Madden NFL 10 Trailer

[Megatron2k7]

Re: Madden 10 Trailer impressions

Damn....!!! I was a little late to the party, so I read through all the pages of this thread.

For me... the trailer was good enough to satisfy me for now. The positives were good enough to overcome the negatives because I expected negatives from what Ian said about the trailer before it was even shown. (damn that was a long sentence....lol)

Too many of you are in this thread bashing the entire game, based on one early trailer. This is nonsense. We have people in here like Adembroski and Kane who actually played an early version of the game and said the trailer doesn't do the game justice. Do you guys suddenly not trust them anymore, or what...????

The trailer was made for a TV audience and everything on it happened pretty fast. It's main purpose is to encite some early hype about the game. They wanted to show off some new features and improvements.... and from what I saw, the trailer did it's job.

We saw a D-Lineman rushing around the corner with the Tackle staying with him and pushing him to the ground. (O-Line / D-Line interaction)

We saw Warner get hit when he threw and he didn't go into the old "tuck" animation from last year.

We saw fighting for the fumble.

We saw better WR / DB interaction.

We saw the awesome gang tackling.

We saw new catching animations.

We saw Parker "fight for every yard." And team members trying to push the pile.

I know there is more that I'm missing, but the point is that you should watch the trailer trying to keep in mind of what they are trying to show when you see it. For all we know, they were playing on Rookie level just to get Parker to break those tackles to show on the trailer. It's meant to look like a highlight reel....not game footage. Looking at all the players in the backround when they are not the focus of what's being shown is being to critical at this point. Save that for when we get an actual video of gameplay footage in one of Ian's blogs.

Sorry for the long post. I've thought of so many things while reading through this entier thread that everything I just typed probably just came out as gibberish....lol. It's late.... I'm tired.

[Bgamer90]

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Not just the video, but from just general information that we've seen from the latest blogs and posts from the developers.

FYI what has been said in the blogs so far have been considered to be "small features".

There's much more news to come regarding much bigger things...

[Derrville]

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Off topic.

Did anyone of you happen to catch the NCAA 10 trailer today? In my opinion, it looked better than the Madden trailer. The animations felt slightly more fluid. If you haven't seen it, check it out.

I just saw it, and wow, looks leaps and bounds better than what we saw tonight, which is weird cause NCAA has been getting bashed for a very long time now.


Looks fantastic, if i saw that with Madden i would have went out and pre ordered tomorrow. Theres still some tiny things that stuck out but it looks fantastic.

I think alot of what hurt the debut tonight was the way it was presented, the music and such didnt give off a vibe that it was a NFL game, But NCAA music was perfect, the shots of cheerleaders really gave off that college football vibe and some animations were just WOW. Loved it.

[NFLHITMAN]

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</td> <td style="background-image: url(/vBulletin/images/quotes/00.gif); width: 100%; height: 1px;" width="100%"> Just wanted to drop in and say hello from my hotel in NYC. Long day today - up early and demo'ed Madden 10 to a TON of press people from 10 to 4. It was good to meet a lot of folks I hadn't really talked to much before like Brian Ekberg from Gamespot, PastaPadre, and Chris from NCAA Strategies (and many many more people that I will have to check back in my contact list to remember their names). The game showed pretty well (I believe) - we are holding a ton of stuff back until E3 so I felt really hamstrung with what we could show today, but just the PRO-TAK tech alone really wowed a ton of people...so that was encouraging. After an event like this it's a good reminder to all the tuning we still have to do as a few things were still 'cringe-worthy' (as I call them), but all in all I think the reactions were quite positive even we were showing what I believe was an extremely limited demo.

Speaking of PRO-TAK, it is going to be on display in the video on GTTV tonight, so I can't wait for you guys to see it. I am dead for tonight and have a ton of stuff booked tomorrow so I don't know if I'll be on after the video displays, but I look forward to you all picking apart everything as usual and finding the good and bad. You'll see some stuff that you don't like I'm sure (I know I did), but I really hope you get a bit of a surprise when you see PRO-TAK on full display. Looking forward to the impressions...

Peace out - see you in a few days.
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The good.......

• Gang Tackling
  
• OL/DL Interaction is good but not great
• On field Refs

The Bad.........

• It seems like the center for both teams was in no mans land every time.
• That was either a poor trailer by GT or the graphics were not that great at all.
• Throwing Motion was robotic
• Player movement was robotic and stiff as a board.
  
• Player movement was same as Madden 09 IMO
• Defensive Backs like the double team on Fitz was not even looking at him.
• There was no pocket formed at all from what I seen.
• The same branching tackle animation in Madden 10 as was in 09. When you see a finesse back like Willie Parker move a pile and break out of 2 players doubling up on a tackle is pathetic. No wonder Ian got 300+ yards with Brandon Jacobs when he played.
• Seemed like the refs was getting knocked down every play. You hardly ever see this in the NFL.
• The towels were not animated to sway as the player moves.
• The player models looked horrible with there arms, helmets, face mask, and more.

Think about what you just saw and ask yourself this question....

If I was going to make a game and put a trailer of that game on a national exclusive would I want the best my new game has to offer in that trailer? The answer for everyone would be yes.

Now answer this.....

If that is the best that Madden 10 has to offer than how can you be happy with the product?

Please take the time to compare that video with a game who has already perfected it. I want Madden 10 to be GREAT so I can have fun again so please don't take this as a ***** post.

Do I like the video of Madden 10? No, But I would love to see a better game trailer soon!

Madden 10.........

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Now lets compare to the APF videos I made for Ian to look at....

How a QB Drop can look in a Football Video game....

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QB Droback, Run & Chuck in APF and how the Shoulders need to be square, Feet Planted, and when throwing deep how he must wind up to make the pass....

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OL / DL Interaction the way it should be or better.....

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[oldskoolmaddenfanz27]

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I did not want Madden 09 with fixed issues and added gameplay threads. Madden 09 was terrible, it can only be improved upon so much in 1 year.

[Brandon_c993]

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Damn....!!! I was a little late to the party, so I read through all the pages of this thread.

For me... the trailer was good enough to satisfy me for now. The positives were good enough to overcome the negatives because I expected negatives from what Ian said about the trailer before it was even shown. (damn that was a long sentence....lol)

Too many of you are in this thread bashing the entire game, based on one early trailer. This is nonsense. We have people in here like Adembroski and Kane who actually played an early version of the game and said the trailer doesn't do the game justice. Do you guys suddenly not trust them anymore, or what...????

The trailer was made for a TV audience and everything on it happened pretty fast. It's main purpose is to encite some early hype about the game. They wanted to show off some new features and improvements.... and from what I saw, the trailer did it's job.

We saw a D-Lineman rushing around the corner with the Tackle staying with him and pushing him to the ground. (O-Line / D-Line interaction)

We saw Warner get hit when he threw and he didn't go into the old "tuck" animation from last year.

We saw fighting for the fumble.

We saw better WR / DB interaction.

We saw the awesome gang tackling.

We saw new catching animations.

We saw Parker "fight for every yard." And team members trying to push the pile.

I know there is more that I'm missing, but the point is that you should watch the trailer trying to keep in mind of what they are trying to show when you see it. For all we know, they were playing on Rookie level just to get Parker to break those tackles to show on the trailer. It's meant to look like a highlight reel....not game footage. Looking at all the players in the backround when they are not the focus of what's being shown is being to critical at this point. Save that for when we get an actual video of gameplay footage in one of Ian's blogs.

Sorry for the long post. I've thought of so many things while reading through this entier thread that everything I just typed probably just came out as gibberish....lol. It's late.... I'm tired.

Are you reading my mind?????

[jp7588]

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Agreed. I think that the NCAA trailer had a better montage. And is it me or does the running animations look better in that trailer? Could it be the year where NCAA's animations are better than Madden's?

I thought the whole thing was smooth. The only things that irked me were when the USC guy got upended by the Cal guy when he went up for a pass and when the USC guy "hit sticked" the Cal guy forcing the fumble. I hate those animations. All in all I think they did a great job of showing off all the little things that I've been hoping will make these games better like the layered blending, procedural awareness, and the wr/db interaction.

For the first time this year I think the NCAA guys have outdone the Madden guys. Hopefully Ian and the gang will make me eat those words soon. = p

[NYGmen56]

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Is anyone else mildly depressed at all this?

lol

yeah.. unfortunely, especially since im a hardcore football gamer..

[Brandon_c993]

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I did not want Madden 09 with fixed issues and added gameplay threads. Madden 09 was terrible, it can only be improved upon so much in 1 year.

Yes!!! lol 2 people are reading my mind....
People were expecting the best Madden ever or the best football game ever...and that is just not realistic...like I said in a previous post I will be happy if it is the best in recent years....

[judgejudy]

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For you, maybe. I don't know if this trailer was made before or after community day.

Not to say they'd purposefully take out what was good about it, just saying I hope they didn't hit obstacles that'll make for a lesser product come August.

i would say it was definitely before, because the first few steelers/cardinals screenshots appear to be from the game they showcased in the trailer.

all in all, i'd say the trailer was pretty underwhelming, but i'm glad because it will make the announcements further down the road that much better and it helps make the wait until august that much more bearable.

[burne]

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Off topic.

Did anyone of you happen to catch the NCAA 10 trailer today? In my opinion, it looked better than the Madden trailer. The animations felt slightly more fluid. If you haven't seen it, check it out.

+1

Not that off-topic, actually. I think that a lot of the good stuff from the NCAA trailer will be in Madden (new animations, etc). Going by what's been said here, I think that there's some consensus that this trailer wasn't really made with us in mind, the termites who'll tear it apart.

My favorite parts of that trailer:
1) 0:28 - Texas #12 QB's throw animation (but I'm pretty sure that's because you can only see his upper body lol).

2) 0:22 - The jostling with Florida's #16 and his subsequent desperate reach animation where he can't reach the ball. One of my favorite anim's in APF2k8 was when a ball was too far out in front of a receiver and they just stuck out a futile arm in the ball's direction.

3) 0:34 - The #6 receiver from Wisconsin (?) catching that ball, then getting tackled by a clear facemask animation, and asking for a facemask flag when he gets up.

4) 0:53 - Penn State #82 making an impressive catch with his arms over a LB. It seems like it'd be a great "WOW" moment during a game and the LB seems to have been in poor position and made a poor play on the ball (not to mention didn't magically go from deflection attempt animation to tackle animation once the ball was caught).

FUGLY MOMENT:
1:09 - The animation by which USC #8 is tackled after he catches the ball. God I hated all that crap that year that they added the mid-air collision animations. They look awful.

[g2thecore]

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I just saw it, and wow, looks leaps and bounds better than what we saw tonight, which is weird cause NCAA has been getting bashed for a very long time now.


Looks fantastic, if i saw that with Madden i would have went out and pre ordered tomorrow. Theres still some tiny things that stuck out but it looks fantastic.

I think alot of what hurt the debut tonight was the way it was presented, the music and such didnt give off a vibe that it was a NFL game, But NCAA music was perfect, the shots of cheerleaders really gave off that college football vibe and some animations were just WOW. Loved it.

I couldn't agree more. I'm actually going to pre-order my NCAA copy over the weekend. The trailer was very impressive as far as showcasing the different animations, fluidity and procedural awareness.

I sure hope the Madden guys go back to the "lab" and try to 1 up the NCAA guys with a far more impressive trailer. So far I have the score as 1-0, in favor of NCAA 10. Just sayin'.

[sportzbro]

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I couldn't agree more. I'm actually going to pre-order my NCAA copy over the weekend. The trailer was very impressive as far as showcasing the different animations, fluidity and procedural awareness.

I sure hope the Madden guys go back to the "lab" and try to 1 up the NCAA guys with a far more impressive trailer. So far I have the score as 1-0, in favor of NCAA 10. Just sayin'.

I would say its pretty even now...the madden guys were killin it with all the info, but the NCAA trailer was the equalizer.

[g2thecore]

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+1

Not that off-topic, actually. I think that a lot of the good stuff from the NCAA trailer will be in Madden (new animations, etc). Going by what's been said here, I think that there's some consensus that this trailer wasn't really made with us in mind, the termites who'll tear it apart.

My favorite parts of that trailer:
1) 0:28 - Texas #12 QB's throw animation (but I'm pretty sure that's because you can only see his upper body lol).

2) 0:22 - The jostling with Florida's #16 and his subsequent desperate reach animation where he can't reach the ball. One of my favorite anim's in APF2k8 was when a ball was too far out in front of a receiver and they just stuck out a futile arm in the ball's direction.

3) 0:34 - The #6 receiver from Wisconsin (?) catching that ball, then getting tackled by a clear facemask animation, and asking for a facemask flag when he gets up.

4) 0:53 - Penn State #82 making an impressive catch with his arms over a LB. It seems like it'd be a great "WOW" moment during a game and the LB seems to have been in poor position and made a poor play on the ball (not to mention didn't magically go from deflection attempt animation to tackle animation once the ball was caught).

FUGLY MOMENT:
1:09 - The animation by which USC #8 is tackled after he catches the ball. God I hated all that crap that year that they added the mid-air collision animations. They look awful.

Nice breakdown....I agree with everything you commented on. I've watched the trailer a couple of times, and the more I watch the more I'm impressed. I wish I could say the same about the Madden display tonight.

[g2thecore]

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I would say its pretty even now...the madden guys were killin it with all the info, but the NCAA trailer was the equalizer.

Agreed....But I meant more like a battle of the trailers....If we're going trailer for trailer......I like my score better...:wink: