Madden NFL 10 Video: Pro-TAK Animation System

Collapse

Recommended Videos

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • joejccva71
    Banned
    • Mar 2008
    • 1535

    #16
    Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

    Originally posted by Brandon_c993
    Why??? It hasn't turned into anything bad...just friendly conversation about 2 different games...whats wrong with that?
    It's friendly for the mean time. Course it's only page 2 of the thread.

    Comment

    • big_larry
      Banned
      • Apr 2009
      • 573

      #17
      Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

      pro tak is way more advanced than that 2k5 crap, which only allows 3 player gang tackles just like madden 09. pro tak is simulating real gang tackles when the running back is hard to take down and it takes alot of defenders to get them down. im sure madden will have some violent tackles when there are only like 2 or 3 players in on the tackle and you can come in and hit stick a player being held up.

      so you need to stop hating and get out of here with that weak *** 2k5 crap which by the way they run like ******s. 2k football is done, so go play some 2k5 and get out of here.

      Comment

      • JMD
        MVP
        • Feb 2008
        • 4456

        #18
        Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

        Originally posted by salbowski
        I'd like to see a video of the backbreaker tackling without the heavy metal music and loud gunshot every time someone tackles...

        .
        Turn the sound off.

        Comment

        • backbreaker
          Banned
          • Jul 2002
          • 3991

          #19
          Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

          This is not about backbreaker and its not about pro tak being inferior to 2k5. Again I like the idea of pro tak, I just would like to see gang tackling be more sudden when a defender approaches the ball carrier for what I seen now, all the defender do is grab on and join the party. Again the defense does not benefit from pushing the ball carrier backwards hence the forward progress rule, his main objective is to stop the ball carrier from advancing any further than he already has. It should be more "moth to a flame, instead of bee too honey".

          Comment

          • Brandon_c993
            MVP
            • Mar 2009
            • 1228

            #20
            Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

            Originally posted by joejccva71
            It's friendly for the mean time. Course it's only page 2 of the thread.
            This is true..if it gets out of hand I agree it should be locked but for now it is fine
            PSN:GOLDENxEYE

            Currently Playing: Mortal Kombat & Portal 2

            Comment

            • rckabillyRaider
              MVP
              • Jul 2008
              • 4382

              #21
              Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

              Is backbreaker even ever gonna come out?! Its like some mythical game right now and nothing more. If it ever comes out, I'll def purchase it but for now I just hope that EA finally produces a decent playing game of madden.

              Comment

              • Valdarez
                All Star
                • Feb 2008
                • 5075

                #22
                Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

                In general Madden has no feel of momentum. Players don't feel like they have an impact when they hit (unless it's hitstick, then it's just weird, not accurate), they don't feel like they have momentum that lets them finish out runs, they don't have momentum when changing direction. Couple that with all of the missing transition animations and it makes the game feel unnecessarily akward.
                Follow Me On Twitter: http://twitter.com/Valdarez
                Read My Blog - Vision Is Everything

                Comment

                • c dizzy m baby
                  Rookie
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 371

                  #23
                  Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

                  Im not sure but I think I remember Ian or someone saying something like animations take the most memory, so Im guessing BB will use much less "canned" animations so does that mean they have more memory for other stuff? That seems to be the biggest limitation when talking with the Devs so Im curious if thats true what will they do with the extra space.

                  Comment

                  • Valdarez
                    All Star
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 5075

                    #24
                    Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

                    Check this out, new bakebreaker video footage --> http://blog.us.playstation.com/2009/...-and-euphoria/

                    <object classid="clsid27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" width="437" height="265" id="viddler"><param name="movie" value="http://www.viddler.com/simple_on_site/90d3add4" /><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always" /><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /><embed src="http://www.viddler.com/simple_on_site/90d3add4" width="437" height="265" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowScriptAccess="always" allowFullScreen="true" name="viddler" ></embed></object>

                    It's short, but you can catch a glimpse of a 4 person tackle if you watch closely.

                    EDIT: The three person tackle is at about 1:14 into the video.
                    Last edited by Valdarez; 05-08-2009, 03:00 AM.
                    Follow Me On Twitter: http://twitter.com/Valdarez
                    Read My Blog - Vision Is Everything

                    Comment

                    • apexbronx
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 184

                      #25
                      Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

                      Originally posted by backbreaker
                      Thanks for the heads up, those tackles do look like they are attacking the ball carrier. This is all I've been saying, I don't mean no harm or hate, just being a squeaky wheel. All my football life pee wee, jr. high school, high school and college, I've been told to hit'em, stick your head in their, not grab, because the grab comes after the hit.
                      100% Agreed
                      Code:
                      <iframe src="[URL]http://gamercard.xbox.com/Gideon%20Prime.card[/URL]" scrolling="no" frameBorder="0" height="140" width="204">Put your gamertag here too.</iframe>

                      Comment

                      • The Lob Mob
                        Youtube Innovators
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 824

                        #26
                        Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

                        Originally posted by big_larry
                        pro tak is way more advanced than that 2k5 crap, which only allows 3 player gang tackles just like madden 09. pro tak is simulating real gang tackles when the running back is hard to take down and it takes alot of defenders to get them down. im sure madden will have some violent tackles when there are only like 2 or 3 players in on the tackle and you can come in and hit stick a player being held up.

                        so you need to stop hating and get out of here with that weak *** 2k5 crap which by the way they run like ******s. 2k football is done, so go play some 2k5 and get out of here.
                        <object height="300" width="400">


                        <embed src="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=90875&server=vimeo.com&show_ title=1&show_byline=1&show_portrait=0&color=&fulls creen=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" height="300" width="400"></object>

                        <object height="344" width="425">


                        <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/4QAZBu9pKBM&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="344" width="425"></object>

                        LOL, 'weak'. . .LOL. . .
                        ***All 55 Badges In NBA 2K17 MyCareer (Full List)***
                        ***3 Things YOU NEED TO KNOW About Badges In NBA 2K17 ***


                        The Lob Mob Youtube Channel
                        The Lob Mob on Instagram
                        The Lob Mob on Twitter
                        facebook.com/TheLobMob

                        Comment

                        • Valdarez
                          All Star
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 5075

                          #27
                          Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

                          Originally posted by Entiel
                          <object width="400" height="300"></object><object width="425" height="344">


                          <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/4QAZBu9pKBM&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></object>

                          LOL, 'weak'. . .LOL. . .
                          Nice video. Did you see the 4 person tackle in the back breaker link I posted? Looks very, very kewl, better than Madden or 2K IMHO.
                          Follow Me On Twitter: http://twitter.com/Valdarez
                          Read My Blog - Vision Is Everything

                          Comment

                          • icomb1ne
                            Rookie
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 486

                            #28
                            Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

                            Originally posted by Valdarez
                            Nice video. Did you see the 4 person tackle in the back breaker link I posted? Looks very, very kewl, better than Madden or 2K IMHO.
                            Given the brief glimpses we have seen it looks cool but not realistic. I think the problem is that they definitely look to much like ragdolls. At 1:03 the guy is falling to the ground head first and it doesn't seem like he trying very hard to break his fall. Talk about a broken back. Also, it seems there will be no dragging defenders and fighting for yards. The defenders will either make the huge hit or simply glance off, no runners overpowering the defenders and breaking from their grasps.
                            Check out www.fieldgulls.com if you are a Seahawks fan.

                            Comment

                            • Valdarez
                              All Star
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 5075

                              #29
                              Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

                              Originally posted by icomb1ne
                              Given the brief glimpses we have seen it looks cool but not realistic. I think the problem is that they definitely look to much like ragdolls. At 1:03 the guy is falling to the ground head first and it doesn't seem like he trying very hard to break his fall. Talk about a broken back. Also, it seems there will be no dragging defenders and fighting for yards. The defenders will either make the huge hit or simply glance off, no runners overpowering the defenders and breaking from their grasps.
                              Ragdoll/realistic? They look human, more realistic with regards to movement than any football game we have seen (Madden or 2K's). In that 1:03 reference you used, you don't see the end of the play. For all we know he does extend his arms, or turn his body. That 4 man tackle though, looks far more realistic than the group hugs we've seen thus far on the ProTak animations. You can see/feel the player momentum in the backbreaker version.
                              Follow Me On Twitter: http://twitter.com/Valdarez
                              Read My Blog - Vision Is Everything

                              Comment

                              • Exonerated
                                MVP
                                • Dec 2007
                                • 4899

                                #30
                                Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

                                You know the ESPN 2k5 sack of the year nominee is only a 2 man tackle. The first dude falls off...

                                Just saying. Its not 3 men. It has the illusion of 3. You see the first guy fall off. And then the other 2 sack him.

                                Just sayin..

                                Comment

                                Working...