Madden NFL 10 Full Rookie Ratings File

[feeq14]

Re: All Rookie Ratings

I dont konw about you guys, but these ratings in my opinion dont conform to what i remembe beng a rethought ratings scale. I still se some guys with ratings that are a bit out of order or a bit too high.

Perfect example is leasean McCoy. He was considered the slowest RB out the bunch and didnt run well at all in the offseason but he has a 92 in spd. All of the top DEs have 80 in spd even though most of them were not considered edge rusher types. Maybin and English were widely considered the most explosive rush ends. The only Ends with over 80 spd should prolly be Micheal Johnson and Maybin.

It does seem to be in effect for corners and WRs though. However their route running and coverage stats seem a bit skewed.

Overall i think these ratings need a lot of work, or i will be doing a lot of teaking

[R9NALD9]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Full Rookie Ratings File

wonderfullllll...was really glad to see Michael Crabtree's overall rating being 84. So pleased the 49ers drafted him! Can't wait playing with the 49ers in madden 10.

[TheTodd84]

someone on here said that Donny Moore has said "137 times" that 40-yard dash is not the only thing that goes into speed... what kind of logic is this? the 40-yard dash is used to measure LONG SPEED. There is NO OTHER GAUGE of long speed than the 40-yard dash, other than the 100-yard dash.

So what is Donny Moore using to determine speed? Because the "speed" rating should ONLY be long speed. That's why there is an acceleration rating to determine how QUICK guys are that do not necessarily have great long speed. And for a running back, that is usually better.

So whoever earlier complained about Tiquan Underwood, who ran one of the fastest 40s of all the receivers having the same speed rating as Chris Wells has a legit gripe. Wells is fast enough, but he is by NO means even within 10 yards of Tiquan in any sort of race down the field.

So I dunno what Donny uses to determine speed ratings, but it is way off. The ONLY thing he should use to determine speed ratings are 40 times bc how do you measure "game speed" vs 40 speed in madden? You simply cannot.

Also, How does Jeremy Maclin who didn't run sub-4.4 in the 40 have a speed rating SEVEN POINTS higher than Tiquan Underwood, who ran a 4.34. Just doesn't make sense. Is Maclin a better receiver? Absolutely. But is he faster than Tiquan Underwood? No sir, he is not.

That's like saying, well we haven't seen Usain Bolt run on a football field yet and we dunno if he has "game speed" even though he ran a 9.6 in the 100 meters. But wait, we all know that Bolt is the fastest man EVER, so if we created him he would get a 100 speed rating, right? So why does Tiquan Underwood, who has better long speed than Maclin get a lower speed rating? Maclin may appear faster bc of better acceleration, but long speed? Nope.

[djKianoosh]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Full Rookie Ratings File

someone on here said that Donny Moore has said "137 times" that 40-yard dash is not the only thing that goes into speed... what kind of logic is this? the 40-yard dash is used to measure LONG SPEED. There is NO OTHER GAUGE of long speed than the 40-yard dash, other than the 100-yard dash.

So what is Donny Moore using to determine speed? Because the "speed" rating should ONLY be long speed. That's why there is an acceleration rating to determine how QUICK guys are that do not necessarily have great long speed. And for a running back, that is usually better.

So whoever earlier complained about Tiquan Underwood, who ran one of the fastest 40s of all the receivers having the same speed rating as Chris Wells has a legit gripe. Wells is fast enough, but he is by NO means even within 10 yards of Tiquan in any sort of race down the field.

So I dunno what Donny uses to determine speed ratings, but it is way off. The ONLY thing he should use to determine speed ratings are 40 times bc how do you measure "game speed" vs 40 speed in madden? You simply cannot.

Also, How does Jeremy Maclin who didn't run sub-4.4 in the 40 have a speed rating SEVEN POINTS higher than Tiquan Underwood, who ran a 4.34. Just doesn't make sense. Is Maclin a better receiver? Absolutely. But is he faster than Tiquan Underwood? No sir, he is not.

That's like saying, well we haven't seen Usain Bolt run on a football field yet and we dunno if he has "game speed" even though he ran a 9.6 in the 100 meters. But wait, we all know that Bolt is the fastest man EVER, so if we created him he would get a 100 speed rating, right? So why does Tiquan Underwood, who has better long speed than Maclin get a lower speed rating? Maclin may appear faster bc of better acceleration, but long speed? Nope.

just because Maclin ran a 4.45 or whatever at the combine doesn't mean that's how fast he is. in a highlight I saw of his from college the announcer clearly said he ran a 4.3... so maybe he just had a bad day at the combine. just put on the game tape. the kid is a burner and always separated himself by far. his long speed is damn fast.

[TheTodd84]

Also, Connor Barwin ran a 4.54 in the 40 yard dash and has a speed rating 5 points lower than Chris Wells despite his 40 time being .02 faster than Wells. Barwin could totally run down Wells from behind. Barwin also ran the fastest 40 time of ANY front seven player. So why is his speed rating 2 points lower than Michael Johnson, who barely ran a 4.6.

Michael might be quicker off the ball than barwin, but he is not faster than Barwin.

Also, I dunno which Louis Delmas Donny watched in College, but he should have one of the highest Hit Power ratings in the game. The dude is the hardest hitting safety in the draft and can absolutely bring the wood. Also, I know he played Free Safety in college, but he will be a Strong Safety in the NFL and they will use him like Roy Williams in Dallas bc he is a total liability in coverage.

So Delmas' coverage ratings should be lower and his tackling and hit power should be way higher. Just sayin'.

[TheTodd84]

Yeah, but again, we dunno if Maclin truly ran a 4.3 bc we dont have the stats. And remember, if he did run a 4.3, it probably wasnt officially timed like at the Combine. The combine is an EXACT 40 time bc of the tape. Maybe he did have a bad combine, but Tiquan Underwood should at least be equally as fast as Maclin bc the numbers say so. That's all I'm saying. If you put Tiquan Underwood and Maclin in a race, it would be pretty close to a dead heat.

[Maelstrom-XIII]

Re: All Rookie Ratings

I dont konw about you guys, but these ratings in my opinion dont conform to what i remembe beng a rethought ratings scale. I still se some guys with ratings that are a bit out of order or a bit too high.

Perfect example is leasean McCoy. He was considered the slowest RB out the bunch and didnt run well at all in the offseason but he has a 92 in spd. All of the top DEs have 80 in spd even though most of them were not considered edge rusher types. Maybin and English were widely considered the most explosive rush ends. The only Ends with over 80 spd should prolly be Micheal Johnson and Maybin.

It does seem to be in effect for corners and WRs though. However their route running and coverage stats seem a bit skewed.

Overall i think these ratings need a lot of work, or i will be doing a lot of teaking

Everette Brown (FSU DE drafted by Panthers) was considered a top 10 talent as a pass rusher...therefore I believe he deserves a pretty decent speed (ie 80ish).

I agree that these ratings weren't as "stretched" as I was hoping...but that might change by release.

[TheTodd84]

So Underwood should not have a speed rating SEVEN POINTS lower than Maclin. Maybe 1 or 2 points at the most. And speed ratings should be equal all around.

So for ppl like Barwin and Wells, their speed ratings should be identical. Wells should actually be slower and be an 86 speed bc he isnt THAT fast and Barwin should also be an 86. Michael Johnson should have an 84 or 83 rating bc he is at least a step slower than Barwin, but he should have better acceleration than Connor bc Connor was a TE when he first got to college, so he should have a better speed rating, but lower quickness bc of Johnson's explosiveness when the ball is snapped.

[Maelstrom-XIII]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Full Rookie Ratings File

Todd, now you are reading way too much into measurables at the combine, instead of how fast players play on the field. RBs tend to have much more breakaway speed than most linemen. Just because Barwin had coached himself into running a fast 40 doesn't mean he could keep up with Wells in the open field...maybe he could, I don't really know...but you can't say "Player A ran a 4.2, while Player B ran a 4.5...why is Player B better?" A lot goes into making the ratings...I can only imagine the film/stats Donny has to scrutinize in order to project the ratings from real life to a game with finite increments.

[billyboy316]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Full Rookie Ratings File

Can anyone tell me what the Bears rookies are rated?

Thanks

[Von Dozier]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Full Rookie Ratings File

ITT People get butthurt over their new draftees having *gasp* rookie ratings.

Listen people. Donny knows what he's doing. This is a new system. We are not the ones handing out these ratings, playtesting them, and knowing they work as they should. Donny, the guy giving these ratings and playtesting them knowing they work as they should, is.

It really just looks as if people are still used to the old Madden formula of overrated overall ratings.