second basemen to cut it off before it get's to the outfield. I realize that unless I dive for the ball, the ball is going to get by my second baseman & into the outfield. So I dive just as the ball is getting past the pitchers mound. I cut off the ball with my second baseman's dive. I let go of the R2. The guy get's up. I press the O button (circle) to throw to first. The second baseman throws home instead. I have even tried multiple presses of the O button to if possible override the fact that he is going to throw home. Yet this does not seem to help.

Can't say I have ever had this problem. But, I have patients that are paralyzed veterans (some of them have slightly slower reaction times for various reasons, but they can still play overall, but an issue like this might affect them) that play this game, so ideally if what you say is true, it shouldn't throw home at all.

Hopefully, they fix it for next year.

[Skyboxer]

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I do let go of the R2 button when the player actually comes up with the ball. The time press issue is from the time the ball is heading toward the outfield when I start the R2 button press TILL he comes up with the ball. Once the ball is in his glove I definitely release the R2 button right away yet the player still throws home.

To be a bit more illustrative of what I am saying, let's say the ball is hit past the pitcher's mound to the right of it (from the batters point of view) I am running toward the ball with my second basemen to cut it off before it get's to the outfield. I realize that unless I dive for the ball, the ball is going to get by my second baseman & into the outfield. So I dive just as the ball is getting past the pitchers mound. I cut off the ball with my second baseman's dive. I let go of the R2. The guy get's up. I press the O button (circle) to throw to first. The second baseman throws home instead. I have even tried multiple presses of the O button to if possible override the fact that he is going to throw home. Yet this does not seem to help.

Ahhh. Ok. If that was happening to me then I'd be upset also. You can override the throw as I do it often (Too often lol ). Like if I'm getting ready to catch the ball and accidently hit 3rd base button and realize it I can go ahead and hit the intended base and he will throw there instead. However you have to hit the intended base before the player gets close to starting his throwing motion. So in your example above don't wait till he gets up before hitting the correct button but do it as he's getting up. See if that works...

[Big Shmooz]

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Ahhh. Ok. If that was happening to me then I'd be upset also. You can override the throw as I do it often (Too often lol ). Like if I'm getting ready to catch the ball and accidently hit 3rd base button and realize it I can go ahead and hit the intended base and he will throw there instead. However you have to hit the intended base before the player gets close to starting his throwing motion. So in your example above don't wait till he gets up before hitting the correct button but do it as he's getting up. See if that works...

I actually do try to override the throw. This is what I meant when I said that I press the O button mulitiple times. What I actually do is just as the ball hits his glove I quickly lift my index finger (in a split second) from the R2 & almost simultaneously press with my thumb the O button.

In fact I have been able to override the throw in other circumstances such as the one you give in your example. I have also done the override in a circumstance where as I made the pitch the runner on base took off toward the next base. Then the batter bunted the ball. My original press as I soon as I saw the runner taking off was toward the bag that he was trying to steal. However with the advent of the bunt it would clearly be the wrong throw, so I overrode the throw to then throw to first base after fielding the bunt. This worked fine as the fielder indeed threw to first. The problem is, for some reason in this particular type of throw it doesn't work.

What I have noticed though was that in troubleshooting this issue for myself, I pressed the R2 button on a ground ball (or a linedrive) that was hit directly at the firstbaseman. If it is right at him the R2 seems to not dive if you time it very late. Hence I was able to keep my firstbaseman who had snagged the ball still standing. If I then let go in that situation right away as he was scooping up or catching the ball, & pressed for instance the triangle button, the firstbaseman did indeed throw it to second base. However if I held on to the R2 too long, it threw home. So technically the override should work, but it seems that after an actual dive by the player, for some reason it doesn't.

[DrUrsus]

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In my response to SCEA I knocked their Q&A big time, even told them to put ME in charge (tongue in cheek), but I also realize they have cut off dates and have a higher power telling them when to release the game.

Man, I wish you were there to test the integrity of CPU roster control/lineups/rotations. Didn't you say that when you were there, they worked properly at that point? I really really would like to know what happened with this just out of total curiosity.

Next year, they should have some of you guys come do a quick QA before the game goes gold. People here at OS, that are die hards with the game could find stuff in a few days that is wrong with the game, especially franchise related issues. And they'd probably do it for free (with possible travel related expenses).

OK, I've got to let the CPU roster control/lineup/rotation issue go, and just be patient.

[fistofrage]

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Man, I wish you were there to test the integrity of CPU roster control/lineups/rotations. Didn't you say that when you were there, they worked properly at that point? I really really would like to know what happened with this just out of total curiosity.

Next year, they should have some of you guys come do a quick QA before the game goes gold. People here at OS, that are die hards with the game could find stuff in a few days that is wrong with the game, especially franchise related issues. And they'd probably do it for free (with possible travel related expenses).

OK, I've got to let the CPU roster control/lineup/rotation issue go, and just be patient.

Can someone quickly chronicle what is wrong with the franchise mode.....

Meaning if I start a new franchise what will have me banging my head against a wall and eventually be a game killer?

[rudyjuly2]

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Can someone quickly chronicle what is wrong with the franchise mode.....

Meaning if I start a new franchise what will have me banging my head against a wall and eventually be a game killer?

The cpu will adjust line-ups through the new auto-fix logic despite the fact you may have roster control on. Some clean up guys end up batting 1st or 2nd in the order and the lineups just don't reflect reality on some squads.

The DH position gets tired - as tired as someone playing the OF every day. Not sure what happened there as it was fine the last couple years.

Career stats are goofed up on some players.

Start times for some teams are wrong. Most of the Cubs games are at night rather than during the day.

There is a DL bug. If you put someone on the DL, you can bring a player up to replace him but you can't sign someone as a free agent. (Not 100% sure on that).

Plus I think the fielding errors are broken when using manual fielding.