Madden NFL 10 Videos (IGN)

[Valdarez]

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You're the only guy I see who says that collectively, the game looks better in replay than it does during the game.

To me, a flaw in the past couple years were that some of the tackles were "fast-fall" animations. This made it seem like there were frames missing in some of the animations. I didn't notice many of these ugly tackles in CD build I played.

I'm hard-pressed to believe that you think the EA Sports Highlight vids, which are basically replays, look better than Madden 09 in motion.

P.S. No one is entitled to a response to the devs. Add your name to the list...it's impossible for them to respond to everyone.

I notice the missing frames in the gameplay from '09, and all I can go by is the videos thus far which appear to still suffer from the same problem. I probably notice it more because I'm a hard core APF2K8 player and that game is very fluid (though no where near as detailed). Beyond the game play, the missing frames is a huge turn off for me, and IMHO the primary reason that players refer to the robotic look of the game.

I always thought Madden looked really bad, until I watched a replay, and the thing was fluid as all get out. I was baffled. I couldn't figure out how in the world it looked so solid / fluid in the replay and yet appeared to be missing frames during the game. Is it the speed, the rendering? There has to be a reason, and I hope it's something they can fix, but thus far it appears to be the same as '09 (just going off the videos).

Agree about the last part of your post, but I would like to point out that Ian has read and responded to posts that had the question in it, thus the feeling that they are ignoring and/or dodging it.

[GTheorenHobbes]

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I guess I'm the only one who wasn't blown away. Probably because I'm just tired of looking at the same ol' camera angle. There's definitely some improvements that are shown, but if I'm still stuck without any camera choices I'm unfortunately probably going to have to pass.

BTW, thanks for the link to the videos...good find!

[NYGmen56]

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My take away:

• Jerky Movements (quick snaps from one animation to another)
• Instant Turns (why???)
• Camera Angle is too far out at the start of plays (at least for me)
• Madden still looks dark (can we get some brightness???)
• Still looks like there are missing frames when the game is in motion (yet the game looks good in replay.... 2.5 weeks later, and still no answer to why this is the case)
• Nice to see passes affected by tackles (ducks)
• Pro-Tak looks really, really kewl

agree... While some things did look good, some didn't.. One huge one that bugs me was the clip where he throws the ball with big Ben like 30yds down the field and both DB's didn't even look back or jump up, they just fell down at the same time while the WR jumped up with the same ole animation and caught the ball?? That just does not look good! it look so cartoony and unrealistic..

[Valdarez]

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The video was taken before Ian made the thread here saying that they were tweaking animations (as we speak). So they are acknowledging it.

True, but that's just the running animation though, not the missing frames which seems to affect all animations.

[eDotd]

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Looking good

[SteelerSpartan]

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I think the EA guys either don't see it, don't believe us, or just refuse to acknowledge the issue with the jerky movements / missing frames during game play.

don't get me wrong I want it fixed big time. Its imperative if they want to really nail sim....physics is a must. 360 spins on a dime that result in players rocketing up the field after the ball can't be allowed to run rampart.


Ian says hes on top of it, and I think giving him until E3 is fair....if its still a problem by then, then its on:wink:

[Valdarez]

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Really one positive is all you can muster from those videos? I think your comments have been very constructive the past few days, I actually really think you've got an open mind but this post seems real nit picky to me. Everyone is entitled to their opinion however.

Actually there were two positives in there. Feel free to list more, that was just my quick take away. Outside of the gameplay, the biggest problem I have with the game is what appears to be dropped and/or missing frames. It's the one thing I have yet to see addressed. At 60FPS (which is more than the eye can see) why does it still appear that we are missing frames during game play. Something just seems off.

[ScoobySnax]

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I like when Ian said that the refs will call a play dead if there's no forward momentum. That is just awesome. I've never seen anything like that in a game before.

[NYGmen56]

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I guess I'm the only one who wasn't blown away. Probably because I'm just tired of looking at the same ol' camera angle. There's definitely some improvements that are shown, but if I'm still stuck without any camera choices I'm unfortunately probably going to have to pass.

BTW, thanks for the link to the videos...good find!

No you aren't the only one.. seriously..

I guess im just tired of seeing the some of the same ole things. I guess the best way to explain it is, while some things have improved and some new features have been added, it just still kinda feels and looks like Madden 09. I guess it's the same old game engine & animations thats killing it for me. Theres not enough life in the game... Idk..

[Jukeman]

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LOL I think you should change the thread title...I was scared to click on the thread

[hollywood21]

Re: I just creamed in my shorts!

People seem to think that this double teaming only effects 3-4 teams, but in real life hayneswort, shaun rodgers, and other really good dlinemen have played in 4 man fronts and still demanded double teams. Really without this a guy like hayneswort has either has very little value in either system because he can get locked up by one guy or is too powerful in any system because only one guy blocks him so he goes unblocked constantly.

Im a redskins fan. I know some people command double teams in a 4-3 defense. But it wouldn't be fun to play teams like the cowboys, Pats, and Ravens that run a 3-4. It wouldn't be fair.

[Derrville]

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Passing looks like it plays more like PS2 Xbox versions which is good. On layer animation, LG looked lost like past games, stuff needs to be tuned.

[wordtobigbird]

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Passing looks like it plays more like PS2 Xbox versions which is good. On layer animation, LG looked lost like past games, stuff needs to be tuned.

the left guard? he is blocking someone the whole time in that video.

[Danimal]

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Actually there were two positives in there. Feel free to list more, that was just my quick take away. Outside of the gameplay, the biggest problem I have with the game is what appears to be dropped and/or missing frames. It's the one thing I have yet to see addressed. At 60FPS (which is more than the eye can see) why does it still appear that we are missing frames during game play. Something just seems off.

Like I said everyone is entitled to their opinion, I honestly don't even notice it and I'm sure that i am not in the minority in that regard. The running animations stood out for sure, but the missing frames I just don't have that critical of an eye. The 180 degree turns are disturbing for sure as well.

I'm looking at it from a stand point of stuff that really bugged me, like some of the WWE tackles, the lack of a pass rush / pocket, good DB / WR coverage etc. I guess what I am saying if the game is missing a few frames of animation or has some questionable looking ones if that the main thing I am worried about it will be a good year for me because I would personally like to play madden for more then 2-3 weeks for the first time in 3 years.

But again if this stuff bothers you and others then feel free to comment, I was just speaking my mind is all.

[ghostlight85]

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Good stuff, but I'm hoping that they add the same kind of anchor points where blockers can add onto defensive players to really drive them back on run plays or seal off on pass protection.