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  • backbreaker
    Banned
    • Jul 2002
    • 3991

    #1

    Madden NFL 10 Video: Pro-TAK Animation System

    Look at Maximum tackle and the suddenness in which the tackler arrives and the wealth of options in this system. The tackler comes to tackle not engage in a line dance. I know I don't know all the features to Pro Tak, when it comes to the actual tackle, but when you see this video, of ESPN NFL 2K5 tackle options you will understand why I critisize the grabbing for grabbing sake.

    In 2k5 you could initiate the tackle with a wrap or a hit. I also like which wasn't mentioned in the video, you can choose whether or not you should wrap high or low by flicking the right stick up for high wrap tackle and flicking down for low wrap tackle and the next defender(s) attacks the ball carrier.

    I'm not hating, I actually like the idea, I just want it to be aggressive and violent as it should be its a collision sport not contact and racing up to a ball carrier just to hold onto him just for looks, just doesn't look good.

    http://xboxmovies.teamxbox.com/xbox/...aximum-Tackle/
  • LBzrule
    Hall Of Fame
    • Jul 2002
    • 13085

    #2
    Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

    Originally posted by backbreaker
    Look at Maximum tackle and the suddenness in which the tackler arrives and the wealth of options in this system. The tackler comes to tackle not engage in a line dance. I know I don't know all the features to Pro Tak, when it comes to the actual tackle, but when you see this video, of ESPN NFL 2K5 tackle options you will understand why I critisize the grabbing for grabbing sake.

    In 2k5 you could initiate the tackle with a wrap or a hit. I also like which wasn't mentioned in the video, you can choose whether or not you should wrap high or low by flicking the right stick up for high wrap tackle and flicking down for low wrap tackle and the next defender(s) attacks the ball carrier.

    I'm not hating, I actually like the idea, I just want it to be aggressive and violent as it should be its a collision sport not contact and racing up to a ball carrier just to hold onto him just for looks, just doesn't look good.

    http://xboxmovies.teamxbox.com/xbox/...aximum-Tackle/
    I actually think the latest backbreaker tackles looks the most violent and look like real collisions.

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    • Brandon_c993
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      • Mar 2009
      • 1228

      #3
      Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

      Originally posted by LBzrule
      I actually think the latest backbreaker tackles looks the most violent and look like real collisions.
      Ya I think Backbreaker will be the only Football game right now that will be able to compete with Madden sales-wise...assuming the gameplay and controls will be done well, I am looking forward to getting both...I love the tackles in BB...
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      • backbreaker
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        • Jul 2002
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        #4
        Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

        Originally posted by LBzrule
        I actually think the latest backbreaker tackles looks the most violent and look like real collisions.
        Thanks for the heads up, those tackles do look like they are attacking the ball carrier. This is all I've been saying, I don't mean no harm or hate, just being a squeaky wheel. All my football life pee wee, jr. high school, high school and college, I've been told to hit'em, stick your head in their, not grab, because the grab comes after the hit.

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        • floridagatorfan
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          • Feb 2009
          • 172

          #5
          Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

          Originally posted by Brandon_c993
          Ya I think Backbreaker will be the only Football game right now that will be able to compete with Madden sales-wise...assuming the gameplay and controls will be done well, I am looking forward to getting both...I love the tackles in BB...
          I doubt that it will compete with Madden for sales just like All Pro football couldn't compete with Madden for sales. I just think too many people are going to pick up Madden for the NFL and then maybe get BB secondary because it offers a different experience.

          I hope backbreaker is good just like I hope Madden will be good this year but until I see more of it I can't say for sure how good it will be. Football is definately a tough sport to reproduce in a videogame and I think that in its first installment BB will offer something unique but will also have flaws being that it is their first attempt at a football game.

          I would love to be wrong on this, and the tackles look amazing (idea of seeing uncanned hits would keep enjoyment up and prevent things from becoming stale), but I also am trying to hold back my excitement and not put too much hopes into it just yet.

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          • Brandon_c993
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            • Mar 2009
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            #6
            Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

            Originally posted by floridagatorfan
            I doubt that it will compete with Madden for sales just like All Pro football couldn't compete with Madden for sales. I just think too many people are going to pick up Madden for the NFL and then maybe get BB secondary because it offers a different experience.

            I hope backbreaker is good just like I hope Madden will be good this year but until I see more of it I can't say for sure how good it will be. Football is definately a tough sport to reproduce in a videogame and I think that in its first installment BB will offer something unique but will also have flaws being that it is their first attempt at a football game.

            I would love to be wrong on this, and the tackles look amazing (idea of seeing uncanned hits would keep enjoyment up and prevent things from becoming stale), but I also am trying to hold back my excitement and not put too much hopes into it just yet.
            I hate APF I bought if for $12 and that was too much APF didn't compete because APF was not any good and didn't have NFL teams, like Backbreaker won't either but BB also has the new engine, that IMO will revolutionize football games, just like I think Pro-Tak will revolutionize Madden in many aspects, but like you said it remains to be seen if BB will be good...
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            • salbowski
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              • Aug 2008
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              #7
              Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

              I'd like to see a video of the backbreaker tackling without the heavy metal music and loud gunshot every time someone tackles...

              I think my niece tackling our cat would look violent if i recorded it with metallica playing in the backgroung and firing a 9mm upon impact.

              Much like madden i'll judge entirely when i've seen live gameplay footage and not a moment sooner... screw all this trailer garbage.

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              • Derrville
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                • Sep 2008
                • 1623

                #8
                Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

                Originally posted by LBzrule
                I actually think the latest backbreaker tackles looks the most violent and look like real collisions.
                They def look awesome.

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                • Brandon_c993
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                  • Mar 2009
                  • 1228

                  #9
                  Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

                  Originally posted by salbowski
                  I'd like to see a video of the backbreaker tackling without the heavy metal music and loud gunshot every time someone tackles...

                  I think my niece tackling our cat would look violent if i recorded it with metallica playing in the backgroung and firing a 9mm upon impact.

                  Much like madden i'll judge entirely when i've seen live gameplay footage and not a moment sooner... screw all this trailer garbage.
                  ,But if you played Gwar it would be that much more violent and creepy....almost as creepy as this pic:

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                  • jjdogjjdog5162
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                    • Mar 2007
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                    #10
                    Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

                    Originally posted by salbowski
                    I'd like to see a video of the backbreaker tackling without the heavy metal music and loud gunshot every time someone tackles...

                    I think my niece tackling our cat would look violent if i recorded it with metallica playing in the backgroung and firing a 9mm upon impact.

                    Much like madden i'll judge entirely when i've seen live gameplay footage and not a moment sooner... screw all this trailer garbage.

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                    • CreatineKasey
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                      • Sep 2007
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                      #11
                      Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

                      If Madden captures the greatness 2k8 had with tackles and makes it look somewhere in the ballpark of Backbreaker, I'll be whistlin' dixie!

                      Maximum tackling with reach tackles is just awesome! You can actually fill the A gap on an iso run, gain control of the blocker and ideally try for a reach tackle and single handedly stop the play in the gap... much like GREAT LB's will do. Big hits serve the correct purpose.
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                      • PantherBeast_OS
                        RKO!!
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 6636

                        #12
                        Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

                        The only way Backbreaker can compete with madden 10 is. IF it had a Franchise mode that is as good as it will be madden are better. Plus It would need a name and number system likw ncaa 09 has to be able to imput of the real nfl players into backbreakers teams. Besides that. BB has nothing really on madden10 aspect maybe graphics and motion engine. Thats bout all. But without the nfl rights BB will not last long. Unless NFL all of a sudden see Backbreaker out sale madden 10. Then nfl could pull EA rights to nfl and give BB a chance. But that is a big if. WE will see. But I don't see madden 10 ben out sold by BB.:wink:

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                        • Brandon_c993
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                          • Mar 2009
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                          Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

                          Originally posted by Pantherbeast
                          The only way Backbreaker can compete with madden 10 is. IF it had a Franchise mode that is as good as it will be madden are better. Plus It would need a name and number system likw ncaa 09 has to be able to imput of the real nfl players into backbreakers teams. Besides that. BB has nothing really on madden10 aspect maybe graphics and motion engine. Thats bout all. But without the nfl rights BB will not last long. Unless NFL all of a sudden see Backbreaker out sale madden 10. Then nfl could pull EA rights to nfl and give BB a chance. But that is a big if. WE will see. But I don't see madden 10 ben out sold by BB.:wink:
                          Well Blitz has done OK without the NFL licesne although Blitz 2 has not done well at all, but I enjoy it, its a nice change,(I loved the 1st one though) I never said BB with outsell Madden I said it will be the only one that will compete....quite a big difference...
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                          • joejccva71
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                            • Mar 2008
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                            #14
                            Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

                            Another Backbreaker vs Madden thread.

                            3...2...1... Lock please.

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                            • Brandon_c993
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                              • Mar 2009
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                              #15
                              Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

                              Originally posted by joejccva71
                              Another Backbreaker vs Madden thread.

                              3...2...1... Lock please.
                              Why??? It hasn't turned into anything bad...just friendly conversation about 2 different games...whats wrong with that?
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