Madden NFL 10 Blog: Letting the "Wildcat" Loose

**Ian_Cummings** · 04-27-2009, 09:30 PM

Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: Letting the "Wildcat" Loose

Originally posted by Valdarez

Thanks. The thing that worries me about those instant turns is that one of the items that I consistently see in Madden '09 by the defense when they make unrealistic INTs. There's an instant turn, followed by a jump in the air, and then a float to the ball for the pick. When I see the instant turns it makes me concerned that the issues in the defensive coverage might not be addressed properly, which would greatly affect the passing game.

On a side note, can you give us a break down of the videos that were played at the normal game speed, and which ones were slowed down during the replay so we can get a better feel for the game speed?

All of those were played at the 'default' game speed which is about 94%-95% of last year's speed.

**Megatron2k7** · 04-27-2009, 09:30 PM

Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: Letting the "Wildcat" Loose

Nice blog again..... Thank you Ian and co. I wasn't dissapointed with any of it really. Ian does such a good job of shedding light on what to expect from the vids, that I will keep my critical eyes in check until the day he says it's a vid that shows a more finished product.

I'm looking forward to stopping the Wildcat....... not using it on offense. I know a lot of my friends are going to be using this a lot. I can't wait to find some nice Defenses / shifts / audibles, to blow this baby up...!!! The frustration on my friends faces when they think they have unstoppable plays is priceless when they're shut down....LOL. Can't wait.

If the Packers start using it (which I doubt) then I'd use it a little. There is a slight chance, I guess....... I've seen highlights of WR Jordy Nelson throwing the ball quite a bit on trick plays back at Kansas State. He played QB in highschool and throws a good ball.

I've never heard any reports out of Green Bay about them even considering it.... so for now..... my focus will be on stopping it. It's gonna be a blast.

**dave374** · 04-27-2009, 09:33 PM

Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: Letting the "Wildcat" Loose

Originally posted by Ian_Cummings_EA

I really got to see Adaptive AI in action today because I was running this play over and over and over again (with 'always on first down' set) until I could get a good video example, and sure enough they started shutting me down in the backfield with all these crazy shifts and blitzes. I was actually quite surprised (and had to re-boot

).

How quickly did the D adapt?

**totalownership** · 04-27-2009, 09:37 PM

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In reality the D should be reacting very quickly since the wildcat was used to death last season to the point that it barely worked anymore.

**Ian_Cummings** · 04-27-2009, 09:39 PM

Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: Letting the "Wildcat" Loose

Originally posted by dave374

How quickly did the D adapt?

I was on all-pro, on the 3rd time in a row they shifted to the side I was running to, 4th time they brought an extra blitzer to that side, 5th time (plus every subsequent time) I was getting dropped in the backfield.

**Lava** · 04-27-2009, 09:40 PM

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What difficulty were those vids on Ian?

**dave374** · 04-27-2009, 09:40 PM

Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: Letting the "Wildcat" Loose

Originally posted by Ian_Cummings_EA

I was on all-pro, on the 3rd time in a row they shifted to the side I was running to, 4th time they brought an extra blitzer to that side, 5th time (plus every subsequent time) I was getting dropped in the backfield.

Promising.
I think adaptive AI is gonna be one of those things that needs two or three years tuning before you guys get it right.

**Obelysk** · 04-27-2009, 09:42 PM

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For the Patriots can you guys add that direct snap to Faulk for the Patriots? We use it very often:

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80b69718

**Droopy03** · 04-27-2009, 09:44 PM

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Originally posted by Ian_Cummings_EA

I was on all-pro, on the 3rd time in a row they shifted to the side I was running to, 4th time they brought an extra blitzer to that side, 5th time (plus every subsequent time) I was getting dropped in the backfield.

Ian are we going to do moe with the 3-4 defense this year? like will there be DE/LB coming out of the draft? Will the depth chart positions change for a 3-4 defense like instead of just MLB will ther be WILB (weak inside linebacker) or SILB (strong inside linebacker) and instead of DT will it be NT. Also instead of DE will it be LDT(for left sefensive tackle) and RDT (right defensive tackle). The reason why I say this is because ecah position has different attributes need to play the position.

Great work so far as well.

**tennesseetitans** · 04-27-2009, 09:49 PM

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First of all the videos, for the most part look great. It's scope was limited, but the 2nd video was perhaps the best I've ever seen Madden look.

However, I did find some minor issues with the final video, regarding the defense. The initial edge rusher ran the tackle well past Pat White. Maybe he was overpowered, but I'd like to try and seem him plant or at least reach out and grab jersey. Maybe if White had been in a sprint, his movement to get to the outside would've been more appropriate, but at some point, he has to collapse inside. Furthermore, he obviously has leverage (he has turned the tackles shoulders), and could easily for him to contain that lane. Even if he had bought the fake, he wouldn't have taken that outside angle.

I play a little defensive end (anywhere else in the front 7 for that matter) at my high school, and if I were to do that next to our sideline (run right past the ball carrier), I would get chewed out in a bad way. This is the NFL. I could see this happening occasionally in a high school game, but such unawarenss/lack of body control. would be very rare in the NFL. I'm sure any edge rusher at that level would have the awareness to at least make an effort to come back inside.

Finally, I felt that Harris did not make a sufficient effort to cut him off. He was easily in tackling range, but just sort of ran along side him. I'd like to see him try and cut him off instead of letting him get in untouched.

**g2thecore** · 04-27-2009, 10:00 PM

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Ian, just a side note.

Were those the new running animations that Simon worked on or were these the same as before? Just curious, thanks.

**Valdarez** · 04-27-2009, 10:12 PM

Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: Letting the "Wildcat" Loose

Originally posted by Ian_Cummings_EA

All of those were played at the 'default' game speed which is about 94%-95% of last year's speed.

Weird, the game speed looked good on all but #3 to me. For some reason it looked faster. Maybe the side to side movement?

**Valdarez** · 04-27-2009, 10:13 PM

Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: Letting the "Wildcat" Loose

Originally posted by g2thecore

Ian, just a side note.

Were those the new running animations that Simon worked on or were these the same as before? Just curious, thanks.

Those were the same as before. You can especially tell by looking at the Guards movements when they pull.

**kcarr** · 04-27-2009, 10:16 PM

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Originally posted by Bgamer90

One more question, how fast will the CPU adjust to someone using wildcat?

This, and will they make on field adjustments as soon as they see the change to a quicker QB? They really should atleast react to it somewhat at this point especially if they are high awareness teams or teams with good leaders on the field. Sure they can't make the actual play call or personel adjustments but CPU teams with that real leader of a LB or safety or whatever should adjust somewhat.

**Ian_Cummings** · 04-27-2009, 10:23 PM

Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: Letting the "Wildcat" Loose

Originally posted by g2thecore

Ian, just a side note.

Were those the new running animations that Simon worked on or were these the same as before? Just curious, thanks.

The non-ballcarriers haven't been updated yet.

As for the ballcarrier, there are multiple 'run styles' in the game. The cycle used by Williams and Brown is the 'base' run style for relatively agile/fast players. The base style was tweaked quite a bit from last year by Simon - the requests came mainly from me (and you guys) - bringing the arm holding the ball in tighter, adding more shoulder movement, and adding more 'urgency'. This base style is what is used in the ANT videos.

Here's what it looked like last year FWIW:

Madden NFL 10 Blog: Letting the "Wildcat" Loose

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