Madden NFL 10 Videos (IGN)

[LBzrule]

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How well did blitzing work LBRulez? We have seen the pocket, but not how effectively blitzing will, or won't be. That's one problem with APF2K8. Due to the speed of the game, the ability to see the entire field, it's very, very easy to pick zones apart.

If you go into Shotgun formation, it's almost impossible to get a sack against a good player.

I actually had All Pro in mind and the differential between under center and shotgun and emphasized it shouldn't matter. The speed of the DE's/OLB's up the field as the run the arc should be the same.

I wasn't completely satisfied in the alpha with the blitzing, well, except with the one I came up with once Ian fixed that twist stunt by the DT's. My suggestion to them was to go in and change the animations for every Dline pass rush stunt play and all plays with blitzing. Make sure guys are not bumping into each other going nowhere because the ideal is that we should just be able to dial up blitzes rather than "setting up" guys here and there. They also have to make sure guys are turning and penetrating appropriately. So I talked about alot of stunting with them. To me it's just a matter of them swapping out the animations with their new animation tool. If they get that done (again Ian did one on the spot, took about 15 mins once we were satisfied with what we were looking at), I think the blitzing will be alot more efficient and you will be able to just rely on dialing things up rather than trying to find "nanos" or setting other things up.

[LBzrule]

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I'm still not sold on the forced drop back for the Quarterback. I like APF2K8's take. You get to drop back yourself. If you drop back past the pocket, the Tackles don't follow you, but the DEs do and they come around for an easy sack. So it's in your best interested to know which plays are a 3, 5, and 7 step drop back.

I didn't mind it, but I can see why someone wouldn't want it. To me, as long as they get that pocket formation where I want it then maybe. But I do think it should be mandatory for the shotgun. I also think this is where it should have been mandatory for APF 2k8. Most people never had any problems in 2k8 until guys got in the shotgun and started running backwards with CAP QB and CAP WR's (6'6 fools LOL). This is where the pocket did not form fast enough and I hope they do not inherit that.

[viewtifuljoe71]

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I know right. That's why instead of sleeping on the plane ride back I started writing about the things I was most impressed with and had fun with. Pro Tak, Running game, Playing ILB/MLB, Stretched Player ratings, New QB ratings, some new offensive formations and no not the Wildcat, others should be revealed in later blogs, I can engage a blocker now and still make a play if I time things correctly ect.

What u are trying to say is that u can engage a blocker then disengage at will? No more suction?

[LBzrule]

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What u are trying to say is that u can engage a blocker then disengage at will? No more suction?

There were some times where I got blocked. But for the most part controlling Ray Lewis I was able to bounce off blocks pretty easily and make alot of plays against the run.

[Ian_Cummings]

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Man was I parched or what! Give that guy some water!

I feel really great to hear the positive feedback guys...as everyone says there are still plenty of areas to fix up and polish but hopefully you all are definitely seeing the move in the right direction. It's a no brainer - "make Madden like real football" - and everyone just gets it.

Same here, it was one of the biggest problems with reading the defense in '09. You could read a defender going one direction, throw the ball, only to have the defender make an instant turn to make a play. It was very unrealistic. Made for a harder game, but took a lot away from what you could do offensively for no reason at all other than that instant turn.

Just so you know guys...this is really a top issue for me. We have been making some pretty drastic locomotion changes as of late that I am hoping to get locked down in the next 2 weeks. I captured quite a few examples today with my capture station that made me smack my forehead (mainly around DB's and DL's being beat and spinning around at full speed) - so I'm actually working with Simon and the senior gameplay engineer this week to see what all we can do.


Also, we found a pretty global issue with receiver cut moves today that was really screwing up our route running. I was really getting upset that we did blogs on the route cuts and stuff and lo and behold marketing starts releasing videos that aren't even remotely close to it...and sure enough there was a bug there so I can't really blame them. We'll get it nicely polished though...that area is big for me as you all know.

Donny and I played a half today and we really had some fun moments. I took the Bills and he was the Bucs - lots of animation bugs that were driving me crazy, and there is still plenty of tuning on balance between run/pass to be done, but it's hard not to get a little bit jazzed when you start to see how all these tech improvements can change the game.

[LBzrule]

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it's hard not to get a little bit jazzed when you start to see how all these tech improvements can change the game.

And that's exactly how I felt when I left, although I didn't want to leave LOL. Once I saw the tech, I said all they need to do is tweak and tune this stuff and this game will be "there" and more.

[KANE699]

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You didn't want to leave!?




I didn't want to go until I had to take a cab to the airport!!!!!!!!!!

[Derrville]

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There were some times where I got blocked. But for the most part controlling Ray Lewis I was able to bounce off blocks pretty easily and make alot of plays against the run.

I like this comment.

[apexbronx]

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Pro Tak Looks Like it could be Taken Advantage of I'm sorry yall. Willie Parker Can't carry 4 Players in MOST situations. Now I did'nt say it can never Happen I'm saying its Rare

[adub88]

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Ian, glad to hear you talk about the route running. I'm sure many people here were thinking what happened to the very realistic route running prototype we saw a while back after seeing the trailer.

[Ian_Cummings]

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Pro Tak Looks Like it could be Taken Advantage of I'm sorry yall. Willie Parker Can't carry 4 Players in MOST situations. Now I did'nt say it can never Happen I'm saying its Rare

FYI - Apex it will definitely NOT ship like that. For all of these demos (including the trailer) we've enabled on a debug option for the max number of players to add on so we can show off the feature.

Now at community day people were breaking out of them like crazy...that's another tuning item altogether...but you won't have to worry about this at all.

[Droopy03]

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I do see some improvements in the game and it looks as it's going in the right direction. great job EA

[myownsun]

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And that's exactly how I felt when I left, although I didn't want to leave LOL. Once I saw the tech, I said all they need to do is tweak and tune this stuff and this game will be "there" and more.

Now that is really good to hear.

[4solo]

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maybe he got beat? maybe the left guard isnt that good?

lol at people expecting every player to make every block every time. every player to make the perfect read every time. every player to sweat every pass near them. jump for every catch. realize the players mess up!

It's one thing to get beat. But he didn't even touch the guy. If its a blitz or a stunt yea i can see him not getting touch but 4 man rush that's the guy he should block, he doesn't have to get a pefect block but the guy should at least be touched.

[LBzrule]

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FYI - Apex it will definitely NOT ship like that. For all of these demos (including the trailer) we've enabled on a debug option for the max number of players to add on so we can show off the feature.

Now at community day people were breaking out of them like crazy...that's another tuning item altogether...but you won't have to worry about this at all.

Please don't tune Jacobs though. I liked him being feared LOL. Maybe bring McClain up just a little.