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  • Matt10
    Hall Of Fame
    • Apr 2006
    • 16668

    #136
    Re: Madden 10 Vids @ IGN.com

    Did anyone notice the warping in the pro-tak video? Towards the end of it?

    I'm sure this is because it's in slomo...right?
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    • CreatineKasey
      MVP
      • Sep 2007
      • 4897

      #137
      Re: Madden 10 Vids @ IGN.com

      You know what I hope to see along with the "running the hoop" outside rush animation? A "chopping" at the ball by the defender to strip it from the QB. Defenders are taught this and it would really add to the impact of those certain pass rushers who do it so well.

      Add in a "Ball strip" rating?
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      • LBzrule
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        • Jul 2002
        • 13085

        #138
        Re: Madden 10 Vids @ IGN.com

        The good thing is this is still in alpha. All of our feedback will not be addressed/tuned until they move to the beta stage. I say this because for me the pocket in the alpha build is still slow forming. The same thing for the blocking. They should tune it in beta so that G will not completely ignore the defender.

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        • LBzrule
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          • Jul 2002
          • 13085

          #139
          Re: Madden 10 Vids @ IGN.com

          Originally posted by CreatineKasey
          You know what I hope to see along with the "running the hoop" outside rush animation? A "chopping" at the ball by the defender to strip it from the QB. Defenders are taught this and it would really add to the impact of those certain pass rushers who do it so well.

          Add in a "Ball strip" rating?

          That's the thing I talked about most in the documents I sent them after CD. DE's and OLB's "running the arc" dipping their hips and doing it faster. Again this is alpha but I want that pocket to set up faster.

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          • CreatineKasey
            MVP
            • Sep 2007
            • 4897

            #140
            Re: Madden 10 Vids @ IGN.com

            Originally posted by LBzrule
            That's the thing I talked about most in the documents I sent them after CD. DE's and OLB's "running the arc" dipping their hips and doing it faster. Again this is alpha but I want that pocket to set up faster.
            I agree with this. When watching the IGN vids I noticed the DE's coming upfield, just not very fast. I'm willing to bet you could run away from them fairly easily with an athletic QB at the speed they were coming upfield.

            There's a reason they pay those premier defensive ends and OLB's who can get into the backfield so fast.

            Just watch video of James Harrison. He's textbook to what you are describing. Terrell Suggs is another one. They both get underneath that OT and bull towards the QB QUICK! It's not lacodasical.... it's there like NOW when they get a good jump on the ball. That, and the chopping of the ball would have me taking a week off of life to play madden .
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            • STLRams
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              • Aug 2005
              • 2847

              #141
              Re: Madden 10 Vids @ IGN.com

              After watching the vids, I've gained a whole new level of respect for Ian and his team. These guys are taking this very serious and are trying to make the game realistic as possible, with all the new technology in Madden10. Great job, can't wait.

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              • bang911
                Pro
                • Jun 2004
                • 607

                #142
                Re: Madden 10 Vids @ IGN.com

                Here are my impressions from the videos.

                - Pro Tak is going to make the running game more fair. I hated when you would tackle the ball carrier and push him over the first down marker, but now if teamates are near that won't happen easily. The ball carrier will be stood up and he will have to earn his first down.

                - Authentication was improved as expected. The person Ian was talking to did not act impressed or anything, which suprised me. I was happy to hear Ian talking about the details people here at OS have asked for and EA has given us, I think he took pride in making sure they got those details right. Towels, correct numbering on helmets, hand warmers, etc...

                - Creation of a pocket was great to hear. I liked hearing Ian explain that people did not feel safe sitting in the pocket before, and they had to roll out or drop back. The fact that they are making us play sim by creating a real pocket is a great sign for SIM football.

                - I thought the manual catch made in the Blocking video at 0:37 showed that we will have decent control of our WR's and CPU CB's will not do magical swat's every time the ball is out of their reach.

                - Layer Animation brings more realism to the game. The QB duck passes will surely bring some INT's, but also help out an offense by taking an incomplete pass instead of an automatic sack every time. It should benefit both sides of the ball evenly, while bringing in some new variables we have not had in the last few years.

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                • bang911
                  Pro
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 607

                  #143
                  Re: Madden 10 Vids @ IGN.com

                  Originally posted by Captain Obvious
                  edit: one more thing, when the defensive end is close enough to the qb whether hes still engaged with the tackle or on a b-line to the qb will he try to swipe at the ball? that would be nice to see
                  I was happy to see a DE that close to the QB without magically sheding the block and sucking in the QB for a sack. Swat's at the line should happen if the defense tightens up the pocket enough.

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                  • SageInfinite
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                    • Jul 2002
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                    #144
                    Re: Madden 10 Vids @ IGN.com

                    Originally posted by LBzrule
                    The good thing is this is still in alpha. All of our feedback will not be addressed/tuned until they move to the beta stage. I say this because for me the pocket in the alpha build is still slow forming. The same thing for the blocking. They should tune it in beta so that G will not completely ignore the defender.
                    LB did you notice any double team blocking on passing plays in the alpha? I know in 09 they had double team blocking on run plays but not passing.
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                    • reverend_heat
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 1775

                      #145
                      Re: Madden 10 Vids @ IGN.com

                      Are you guys slippin? No mention of the half sleeves?

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                      • Derrville
                        Banned
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 1623

                        #146
                        Re: Madden 10 Vids @ IGN.com

                        Originally posted by reverend_heat
                        Are you guys slippin? No mention of the half sleeves?

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                        • reverend_heat
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 1775

                          #147
                          Re: Madden 10 Vids @ IGN.com

                          I shoulda known

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                          • LBzrule
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 13085

                            #148
                            Re: Madden 10 Vids @ IGN.com

                            Originally posted by SageInfinite
                            LB did you notice any double team blocking on passing plays in the alpha? I know in 09 they had double team blocking on run plays but not passing.
                            Here is the thing with the double team blocking and the reason why we have not addressed the question that much is we really don't know how it is going to turn out in the end. On CD we did see some double team blocking on run plays. I specifically looked at it for the 3-4 defense. The issue is gonna be consistency. So we are sorta refraining from committing right now to saying it shows up every play or shows up a great deal. Again, we did see it, adem and I specifically. He paused his game and showed me a really nice one. I saw some as I played and I never had trouble playing Inside Linebacker. I do hope they leave the engage points where they are or even make it better, because I ran around wreaking all kinds of havoc with Ray Lewis and had Ed Reed over my back shoulder picking off alot of passes inside.

                            Now on to the pass blocking, unfortunately, I didn't see it on pass blocking. Not saying they can't do that because with the new tool they are working with, they can swap animations out fairly easily as Ian did that right in front of me when I was telling him how bad the DT's were performing the Twist stunt. But of course double pass blocking requires logic, I'm not sure it is there so ...

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                            • polamalu82
                              Rookie
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 269

                              #149
                              Re: Madden 10 Vids @ IGN.com

                              Originally posted by LBzrule
                              Here is the thing with the double team blocking and the reason why we have not addressed the question that much is we really don't know how it is going to turn out in the end. On CD we did see some double team blocking on run plays. I specifically looked at it for the 3-4 defense. The issue is gonna be consistency. So we are sorta refraining from committing right now to saying it shows up every play or shows up a great deal. Again, we did see it, adem and I specifically. He paused his game and showed me a really nice one. I saw some as I played and I never had trouble playing Inside Linebacker. I do hope they leave the engage points where they are or even make it better, because I ran around wreaking all kinds of havoc with Ray Lewis and had Ed Reed over my back shoulder picking off alot of passes inside.

                              Now on to the pass blocking, unfortunately, I didn't see it on pass blocking. Not saying they can't do that because with the new tool they are working with, they can swap animations out fairly easily as Ian did that right in front of me when I was telling him how bad the DT's were performing the Twist stunt. But of course double pass blocking requires logic, I'm not sure it is there so ...
                              This is something that has me a bit worried. In past games the amount of interceptions were way over the top. Did you notice any less in Madden when you played?

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                              • Captain Obvious
                                Rookie
                                • Jul 2005
                                • 321

                                #150
                                Re: Madden 10 Vids @ IGN.com

                                Originally posted by LBzrule
                                Here is the thing with the double team blocking and the reason why we have not addressed the question that much is we really don't know how it is going to turn out in the end. On CD we did see some double team blocking on run plays. I specifically looked at it for the 3-4 defense. The issue is gonna be consistency. So we are sorta refraining from committing right now to saying it shows up every play or shows up a great deal. Again, we did see it, adem and I specifically. He paused his game and showed me a really nice one. I saw some as I played and I never had trouble playing Inside Linebacker. I do hope they leave the engage points where they are or even make it better, because I ran around wreaking all kinds of havoc with Ray Lewis and had Ed Reed over my back shoulder picking off alot of passes inside.

                                Now on to the pass blocking, unfortunately, I didn't see it on pass blocking. Not saying they can't do that because with the new tool they are working with, they can swap animations out fairly easily as Ian did that right in front of me when I was telling him how bad the DT's were performing the Twist stunt. But of course double pass blocking requires logic, I'm not sure it is there so ...
                                better hope so , fat albert gonna be wreakin havoc on that ***. ive been clamoring for the pocket for years now. definitely gonna change how people pass in this game. does the pocket formation happen consistently or is it not as common as youd like it to be? the way berry sacked ben on the play where he warps around the guard looked mighty strange

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