Madden NFL 10 Blog: A Deeper Look into PRO-TAK

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    Proctor, MN. Go Rails!
    • May 2008
    • 4102

    #166
    Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: A Deeper Look into PRO-TAK

    Pro-Tak looks very impressive.

    I love defensive minded football...and the thought of seeing players in Madden, swarming to the ball, and actually being involved in the tackle looks great.

    This imo, is a great step in making Madden different from years past.
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    • Valdarez
      All Star
      • Feb 2008
      • 5075

      #167
      Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: A Deeper Look into PRO-TAK

      Originally posted by TheWatcher
      Looks hot to me.

      I can see how some may view it as not violent enough, because there may not be as much upper motion as they may like.
      You mean like a bunch of big guys hugging each other? jk

      I think you're right, the HB needs to lower their body to brace for impact, and then get stood up if the defender gets lower on them or can lift them up, thus driving them back.

      So far all of the ProTak videos have showed us guys getting stood up and stopped. In the next round of videos, it would be very kewl to see a guy lowering his head and finishing off his run, pulling the pack forward with him (and to see it from multiple angles). I have a feeling we're going to have to wait until they get it tuned more though.
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      • Netherscourge
        MVP
        • Jul 2008
        • 1163

        #168
        Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: A Deeper Look into PRO-TAK

        Weight should absolutely be a factor in directing gang tackles.

        It doesn't have to determine skill vs. skill as far as some things go, but regardless of skill - small lineman are easier to push around then 300 pound mammoths.

        I don't care if it's a no-skill deadweight player - you try pushing around 300 pounds and see how far you get!

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        • Triathlete_201
          Rookie
          • Sep 2005
          • 428

          #169
          Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: A Deeper Look into PRO-TAK

          I'm very impressed. Good job!! Tackling system looks to be the best ever.

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          • tonynyy
            Rookie
            • May 2008
            • 162

            #170
            Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: A Deeper Look into PRO-TAK

            Sweet stuff.

            I hope they find a way to account for leverage in these battles though. It would make using the cover ball feature useful and reflect what real football battles are about.
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            • ghostlight85
              Rookie
              • Feb 2009
              • 435

              #171
              Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: A Deeper Look into PRO-TAK

              I'm not gonna flip or anything because obviously it's still being tuned and such... but unless my eyes deceive me there is a pretty significant glitch in the lendale white video. There's some motion blur and such, but it appears to me that #92 for the ravens comes in from the left side and glitches to the opposite side and possible even takes the place of the player who initially stood up white at the goal line. Also, I can't tell where or how Reed became involved in the play. I'm sure this kind of stuff will get fixed. Maybe it's not even there and I'm seeing things.

              EDIT: ok, I think Reed initiated the tackle, the transition was just very awkward when 92 came in from the left. It seemed that he and Reed swapped spots instantaneously.

              Regardless of that, the blog is awesome. The feature is awesome. As I've been saying for a while now, if they make the game they conceptually see in their minds, this will be a treat for us gamers.
              Last edited by ghostlight85; 05-04-2009, 07:50 PM.

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              • ghostlight85
                Rookie
                • Feb 2009
                • 435

                #172
                Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: A Deeper Look into PRO-TAK

                In the Ravens vid, it seems that 92 is large enough and had enough momentum going into the collision that he probably should have knocked the pile to the ground toward the right side.

                I'm curious, do you have to hit stick the pile to knock it down, or will simple weight/momentum be enough in many cases?

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                • Glorious Arc
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 1875

                  #173
                  Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: A Deeper Look into PRO-TAK

                  Looking at the White clip again, I was happy to see that Ray Lewis doesnt just connect into the back of White and push him into the endzone. Instead he slightly over purses the play then turns and tackles him from the side.

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                  • Lava
                    Pro
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 966

                    #174
                    Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: A Deeper Look into PRO-TAK

                    Ian, one thing I noticed in the vid was an art problem. I know it's not the focus of the video and it's just a tiny detail but it stuck out like a sore thumb to me right away. The stripes on the Titans helmet appear to go all the way to the bottom of the helmet on the back. See here:



                    This is not accurate; in real life they stop fading near the top of the helmet as seen here:


                    It's not a major problem, but it would be nice to see it fixed if possible. Thanks so much, the Pro-Tak stuff looked great.
                    Last edited by Lava; 05-04-2009, 08:47 PM.
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                    • MCNABB51BOI
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 195

                      #175
                      Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: A Deeper Look into PRO-TAK

                      Originally posted by Lava
                      Ian, one thing I noticed in the vid was an art problem. I know it's not the focus of the video and it's just a tiny detail but it stuck out like a sore thumb to me right away. The stripes on the Titans helmet appear to go all the way to the bottom of the helmet on the back. See here:



                      This is not accurate; in real life they stop fading near the top of the helmet as seen here:


                      It's not a major problem, but it would be nice to see it fixed if possible. Thanks so much, the Pro-Tak stuff looked great.
                      this is what i dont understand . when i look at this image i say dang ??? why is the running back taking a hand-off so high down near the goal lione????
                      why are you worried about the uniform when the game play isnt right yet ???
                      if the game doesnt play right are you gonna sit around and play with the jersey and helmets ? gimmie a break thats close enough

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                      • lgxjames
                        Pro
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 894

                        #176
                        Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: A Deeper Look into PRO-TAK

                        interesting that they can build on this, wondering where this really can go, good blogging

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                        • K_GUN
                          C*t*z*n *f RSN
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 3891

                          #177
                          Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: A Deeper Look into PRO-TAK

                          Originally posted by MCNABB51BOI
                          this is what i dont understand . when i look at this image i say dang ??? why is the running back taking a hand-off so high down near the goal lione????
                          why are you worried about the uniform when the game play isnt right yet ???
                          if the game doesnt play right are you gonna sit around and play with the jersey and helmets ? gimmie a break thats close enough
                          ha ha


                          so is the hand-off....close enough


                          ask 10 guys on the street whats wrong with that pic, i bet more comment on the uniform issue versus the hand-off procedure


                          PS....save the "i played div 1-aa dude, i should know"
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                          • MCNABB51BOI
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 195

                            #178
                            Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: A Deeper Look into PRO-TAK

                            anybody who knows anything about football would know you are not gonna be standing str8 up taking a hand off inside the 5yrd line . thats the stupid who in the h!!# is gonna notice a stripe on a helmet it has nothing to do with PLAYING a football game

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                            • K_GUN
                              C*t*z*n *f RSN
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 3891

                              #179
                              Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: A Deeper Look into PRO-TAK

                              Originally posted by MCNABB51BOI
                              anybody who knows anything about football would know you are not gonna be standing str8 up taking a hand off inside the 5yrd line . thats the stupid who in the h!!# is gonna notice a stripe on a helmet it has nothing to do with PLAYING a football game
                              yawn
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                              • cedwebb
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2005
                                • 1160

                                #180
                                Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: A Deeper Look into PRO-TAK

                                Originally posted by MCNABB51BOI
                                this is what i dont understand . when i look at this image i say dang ??? why is the running back taking a hand-off so high down near the goal lione????
                                why are you worried about the uniform when the game play isnt right yet ???
                                if the game doesnt play right are you gonna sit around and play with the jersey and helmets ? gimmie a break thats close enough
                                Sorry bro, "thats close enough" seriously??? really??? As hard core as these guys are at making the game I am sure they don't want that kind of mistake either.

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