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  • JerseySuave4
    Banned
    • Mar 2006
    • 5176

    #61
    Re: Official Teambuilder News

    Originally posted by boxtrev
    I don't know why people are getting so excited about this. Sounds to me like in order to put an FCS school into your offline dynasty you will have to take a team out. What's so great about that? Why would I want to take out an FBS school to put in an FCS school?

    I think who this is really appealing to is all those people who want to recreate their high schools and put them into the game to win NCAA championships. Or others who want to create "dream teams." I'm sorry but this is why I could care less about CAS. I thought the NCAA franchise was all about moving closer to SIM not away from it. I am not really enthusiastic about creating the Motown Mutts or anything fake like that.

    Forget CAS, when are we going to hear some news about major presentation upgrades?
    how is it moving away from sim by allowing people to create schools? Just because they dont create 1aa schools doesnt mean its less fun. It adds a lot more replay value than was in there before. And yes you need to replace schools but if people want they can just replace teams from one of the crappier conferences.

    i am very excited to see this feature back and not only back, but expanded and improved.

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    • 2krules
      Banned
      • Sep 2005
      • 1730

      #62
      Re: Official Teambuilder News

      Originally posted by JerseySuave4
      how is it moving away from sim by allowing people to create schools? Just because they dont create 1aa schools doesnt mean its less fun. It adds a lot more replay value than was in there before. And yes you need to replace schools but if people want they can just replace teams from one of the crappier conferences.

      i am very excited to see this feature back and not only back, but expanded and improved.
      I agree with you. This CAS feature adds to the game; it takes nothing away.

      If people don't want CAS, they don't have to use it. I don't see the problem here.

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      • 2krules
        Banned
        • Sep 2005
        • 1730

        #63
        Re: Official Teambuilder News

        Originally posted by MMAsterkillah
        This does nothing for me.

        I want the game to represent real college football, and until that goal is partially reached, these types of features are not necessary.
        Not necessary for you, that's fine.

        But many people went to colleges that are not represented in the game, so this is an awesome feature for them.

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        • da ThRONe
          Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
          • Mar 2009
          • 8557

          #64
          Re: Official Teambuilder News

          Originally posted by boxtrev
          I don't know why people are getting so excited about this. Sounds to me like in order to put an FCS school into your offline dynasty you will have to take a team out. What's so great about that? Why would I want to take out an FBS school to put in an FCS school?

          I think who this is really appealing to is all those people who want to recreate their high schools and put them into the game to win NCAA championships. Or others who want to create "dream teams." I'm sorry but this is why I could care less about CAS. I thought the NCAA franchise was all about moving closer to SIM not away from it. I am not really enthusiastic about creating the Motown Mutts or anything fake like that.

          Forget CAS, when are we going to hear some news about major presentation upgrades?
          If we could have used this to get FCS school in dynasties great but if it works like it seems it does its pointless and very un-sim. Problem is they have never said there goal was going sim. That was Ian and Madden crew who vowed to go sim us NCAA fans get pointless stuff like Season Showdown and CAS that require you to remove a school fbs in a real conference just to add an extra school this is dumb! Sorry nobody can say this is sim it just isnt. It might be fun for a lot of you but far from sim. I dont understand how hardcore gamers can scream bloody murder over cheese play not being sim then ask for CAS when its done in this fashion! *SMH*
          You looking at the Chair MAN!

          Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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          • Solidice
            Guns Up!
            • Jul 2006
            • 9825

            #65
            Re: Official Teambuilder News

            Originally posted by da ThRONe
            If we could have used this to get FCS school in dynasties great but if it works like it seems it does its pointless and very un-sim. Problem is they have never said there goal was going sim. That was Ian and Madden crew who vowed to go sim us NCAA fans get pointless stuff like Season Showdown and CAS that require you to remove a school fbs in a real conference just to add an extra school this is dumb! Sorry nobody can say this is sim it just isnt. It might be fun for a lot of you but far from sim. I dont understand how hardcore gamers can scream bloody murder over cheese play not being sim then ask for CAS when its done in this fashion! *SMH*
            I think your taking the term "sim" too far.

            and how can you compare "cheese" to CAS? one is a feature, the other is a gameplay thing. how can you play the game in third person and say it's "sim"?

            I guess all the people that play APF2k8 are non-sim players too?
            College Football 25 Team Information Spreadsheet

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            My CFB 25 Dynasty Youtube playlist(full games, no commentary)

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            • da ThRONe
              Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
              • Mar 2009
              • 8557

              #66
              Re: Official Teambuilder News

              Originally posted by Solidice
              I think your taking the term "sim" too far.

              and how can you compare "cheese" to CAS? one is a feature, the other is a gameplay thing. how can you play the game in third person and say it's "sim"?

              I guess all the people that play APF2k8 are non-sim players too?
              I guess its all about your opinion but I just think this was a waste of space if you cant add FCS schools without removing any FBS school. I dont want any half-***ed features. And a lot of them seem to be incomplete.
              You looking at the Chair MAN!

              Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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              • JerseySuave4
                Banned
                • Mar 2006
                • 5176

                #67
                Re: Official Teambuilder News

                Originally posted by Solidice
                I think your taking the term "sim" too far.

                and how can you compare "cheese" to CAS? one is a feature, the other is a gameplay thing. how can you play the game in third person and say it's "sim"?

                I guess all the people that play APF2k8 are non-sim players too?
                i agree. Create a school has nothing to do with a game being sim or arcade, the gameplay does.

                Its not like your forced to use create a school so if you dont like the feature or think by using it that its fake football then you dont have to use it. A game being sim means that the gameplay is realistic, the presentation is realistic.

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                • GigemAGGIES13
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 206

                  #68
                  Re: Official Teambuilder News

                  It'll probably work in the same fashion as before...subbing your CAS in for a current Division I team. While I doubt it will exist, I'd like to have the option to sub a handful of CAS (Division II) in for those West/South/Midwest filler teams. That way we could at least play legitimate schools even if their stats and rosters are static.
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                  • Wet Bandit
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 1748

                    #69
                    Re: Official Teambuilder News

                    Originally posted by 2krules
                    I agree with you. This CAS feature adds to the game; it takes nothing away.

                    If people don't want CAS, they don't have to use it. I don't see the problem here.
                    Opportunity cost.

                    The NCAA team has a finite amount of resources. They've obviously chosen to dedicate a number of those resources to Teambuilder. By doing so, they no longer have those resources to use on something else.

                    In other words, doing Teambuilder has cost them the opportunity to do something else. That's the opportunity cost.

                    So yeah, there's certainly valid criticisms coming from people who would rather have something else. But that's also unavoidable, considering everyone prioritizes things differently.

                    Personally, I'm not sure I'll use it. I used it on the PS2, but since then I've grown to like taking a different mid-level school each year and building them up. I'll have to wait and see how good the implementation is.

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                    • JerseySuave4
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 5176

                      #70
                      Re: Official Teambuilder News

                      Originally posted by da ThRONe
                      I guess its all about your opinion but I just think this was a waste of space if you cant add FCS schools without removing any FBS school. I dont want any half-***ed features. And a lot of them seem to be incomplete.
                      its not half-assed. In division 1a football (i dont use FBS & FCS terms since we know its really aa and a), there are 120 teams. If they allowed you to just add teams and turn it into lets say 130 teams, then it screws up everything else because of schedules.

                      So lets say you want to add JMU (your created school) to the 120 teams so now you have 121 teams. Well have do you go about creating a schedule for that 1 extra team? You would have to rearange the schedule for the other 120 teams as well.

                      Its funny that you guys talk about how its not sim that people create non real schools but have no problem wanting to add your teams to division 1a without replacing a team so theres more teams than are really in division 1a.

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                      • moylan1234
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 4021

                        #71
                        Re: Official Teambuilder News

                        Originally posted by Wet Bandit
                        Opportunity cost.

                        The NCAA team has a finite amount of resources. They've obviously chosen to dedicate a number of those resources to Teambuilder. By doing so, they no longer have those resources to use on something else.

                        In other words, doing Teambuilder has cost them the opportunity to do something else. That's the opportunity cost.

                        So yeah, there's certainly valid criticisms coming from people who would rather have something else. But that's also unavoidable, considering everyone prioritizes things differently.

                        Personally, I'm not sure I'll use it. I used it on the PS2, but since then I've grown to like taking a different mid-level school each year and building them up. I'll have to wait and see how good the implementation is.
                        but it was a huge request from the community so it makes sense to make it good. also they have a big team working on the game so I don't think it took as much away from other areas as you think

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                        • Wet Bandit
                          MVP
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 1748

                          #72
                          Re: Official Teambuilder News

                          Originally posted by moylan55
                          but it was a huge request from the community so it makes sense to make it good. also they have a big team working on the game so I don't think it took as much away from other areas as you think
                          Oh, I'm not saying it wasn't a good idea to put it in. I was just responding to the idea that this takes nothing away from the game since people can just ignore it so it can't really be criticized.

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                          • Solidice
                            Guns Up!
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 9825

                            #73
                            Re: Official Teambuilder News

                            Originally posted by da ThRONe
                            I guess its all about your opinion but I just think this was a waste of space if you cant add FCS schools without removing any FBS school. I dont want any half-***ed features. And a lot of them seem to be incomplete.
                            I don't think it's a waste of space, but I do agree I wish you could add teams without taking out FBS teams.

                            I would hope at the very least, we could replace the generic FCS regional team with created ones, but that doesn't seem likely. just flat out adding new teams would cause havoc on the schedules in the game and would make the schedule unreal.
                            College Football 25 Team Information Spreadsheet

                            My CFB 25 Dynasty Spreadsheet
                            My CFB 25 Dynasty Youtube playlist(full games, no commentary)

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                            • da ThRONe
                              Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 8557

                              #74
                              Re: Official Teambuilder News

                              Originally posted by JerseySuave4
                              its not half-assed. In division 1a football (i dont use FBS & FCS terms since we know its really aa and a), there are 120 teams. If they allowed you to just add teams and turn it into lets say 130 teams, then it screws up everything else because of schedules.

                              So lets say you want to add JMU (your created school) to the 120 teams so now you have 121 teams. Well have do you go about creating a schedule for that 1 extra team? You would have to rearange the schedule for the other 120 teams as well.

                              Its funny that you guys talk about how its not sim that people create non real schools but have no problem wanting to add your teams to division 1a without replacing a team so theres more teams than are really in division 1a.
                              I dont wanna play Div 2 Southwest. I wanna play a real team. It is half-***ed when you have to remove a team in FBS to add some other school that doesnt play in FBS IRL which is my point. If they havent found a way to do it right then they should have left it off. If you cant make it so these team cant be FCS school in dynasties then leave it off. So the number of FBS schools still stay at 120 and whatever extra teams go into FCS pool.
                              You looking at the Chair MAN!

                              Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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                              • mjussawalla
                                Pro
                                • May 2008
                                • 776

                                #75
                                Re: Official Teambuilder News

                                Originally posted by Solidice

                                I would hope at the very least, we could replace the generic FCS regional team with created ones, but that doesn't seem likely. just flat out adding new teams would cause havoc on the schedules in the game and would make the schedule unreal.
                                I thought this was the whole point of adding FCS Schools. Otherwise it is only useful in Play Now mode.

                                The schedules shouldn't be affected if you swap out FCS Southeast with let's say App State since the schedule for FCS Southeast never mattered in the first place. They were just dummy teams you play against in your schedule.

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