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  • hmoob
    Banned
    • Feb 2009
    • 93

    #106
    Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

    Originally posted by TDogg09
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVh0n...layer_embedded

    That's pretty arcady in my opinion. I'm guessing by that statement though, going for an "Any Given Sunday" feel, it means really exaggerating what happens in football, which is not sim, it's more arcade.
    Since you like Madden, I'm guessing your opinion of sim and arcade is pretty distorted anyways.

    I can confidently say that you will buy Backbreaker when it comes out.

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    • TDogg09
      Pro
      • Jun 2008
      • 567

      #107
      Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

      Originally posted by hmoob
      I can confidently say that you will buy Backbreaker when it comes out.
      And you would be right. I am going to buy both Madden and Backbreaker. I can confidently say that the Backbreaker guys aren't focusing as much on "sim" as Ian is.

      And if you think a guy getting flipped twice in the air (as per the "Any Given Sunday" trailer) is realism, I think you aren't quite sure what sim is either
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      • icomb1ne
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        • Jun 2008
        • 486

        #108
        Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

        Originally posted by hmoob
        Since you like Madden, I'm guessing your opinion of sim and arcade is pretty distorted anyways.
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        • hmoob
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          • Feb 2009
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          #109
          Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

          Originally posted by TDogg09
          And you would be right. I am going to buy both Madden and Backbreaker. I can confidently say that the Backbreaker guys aren't focusing as much on "sim" as Ian is.
          I can also confidently say that you will play BB much more than Madden. I doubt you will tell me the truth when the time comes though, and you don't have to, because I'll be playing BB more also

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          • TDogg09
            Pro
            • Jun 2008
            • 567

            #110
            Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

            Originally posted by hmoob
            I can also confidently say that you will play BB much more than Madden. I doubt you will tell me the truth when the time comes though, and you don't have to, because I'll be playing BB more also
            I wouldn't know the answer yet. You may be right, you may be wrong. I'm pretty psyched about both Madden and Backbreaker, so I will probably play them both quite a bit.

            And if you are right, at least i'll have a couple months to play Madden before Backbreaker comes out
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            • kmart2180
              Pro
              • Jul 2006
              • 892

              #111
              Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

              Originally posted by hmoob
              I can also confidently say that you will play BB much more than Madden. I doubt you will tell me the truth when the time comes though, and you don't have to, because I'll be playing BB more also
              Then I can confidently assume you prefer arcadey/Blitz like football then sim style football. There is nothing wrong with that. I much prefer the slower paced sim but we all have are own likes/dislikes.
              Madden25 next gen cant come soon enough!!!

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              • hmoob
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                • Feb 2009
                • 93

                #112
                Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

                Originally posted by kmart2180
                Then I can confidently assume you prefer arcadey/Blitz like football then sim style football. There is nothing wrong with that. I much prefer the slower paced sim but we all have are own likes/dislikes.
                Football is anything but slow paced, my boy. It may look slow-paced on TV, but things are as fast as can be on the field. And that's what BB is aiming for. BB is simulation, just from a different perspective, and if you call that arcade, you need to read a dictionary.

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                • kmart2180
                  Pro
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 892

                  #113
                  Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

                  Originally posted by hmoob
                  Football is anything but slow paced, my boy. It may look slow-paced on TV, but things are as fast as can be on the field. And that's what BB is aiming for. BB is simulation, just from a different perspective, and if you call that arcade, you need to read a dictionary.
                  Im not gonna argue this point with you because TheWatcher already has and it still hasnt sunken into you but if you think that the way BB portrays football is the way it is played in the NFL then I would love to borrow a pair of your glasses cause I would love to see the NFL on Juice.

                  Those tackles in the video might happen 1-2 times in a whole game. There are more instances of struggle and wrapping up in the NFL then those insane blow up hits in BB. If you cannot see that then I dont know what else to say.
                  Madden25 next gen cant come soon enough!!!

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                  • roadman
                    *ll St*r
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 26339

                    #114
                    Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

                    Originally posted by hmoob
                    Lol, you'll support Madden to no end, even though it screwed you 4 times, in the a**. You're just really uneducated in a lot of things.

                    Also, that Pro-Tak gang-tackling looks like they're having a group hugs.
                    I would suggest you do your homework and find out who The Watcher is. It is easy to distinguish who is the uneducated one.

                    I'll give you a hint, go back a few post and you will have your answer.

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                    • hmoob
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 93

                      #115
                      Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

                      Originally posted by roadman
                      I would suggest you do your homework and find out who The Watcher is. It is easy to distinguish who is the uneducated one.

                      I'll give you a hint, go back a few post and you will have your answer.
                      I honestly don't care about people's assumed "status" in this forum. I judge people on what they post, and you should, too. Don't take authority/status as truth or facts.

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                      • roadman
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                        • Aug 2003
                        • 26339

                        #116
                        Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

                        Originally posted by hmoob
                        I honestly don't care about people's assumed "status" in this forum. I judge people on what they post, and you should, too. Don't take authority/status as truth or facts.
                        Status/Authority what?

                        Nevermind, man, I tried.

                        I've been around here long enough to separate the truths/facts from opinion, but thanks anyway for the advice.

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                        • hmoob
                          Banned
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 93

                          #117
                          Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

                          Originally posted by roadman
                          thanks anyway for the advice.
                          No problem.

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                          • Valdarez
                            All Star
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 5075

                            #118
                            Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

                            Originally posted by TDogg09
                            http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/901/901664p1.html

                            4th paragraph down, right under the picture.
                            Thanks for the link TDogg.

                            Originally posted by IGNStory
                            Rather than gunning for the simulation crown that Madden currently holds, NaturalMotion is going for arcade gameplay that has the most realistic motion ever seen in a videogame. You'll see things like defenders taking off from three yards away to lay the smack down on an unsuspecting quarterback and airborne receivers getting flipped end over end when trying to make a catch. It's nowhere near as ridiculous as Midway's Blitz but it does cash in on the same freedoms that come with the lack of the NFL license.
                            If the IGN guys got it wrong, then the BB team should have them print a retraction. If the BB developers have stated otherwise, then lets see a link to it on their boards.

                            Regardless of what backbreaker ends up being, the point is clear, the BB videos show that the game has 'ump' and as the OP pointed out, Madden's ProTak has yet to show us some umpf.
                            Last edited by Valdarez; 05-09-2009, 01:49 AM.
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                            • Valdarez
                              All Star
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 5075

                              #119
                              Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

                              Originally posted by TDogg09
                              I wouldn't know the answer yet. You may be right, you may be wrong. I'm pretty psyched about both Madden and Backbreaker, so I will probably play them both quite a bit.
                              I can't say I'm truly psyched for either game, but each game is holding my interest for different reasons. Madden because it looks like they are finally attempting to make a realistic football game (simulation) and backbreaker because of that ever so slick animation engine / physics / every tackle is unique technology.
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                              • shift9k
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                                • Apr 2009
                                • 168

                                #120
                                Re: EA's Pro Tak needs ump I know its WIP....

                                Originally posted by Valdarez
                                because of that ever so slick animation engine / physics / every tackle is unique technology.
                                I gotta admit, that sounds a little better than pro-tak.

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