Madden NFL 10 Video: Pro-TAK Animation System

[Derrville]

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Looking at it more closely though, you can see the video is cut on the back of Tillman's jersey. Maybe the image of his lower leg is distorted due to the video being cut in that area and making it look like a toothpick???

Possibly, but why would everything around his leg be visible and the background

[thmst30]

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Quick comparison of gang tackling screens taken from Madden 09 and Madden 10 videos. Little improvement if any.:wink: Keep it up Madden dev team! DOF, chain gang, colored cleats, hand towels, much better lighting, multiple people in on the tackle, the grass is greener (literally and figuratively).

Madden 09


Madden 10

[TDogg09]

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Quick comparison of gang tackling screens taken from Madden 09 and Madden 10 videos. Little improvement if any.:wink: Keep it up Madden dev team! DOF, chain gang, colored cleats, hand towels, much better lighting, multiple people in on the tackle, the grass is greener (literally and figuratively).

Madden 09


Madden 10

Holy cow. It's amazing that that is only one year's difference.

[Furq]

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Quick comparison of gang tackling screens taken from Madden 09 and Madden 10 videos. Little improvement if any.:wink: Keep it up Madden dev team! DOF, chain gang, colored cleats, hand towels, much better lighting, multiple people in on the tackle, the grass is greener (literally and figuratively).

Madden 09


Madden 10

The '10 pic honestly looks like a real tv telecast. the graphics in that picture at least look photo realistic

[shift9k]

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I think I read somewhere that ian said that the marketing team was gonna release some stuff a little early and for us to not freak out. Is this that stuff?

Btw the people that said that they were happy no one was gonna post about colored cleats anymore. Well the majority of this thread has turned into colored cleats comments. Except this time you contributed!

Thanks for the colored cleats EA.

[LongBeach562]

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game is looking way better, just hope the gang tackles are better by the final product.

[TheSaint92]

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Why didn't you watch the other half?

I got too excited. But it just got better.

[shift9k]

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I think more and more videos are going to be coming out by our marketing department and from preview events...just wanted to let you guys know what's missing from the feature still that we are working on (this also is a bit of a response to apex and co. and their critiques).

The biggest missing feature is probably carrying through velocity from original animations -> PRO-TAK. You can see that on the Lendale White video...meaning that when players transition from a normal mocap tackle into PRO-TAK stuff their velocities get zeroed out (meaning they stop in place). This will definitely be addressed before we ship...our goal is that you don't even notice the transition from one to the other...it should just look like another guy added on seamlessly. This is causing a lot of the feeling of "it needs more umph"...

Second biggest is the "warping" into the PRO-TAK multi-man stuff. This hasn't been tuned really so guys are just 'suction-ing' like magnets to the ballcarrier. Also when the guys add on the goal is that they drastically effect the pile's velocity and positioning and stuff...right now they just attach and that's about it. Again when the feature is actually done you should feel a lot more 'power' when these guys hit the pile.

The "endless chopping" stuff is often turned on for demo purposes...this will really not happen in the game when it ships...you'll see a guy drive forward and they'll then get pushed to fall forward or backward (or sideways or whatever) way quicker than just standing up chopping their feet.

Lastly, we really don't have barely any animation variety in there yet. We're looking to at least add quadruple the amount of stuff to keep it fresh. We've built some new tech this year that basically swaps the animation banks for each PRO-TAK set of animations after they play (moving them to the end of the list after they do), but up until basically today we haven't had the variety to swap. That will be coming very soon as well.

So anyway, I don't want to act like I don't want feedback from you guys as you see the new stuff...all of it is valuable and please keep posting...but I also wanted to let you know what we're currently working on. We definitely aren't going to be spending our whole cycle on this tech to have it not come out looking perfect. We just have to balance the needs of marketing to show stuff early even when it's not done.

- Ian

This is the post I was talking about.

[icomb1ne]

Re: new espn video of madden pro-tak

Quick comparison of gang tackling screens taken from Madden 09 and Madden 10 videos. Little improvement if any.:wink: Keep it up Madden dev team! DOF, chain gang, colored cleats, hand towels, much better lighting, multiple people in on the tackle, the grass is greener (literally and figuratively).

Great comparison shots!!!


And really nice work so far Ian n' Co!!!!!

[afro_dogg20]

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Madden 10

That screenshot is so good, i actually thought it was a real photo when i first looked at it.

[Behindshadows]

Re: new espn video of madden pro-tak

Quick comparison of gang tackling screens taken from Madden 09 and Madden 10 videos. Little improvement if any.:wink: Keep it up Madden dev team! DOF, chain gang, colored cleats, hand towels, much better lighting, multiple people in on the tackle, the grass is greener (literally and figuratively).

Madden 09


Madden 10

I was just about to tell people to pause the video at the 1:05 mark to see that, but you captured it.

This game looks so damn real! I'm sold!

They better have a collector's edition too, because I want another one just like Madden NFL 09's!

Let me know if there will be a Collector's Edition Ian! or Phil! And I'll go pre-order in full tomorrow!

[SouthernBrick]

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Love this shot. This by far is the best screen shot of any of the screens I have seen already. The Jacksonville screens were pretty good but, this one takes the cake. OS should get this in HD or even just add this screen to the others. Its the best.

[NYyankz225]

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I was just about to tell people to pause the video at the 1:05 mark to see that, but you captured it.

This game looks so damn real! I'm sold!

They better have a collector's edition too, because I want another one just like Madden NFL 09's!

Let me know if there will be a Collector's Edition Ian! or Phil! And I'll go pre-order in full tomorrow!

Just a tip: Don't pre order it in full .

Present value of a dollar and all that. Plus Ian and Co. don't get another dime from an early pre order anyway...it's all Gamestop.

I'm putting a preorder down but not till closer to release and I'll only put 5 down. Might as well let my money sit in the bank for as long as it can.

[NYGmen56]

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Quick comparison of gang tackling screens taken from Madden 09 and Madden 10 videos. Little improvement if any.:wink: Keep it up Madden dev team! DOF, chain gang, colored cleats, hand towels, much better lighting, multiple people in on the tackle, the grass is greener (literally and figuratively).

Madden 09


Madden 10

The video looks good Ian.. But can we do something about the sock length?! Socks need to be longer! It just enhances the players and realism so much! We see it on Sundays, why not in Madden???

[SouthernBrick]

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Just a tip: Don't pre order it in full .

Present value of a dollar and all that. Plus Ian and Co. don't get another dime from an early pre order anyway...it's all Gamestop.

I'm putting a preorder down but not till closer to release and I'll only put 5 down. Might as well let my money sit in the bank for as long as it can.

Yeah I've had it pre-ordered for a long time now. No since in buying it now, when you can just buy it when it comes out.

Question for a dev if you can answer this, what happens to the other players while there are 9 guys pushing the pile? What will they be doing since they will not be able to get into the pile?

Has this been discussed???