Madden NFL 10 Video: Pro-TAK Animation System
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Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....
pro tak is way more advanced than that 2k5 crap, which only allows 3 player gang tackles just like madden 09. pro tak is simulating real gang tackles when the running back is hard to take down and it takes alot of defenders to get them down. im sure madden will have some violent tackles when there are only like 2 or 3 players in on the tackle and you can come in and hit stick a player being held up.
so you need to stop hating and get out of here with that weak *** 2k5 crap which by the way they run like ******s. 2k football is done, so go play some 2k5 and get out of here.Comment
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Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....
This is not about backbreaker and its not about pro tak being inferior to 2k5. Again I like the idea of pro tak, I just would like to see gang tackling be more sudden when a defender approaches the ball carrier for what I seen now, all the defender do is grab on and join the party. Again the defense does not benefit from pushing the ball carrier backwards hence the forward progress rule, his main objective is to stop the ball carrier from advancing any further than he already has. It should be more "moth to a flame, instead of bee too honey".Comment
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Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....
Is backbreaker even ever gonna come out?! Its like some mythical game right now and nothing more. If it ever comes out, I'll def purchase it but for now I just hope that EA finally produces a decent playing game of madden.Comment
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Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....
In general Madden has no feel of momentum. Players don't feel like they have an impact when they hit (unless it's hitstick, then it's just weird, not accurate), they don't feel like they have momentum that lets them finish out runs, they don't have momentum when changing direction. Couple that with all of the missing transition animations and it makes the game feel unnecessarily akward.Comment
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Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....
Im not sure but I think I remember Ian or someone saying something like animations take the most memory, so Im guessing BB will use much less "canned" animations so does that mean they have more memory for other stuff? That seems to be the biggest limitation when talking with the Devs so Im curious if thats true what will they do with the extra space.Comment
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Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....
Check this out, new bakebreaker video footage --> http://blog.us.playstation.com/2009/...-and-euphoria/
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It's short, but you can catch a glimpse of a 4 person tackle if you watch closely.
EDIT: The three person tackle is at about 1:14 into the video.Last edited by Valdarez; 05-08-2009, 03:00 AM.Comment
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Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....
100% AgreedThanks for the heads up, those tackles do look like they are attacking the ball carrier. This is all I've been saying, I don't mean no harm or hate, just being a squeaky wheel. All my football life pee wee, jr. high school, high school and college, I've been told to hit'em, stick your head in their, not grab, because the grab comes after the hit.Code:<iframe src="[URL]http://gamercard.xbox.com/Gideon%20Prime.card[/URL]" scrolling="no" frameBorder="0" height="140" width="204">Put your gamertag here too.</iframe>
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Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....
<object height="300" width="400">pro tak is way more advanced than that 2k5 crap, which only allows 3 player gang tackles just like madden 09. pro tak is simulating real gang tackles when the running back is hard to take down and it takes alot of defenders to get them down. im sure madden will have some violent tackles when there are only like 2 or 3 players in on the tackle and you can come in and hit stick a player being held up.
so you need to stop hating and get out of here with that weak *** 2k5 crap which by the way they run like ******s. 2k football is done, so go play some 2k5 and get out of here.
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LOL, 'weak'. . .LOL. . .
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Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....
Nice video. Did you see the 4 person tackle in the back breaker link I posted? Looks very, very kewl, better than Madden or 2K IMHO.<object width="400" height="300"></object><object width="425" height="344">
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LOL, 'weak'. . .LOL. . .
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Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....
Given the brief glimpses we have seen it looks cool but not realistic. I think the problem is that they definitely look to much like ragdolls. At 1:03 the guy is falling to the ground head first and it doesn't seem like he trying very hard to break his fall. Talk about a broken back. Also, it seems there will be no dragging defenders and fighting for yards. The defenders will either make the huge hit or simply glance off, no runners overpowering the defenders and breaking from their grasps.Check out www.fieldgulls.com if you are a Seahawks fan.Comment
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Ragdoll/realistic? They look human, more realistic with regards to movement than any football game we have seen (Madden or 2K's). In that 1:03 reference you used, you don't see the end of the play. For all we know he does extend his arms, or turn his body. That 4 man tackle though, looks far more realistic than the group hugs we've seen thus far on the ProTak animations. You can see/feel the player momentum in the backbreaker version.Given the brief glimpses we have seen it looks cool but not realistic. I think the problem is that they definitely look to much like ragdolls. At 1:03 the guy is falling to the ground head first and it doesn't seem like he trying very hard to break his fall. Talk about a broken back. Also, it seems there will be no dragging defenders and fighting for yards. The defenders will either make the huge hit or simply glance off, no runners overpowering the defenders and breaking from their grasps.Comment
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Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....
You know the ESPN 2k5 sack of the year nominee is only a 2 man tackle. The first dude falls off...
Just saying. Its not 3 men. It has the illusion of 3. You see the first guy fall off. And then the other 2 sack him.
Just sayin..Comment

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