Madden NFL 10: Top Ten Position Ratings (Gamespot)

[jbooc13]

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rivers played better than all the qbs if u take away those horrible fumbles.dhall should not be destroyed by that degrading rating he should be a 76

[SHO]

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i dissagree with kurt warner he had boldin and fitz to throw to no wonder why he had a good season.
he should be rated no higher then a 85
fact

also im hoping in franchise mode players can accel and decel by 17+ or 17- points for the next season this means players that had great seasons go up while ones with bad seasons go down

Dead that nonsense. The Cardinals offense doesn't go without Warner. Point blank. He's not exactly a game manager. He's a great QB on his own right and should be around that rating.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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Honestly, I don't see what the big deal is about so and so being 1 point higher than whoever. 1 point isnt gonna make that big of a difference. Give these guys a break, jeez. The only things that I didn't agree with was Welker being above Calvin and Marshall, and Deangelo being so high after one year.

[Nilsen31]

remember they changed how ratings work, there are very few 95+ players now...an average starting LB will no longer be around an 80-85, he'll be around 65-75. 84 for Torry Holt sounds about right...he's no longer elite (90+) he could still use a couple points maybe, but so far the ratings seem OK...way to early tho.

[Jukeman]

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Re: Warner

How many years have both Boldin and Fitz been with ARI? Didnt they even have Johnson too?

Name 1 qb who had a good season as a Card before Warner......Nuff said


Ratings are good, yea they are kinda high for some players but it seem like they jyst looked at last year instead of careers so im ok with that...Roster updates will eventually fix it

[kcarr]

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remember they changed how ratings work, there are very few 95+ players now...an average starting LB will no longer be around an 80-85, he'll be around 65-75. 84 for Torry Holt sounds about right...he's no longer elite (90+) he could still use a couple points maybe, but so far the ratings seem OK...way to early tho.

I wouldnt exactly call 50 very few but ok

[da ThRONe]

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Re: Warner

How many years have both Boldin and Fitz been with ARI? Didnt they even have Johnson too?

Name 1 qb who had a good season as a Card before Warner......Nuff said


Ratings are good, yea they are kinda high for some players but it seem like they jyst looked at last year instead of careers so im ok with that...Roster updates will eventually fix it

Just because you fit well into a system doesnt make you elite! Look at Kerry Collins and Chad Pennington when in the right offense they can look like hall of famers but that doesnt mean they are.

[Jukeman]

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Just because you fit well into a system doesnt make you elite! Look at Kerry Collins and Chad Pennington when in the right offense they can look like hall of famers but that doesnt mean they are.

????

The NFL is based off schemes and systems.......

Never called him elite....

He is better than Big Ben(loved him since college) and McNabb(loved him since college)

For a QB who throws the ball more than anyone, he does a pretty damn good job....

[da ThRONe]

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????

The NFL is based off schemes and systems.......

Never called him elite....

He is better than Big Ben(loved him since college) and McNabb(loved him since college)

For a QB who throws the ball more than anyone, he does a pretty damn good job....

You think Warner is better then McNabb? And they say my ratings are crazy. There is no way hes better than Mc5 no way. Warner isnt that talented and has only produced with elite talent at the wideouts.

[Jukeman]

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Just because you fit well into a system doesnt make you elite! Look at Kerry Collins and Chad Pennington when in the right offense they can look like hall of famers but that doesnt mean they are.

????

The NFL is based off schemes and systems.......

Never called him elite....

He is better than Big Ben(loved him since college,but he doesnt tgrow as much) and McNabb(loved him since college, but he think he's playing frizby with his ankle passes)

For a QB who throws the ball more than anyone, Warner does a pretty damn good job making plays...

[kcarr]

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If you guys are thinking about all the guys rated 95+i have no problem with the elite being elite as long as system players are just that. If you think about it 50 players that are 95+ is not really ridiculous considering there are 53 players on each team and there are 32 teams that means there are still 1,696 guys on rosters who are not elite level players and also there will be those guys available in free agency that are not elite so 50 players is not bad at all.

That means that 3% of players on active rosters are above 95 overall. If the lowest overalls are even as low as 30, that is putting 3% of the league in the top 7% of ratings. This seems alright when you first look at it, but really it should follow more of a bell curve with the largest portion of players by far fitting into the middle portion of the ratings. I really think it should fit somewhere around the following list:

30-35, 1%
36-41 3%
42-47 10%
48-64 15%
65-71 21%
72-78 21%
79-84 15%
85-90 10%
91+95 3%
96+ 1%

That means in that 10 category you would have around 16 players, near 50 in the next, around 5 or 6 per team in the next so an average team should have around 7 or 8 players above 85. That makes around 237 players in that 85+ area. There are what, 100 or so pro bowlers every year plus some who should go or some who decline. These players and those others in contention for those slots should go in this area.

The 79-84 area should be pretty much all starters or at least players who would start on most teams and can be solid starters. By here you have about 15 players per team (including all levels mentioned so far) so good teams with a lot of depth like pitt or NE might have 20 or 25 players in this area. Teams like detroit however will bring it back down to average by only having maybe 4 or 5.

The next 2 areas should be the bulk of most teams. The top half of these should be your average starters. An average team should have 26 or 27 players at this level or better meaning their starting lineups should be filled out with a quality backup or two. The bottom half of this are players who are considered weaknesses as starters but can include players who can contribute sensationally due to a unique skill set or who can be solid backups and fill in.

The bottom few groups are guys who probably should never start and if they see any time it is because of injuries or because they have a special skill set that allows them to make an impact. These guys will generally play special teams and fill out your roster. Most late round picks will fall into this area but some should have the potential to move out of this range.

[marcoyk]

is it just a coincidence that 3/5 of the biggest shakers were on the redskins. I'm a redskins fan and i agree that devin thomas should go down, but deangelo hall went down to below 70?!?!?! a little extreme there. and fred smoot didn't have a bad year last year.

[kcarr]

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kcarr point well taken all i am saying is 3% in the game isnt bad. At the same time i agree with you that the majority of the players should be in the middle of the pack as in real life, there more than 16 players who can completely alter a game and if you put a limit on how many of those players are aroud then you take away from the game as a whole and what those special players bring to it.

Yes, there are more than 16 players who can completely alter a game. How many are expected to do that week in and week out though? Anyone over 85 should be able to really change a game. There are even people in the lower ratings who can. I see sproles for instance able to change a game despite what should be a pretty low overall.

[ballaspence9493]

i'm surprised cassel is only an 83...

also, ya, if slaton was 97, i wouldnt buy the game. lol. jk, id jus change his overall to 50

[AC IS ART]

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is it just a coincidence that 3/5 of the biggest shakers were on the redskins. I'm a redskins fan and i agree that devin thomas should go down, but deangelo hall went down to below 70?!?!?! a little extreme there. and fred smoot didn't have a bad year last year.

Exactly, I'm starting to wonder if they watch Redskins game tape or go off of what ESPN/Media says. DeAngelo Hall was bad with Oakland, but he clearly was the other top corner on the Redskins (minus Rogers). To have our starting corner lower than our nickel (Smoot) is ridiculous...to have him lower than these unproven rookies (Jenkins, Davis, Butler, Alphonso, Smith, McBath,etc.) is asinine !