Madden NFL 10 Blog: A Deeper Look into PRO-TAK

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  • Qb
    All Star
    • Mar 2003
    • 8798

    #211
    Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: A Deeper Look into PRO-TAK

    Sounds like a promising addition. I think Pro-Tak and re-worked player movement (ie, momentum/sense of weight/turn radius/etc) could be big steps forward if they are successfully implemented...

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    • Maelstrom-XIII
      Pro
      • Apr 2009
      • 835

      #212
      Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: A Deeper Look into PRO-TAK

      That Steve Smith vid was sick. Glad he's on my team.

      But the Pro-Tak blog was kinda disappointing to me...I mean, it's great to see the gang-tackling in motion (or replay, as it were), but they didn't even touch on most of the stuff pro-tak is going to be used for (at least not vid-wise and such), even though we have been beaten over the head with it in every preview...I mean, we know what its being used for ad nauseum, and yet they only showed us gang-tackling. Don't get me wrong, I'm not gonna bite the hand that feeds...but I would've liked to see more..and perhaps from an in-game perspective...

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      • Bears_16_and_0
        Banned
        • May 2003
        • 1328

        #213
        Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: A Deeper Look into PRO-TAK

        Originally posted by XFLOutLaw
        Not to be a dick or anything but thats the Cheifs it even says it on the screen
        lol whoops

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        • FootballSchemer
          Banned
          • Apr 2009
          • 762

          #214
          Can't reallly decide unless run blocking is fixed..

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          • larryfoot5050
            Rookie
            • May 2009
            • 3

            #215
            why is lenwhale white well white?

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            • thegame19991999
              Rookie
              • Apr 2009
              • 290

              #216
              i have a playstation 2 will they get the same feature like all the rest. of the system and will there be better commentary also a much much improve franchise i am sick of the samething WE DEMAND BETTER

              IAN PLEASE RESPOND ARE ANY WORKING ON THE GAME

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              • TheCreep
                Banned
                • Nov 2008
                • 1792

                #217
                Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: A Deeper Look into PRO-TAK

                Originally posted by thegame19991999
                i have a playstation 2 will they get the same feature like all the rest. of the system and will there be better commentary also a much much improve franchise i am sick of the samething WE DEMAND BETTER

                IAN PLEASE RESPOND ARE ANY WORKING ON THE GAME
                Playstation 2? You need to upgrade baby boy, I aint hatin, but its 2009 baby. I'm just playin with u.

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                • Derrville
                  Banned
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 1623

                  #218
                  Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: A Deeper Look into PRO-TAK

                  You know, Demarcus Ware has gotten the best of Brandon Jacobs more than a few times, i hope Jacobs doesnt have to be tackled like that all the time.

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                  • MCNABB51BOI
                    Rookie
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 195

                    #219
                    Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: A Deeper Look into PRO-TAK

                    Originally posted by TheCreep
                    Playstation 2? You need to upgrade baby boy, I aint hatin, but its 2009 baby. I'm just playin with u.
                    UPGRADE?? what for the game is better on PS2 right now. graphics yea but gameplay PS2 allday

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                    • R9NALD9
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 1268

                      #220
                      Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: A Deeper Look into PRO-TAK

                      the thing that worries me quite a lot regarding the PRO-TAK system is, when you watch the video where the Ravens stop the Titans at the goalline it seems as if the first tackler is holding the player up to force gang tackling...it doesn't seem very natural at this point. If the whole gang tackling concept is going to be forced it will be pointless and irritating, it should happen natural as it does in nfl 2k5. If a tackler is going to holp up the ball carrier just to show of gang tackling 50 times a game they should rather leave it.
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                      • SouthernBrick
                        9.17.13
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 5831

                        #221
                        Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: A Deeper Look into PRO-TAK

                        Originally posted by Derrville
                        You know, Demarcus Ware has gotten the best of Brandon Jacobs more than a few times, i hope Jacobs doesnt have to be tackled like that all the time.
                        Agreed. Shouldn't take 4 people most times.
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                        • Outkizast
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 1092

                          #222
                          Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: A Deeper Look into PRO-TAK

                          Seems like it should start a single-man tackle or something.. maybe the RB can be falling forward... then IF someone else piles on, they can help push him back so he doesn't fall forward.... seemed like Lendale should have scored on the Ravens clip...

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                          • R9NALD9
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 1268

                            #223
                            Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: A Deeper Look into PRO-TAK

                            Originally posted by Outkizast
                            Seems like it should start a single-man tackle or something.. maybe the RB can be falling forward... then IF someone else piles on, they can help push him back so he doesn't fall forward.... seemed like Lendale should have scored on the Ravens clip...
                            agreed. If I was playing as the Titans in that clip I would've kicked a whole in my TV. He should have scored easily.
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                            • ghostlight85
                              Rookie
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 435

                              #224
                              Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: A Deeper Look into PRO-TAK

                              I watched the Ravens clip a half dozen or so more times. I love how Ray Lewis interacts with the pile and how the db coming in from the right lowers and shoulders White to the ground. Those two are spot on. #92 is locked in a stepless sliding animation and then glitchifies himself into the position that Ed Reed was occupying. Everything about #92 in this video is extraordinarily wrong. It will get tuned though. I'm going to choose to be excited about the other side of this rather than paranoid about the stuff that is wrong.

                              As others have posted, White's size should have pushed him into the endzone here on the initial hit. The other defenders never would have had a chance to get involved because White would have pushed Reed backward on contact.

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                              • TombSong
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 2543

                                #225
                                Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: A Deeper Look into PRO-TAK

                                Originally posted by ghostlight85

                                As others have posted, White's size should have pushed him into the endzone here on the initial hit. The other defenders never would have had a chance to get involved because White would have pushed Reed backward on contact.

                                Which is why I posted somewhere in here, it dont look like there is any physics really involved in any of this. It LOOKS like there is a contact event which triggers "mo cap" animations and they play out based on the ratings of the players and the direction the user is pressing is suppose to somehow influence it. Although in that vid it didnt appear the players weight or the users input mattered. White just got stood up.

                                If we talk about it, its "you are being a *****", "its not done yet"
                                Ok, well what am I suppose to comment on ? What I see or what I hope to see ?

                                I started another thread to try to get a good debate going on the whys behind the function of the different parts of the game. I figure the better you understand whats going on, the more you can identify whats a bug/glitch/user error when playing the game when it drops.

                                No one wants to talk about this stuff though. They only want to argue over "well its gonna be the best madden ever" or "I aint buying it because the shoes aint right"

                                We got the ear of the DEV of a big game and we are talking about/asking the wrong questions when discussing some of the features of the game.

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