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  • noplace
    MVP
    • Jul 2004
    • 2114

    #61
    Re: PLAYBOOK BLOG IS UP!!!!

    When will EA explore how a true option works. I would like to see how its executed with a defense on the field. On that misdirection option everything seems to bunched up. Spacing is bad
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    • Jistic
      Hall Of Fame
      • Mar 2003
      • 16406

      #62
      Re: PLAYBOOK BLOG IS UP!!!!

      This is nice and all. But if all these formations have the same 13 plays like last year it won't matter. If I see the same 13 pass patterns I've seen for years in EA football again this year I'll scream.

      Maybe they'll actually have some good deep patterns for once too. I don't wanna see more playbooks with multiple formations using the same exact plays again.
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      • stylee
        Rookie
        • Apr 2009
        • 317

        #63
        Re: PLAYBOOK BLOG IS UP!!!!

        I agree about line splits, heavyhitter. I'd certainly be cool to have wider splits for certain formations/teams - Navy, Texas Tech, etc - that use them extensively.

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        • 95Frazier
          Rookie
          • May 2008
          • 61

          #64
          Re: PLAYBOOK BLOG IS UP!!!!

          Did they put the triple option back in every play book>??
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          • zoltan
            Rookie
            • Dec 2008
            • 358

            #65
            Re: PLAYBOOK BLOG IS UP!!!!

            Originally posted by noplace
            When will EA explore how a true option works. I would like to see how its executed with a defense on the field. On that misdirection option everything seems to bunched up. Spacing is bad
            as you could see from the video the line splits are unchanged. in a true option attack offense the line splits are wider set apart somehwat like a shotgun formation. but it appears they havent done anything different thus the lack of space on that play.

            so they have the correct concept down, but will it work without the correct linemen arrangements????? we wont know yet because they didnt put defense in those videos, so it was showing just a shadow of the play rather than the play in it's entirety.

            who knows maybe with defense the new o line interactions will be brilliant in zone blocking hahah

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            • J.R. Locke
              Banned
              • Nov 2004
              • 4137

              #66
              Re: PLAYBOOK BLOG IS UP!!!!

              Line play is still nowhere close.

              They need wider splits to open up holes....fundamental football....

              As I thought it would be though.

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              • yanks26ngoin
                Pro
                • May 2008
                • 876

                #67
                Re: PLAYBOOK BLOG IS UP!!!!

                Glad to see that Army gets the Flexbone this year, but, Rich Ellerson's offense does not feature a TE, or at least it didnt at Cal Poly. Did Army send a playbook this year, or formations that featured a TE, or did you use the same exact plays as Navy's and Georgia Tech's offense?
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                • kcarr
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 2812

                  #68
                  Re: PLAYBOOK BLOG IS UP!!!!

                  I didn't see this mentioned before so I will mention it.

                  Flexbone Twins Over
                  In this formation #8 should be ineligible as a receiver. Of the 7 people on the line he is not one of the uncovered guys on the end. He is covered by #84. #75 is in an eligible position. Not sure about the NCAA rules on players with ineligible numbers playing in eligible spots but if they aren't allowed to then this could cause some rule problems.









                  Flexbone Slit Wing Z

                  Same goes for this one but here #36 is the normally eligible receiver who is ineligible because he is covered by #84.


                  Flexbone Tackle Over
                  Here while #75 is in the TE position he is covered by #84 and should still be ineligible. Although #36 is lined up next to the guard he should be eligible.

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                  • Wet Bandit
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 1748

                    #69
                    Re: PLAYBOOK BLOG IS UP!!!!

                    But those covered players would only be an issue if they can actually catch a pass, right? And we don't know whether that's the case.

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                    • heavy_hitter
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 428

                      #70
                      Re: PLAYBOOK BLOG IS UP!!!!

                      Originally posted by J.R. Locke
                      Line play is still nowhere close.

                      They need wider splits to open up holes....fundamental football....

                      As I thought it would be though.
                      When has EA had fundamental football philosophy in NCAA?

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                      • kcarr
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 2812

                        #71
                        Re: PLAYBOOK BLOG IS UP!!!!

                        Originally posted by Wet Bandit
                        But those covered players would only be an issue if they can actually catch a pass, right? And we don't know whether that's the case.
                        If they catch a pass or go downfield on a play where there is a forward pass. If they go downfield it is still an ineligible receiver downfield as being covered like they are they are a lineman. Just pointing it out in an attempt to make sure they are aware and do it correctly.

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                        • stylee
                          Rookie
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 317

                          #72
                          Re: NCAA Football 10 Blog: The Rebirth of the Flexbone Offense

                          kcarr - good points.

                          Paul Johnson runs formations with ineligible WRs quite often. I think the playbooks will probably keep these guys from having pass patterns.

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                          • JerseySuave4
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 5176

                            #73
                            Re: PLAYBOOK BLOG IS UP!!!!

                            this is beautiful, one of the teams i was going to create runs this offense. Now if we can just get some custom playbooks we'd be set.

                            In the videos though it looks like the motion guy is in super fast motion and the players are moving 100 miles per hour, hopefully they move more fluid and realistic in the game and it wont look so fast like in these vids.
                            Last edited by JerseySuave4; 05-08-2009, 03:43 PM.

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                            • Wet Bandit
                              MVP
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 1748

                              #74
                              Re: PLAYBOOK BLOG IS UP!!!!

                              Originally posted by kcarr
                              If they catch a pass or go downfield on a play where there is a forward pass. If they go downfield it is still an ineligible receiver downfield as being covered like they are they are a lineman. Just pointing it out in an attempt to make sure they are aware and do it correctly.
                              No reason to worry, I'm assuming. They've had the I-Form Y-Trips formation in the game for years, and it's never been a problem. That's the one where the TE lines up on the right, the split end covers him on the right, and the flanker plays off the line in between the two. There's never been a play from that formation that had the covered TE do anything other than block.

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                              • sportzbro
                                MVP
                                • May 2008
                                • 3912

                                #75
                                Re: NCAA Football 10 Blog: The Rebirth of the Flexbone Offense

                                Originally posted by canes21
                                I'm surprised no one has mentioned the difference in the new running animation.
                                I wasn't really impressed by the run animations. Still too robotic..I wonder why they just don't go back and build of the ones from last gen (or get in touch with the madden animation crew and work together on fixing it)

                                Originally posted by J.R. Locke
                                Line play is still nowhere close.

                                They need wider splits to open up holes....fundamental football....

                                As I thought it would be though.
                                Yes, the line looks like a bunch of zombies moving to wherever. It would have been nice to show these plays against an actual defense.

                                I'm glad the flexbone has been addressed (even though only a handful of teams run it) but if the OL/DL still runs like garbage, then it will be a worthless endeavor updating this formation.

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