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  • CreatineKasey
    MVP
    • Sep 2007
    • 4897

    #16
    Re: Joystiq Impressions: Madden NFL 10 (5/18)

    Originally posted by PlyrzNumber1
    I think it's a bit funny that somebody who never played the game before, is criticizing Joystiq's impressions of the game (a site that actually played the game, that has been on point about a number of gaming matters over the years).
    +1

    It's too early to jump on websites for something you've never seen, only heard from developers who MAKE THE GAME. You guys will discredit yourselves by criticizing something you know nothing about. We are better than that here at OS.
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    • buddyhobbs321813
      Banned
      • Apr 2009
      • 626

      #17
      Re: Joystiq Impressions: Madden NFL 10 (5/18)

      Originally posted by CreatineKasey
      +1

      It's too early to jump on websites for something you've never seen, only heard from developers who MAKE THE GAME. You guys will discredit yourselves by criticizing something you know nothing about. We are better than that here at OS.
      do you know better? i think not
      we had guys from this website test the game and they say it is alot better so maybe you should pay more attention

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      • Bgamer90
        MVP
        • Jul 2008
        • 1919

        #18
        Re: Joystiq Impressions: Madden NFL 10 (5/18)

        Originally posted by CreatineKasey
        +1

        It's too early to jump on websites for something you've never seen, only heard from developers who MAKE THE GAME. You guys will discredit yourselves by criticizing something you know nothing about. We are better than that here at OS.
        We have heard more impressions from people outside of just the developers...
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        • buddyhobbs321813
          Banned
          • Apr 2009
          • 626

          #19
          Re: Joystiq Impressions: Madden NFL 10 (5/18)

          Originally posted by PlyrzNumber1
          I think it's a bit funny that somebody who never played the game before, is criticizing Joystiq's impressions of the game (a site that actually played the game, that has been on point about a number of gaming matters over the years).
          -100
          community day guys from this site have played the game

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          • roadman
            *ll St*r
            • Aug 2003
            • 26339

            #20
            Re: Joystiq Impressions: Madden NFL 10 (5/18)

            Originally posted by CreatineKasey
            +1

            It's too early to jump on websites for something you've never seen, only heard from developers who MAKE THE GAME. You guys will discredit yourselves by criticizing something you know nothing about. We are better than that here at OS.
            Maybe you were not around the forums in early April, but Ian chose 8 folks to come down and pick apart Madden. They were all from OS and gave out constructive criticism of the Madden series.

            I've know of these posters for a least 2 years, some more than that,and a few less than that.

            I'll take those that I know here at OS over any gaming site on the net.

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            • Brnto4life
              Banned
              • May 2005
              • 157

              #21
              Re: Joystiq Impressions: Madden NFL 10 (5/18)

              Jeez, I was hoping people would comment more on the fact that Joystiq talked about these new updates to franchise and this supposed "presentation mode". I should have known better though...

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              • CreatineKasey
                MVP
                • Sep 2007
                • 4897

                #22
                Re: Joystiq Impressions: Madden NFL 10 (5/18)

                Originally posted by roadman
                Maybe you were not around the forums in early April, but Ian chose 8 folks to come down and pick apart Madden. They were all from OS and gave out constructive criticism of the Madden series.

                I've know of these posters for a least 2 years, some more than that,and a few less than that.

                I'll take those that I know here at OS over any gaming site on the net.
                I was. I just don't like seeing this criticism. It feels unfounded to me. Yes, we had people come play the game and say they liked it. The people that are talking down any criticism aren't these people.

                Were these opinions discussed constructively? nope... just junk like "This is why I hate such and such site".

                How about constructing a thought? Let's see... maybe from what we've heard they don't appreciate the intricacies we look for a in a football game. Gleaning from what they said, maybe the casual player will not fully acknowledge changes that we find game changing. That could be an interesting perspective to keep in mind as the game's information is released. The reviewer probably doesn't know football, and to the common player it might feel the same.

                That's a valid observation. No need to hate. Maybe casual fans won't think it's different. Again - we are better here at OS. I go here for stimulating discussions on football and Madden, not silly comments like these. I'm just a bit disappointed.
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                • Bgamer90
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 1919

                  #23
                  Re: Joystiq Impressions: Madden NFL 10 (5/18)

                  Originally posted by CreatineKasey
                  How about constructing a thought? Let's see... maybe from what we've heard they don't appreciate the intricacies we look for a in a football game. Gleaning from what they said, maybe the casual player will not fully acknowledge changes that we find game changing. That could be an interesting perspective to keep in mind as the game's information is released. The reviewer probably doesn't know football, and to the common player it might feel the same.

                  That's a valid observation. No need to hate. Maybe casual fans won't think it's different. Again - we are better here at OS. I go here for stimulating discussions on football and Madden, not silly comments like these. I'm just a bit disappointed.
                  That's basically what I said in my post.

                  I don't know if you are referring to me though...
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                  • Bgamer90
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 1919

                    #24
                    Re: Joystiq Impressions: Madden NFL 10 (5/18)

                    Originally posted by Brnto4life
                    Jeez, I was hoping people would comment more on the fact that Joystiq talked about these new updates to franchise and this supposed "presentation mode". I should have known better though...
                    The new updates to franchise mode have been known for a while now. The new presentation mode seems interesting, but since they didn't say anything about it I can't really comment on it...
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                    • PlyrzNumber1
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 435

                      #25
                      Re: Joystiq Impressions: Madden NFL 10 (5/18)

                      -100
                      community day guys from this site have played the game
                      Again, that begs the question: If you were one of 8 (out of thousands of people), to be flown in to Madden's development studio, to play an early version of the game (some people drive hundreds of miles, and pay hundreds of dollars over retail price to play the game 24 hours before it's available at a local retailers), and give your feedback -- do you think you could come back to the message board, and be 100% unbiased with your opinion of what you played?

                      As truthful, fair, and unbiased that I believe I am; If I were one of the lucky "8", I'd have a hard time being frank about my impressions of the game, even if I didn't see a single improvement. Maybe this is a personal problem, but I can only trust my intuition on the matter. The lucky 8's opinion (outside of maybe LBzrule, as he hasn't been as dedicated an apologist as some of the others), IMO, is clumped in with the rest of the Madden/EA team, whose word is on questionable merit with me given their track record.
                      Last edited by PlyrzNumber1; 05-18-2009, 05:33 PM.

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                      • Brnto4life
                        Banned
                        • May 2005
                        • 157

                        #26
                        Re: Joystiq Impressions: Madden NFL 10 (5/18)

                        Originally posted by Bgamer90
                        The new updates to franchise mode have been known for a while now. The new presentation mode seems interesting, but since they didn't say anything about it I can't really comment on it...
                        But that's why speculating is fun.

                        As for franchise, what have we heard? All I remember being talked about was the Inside EA Blog that simply went through updates to logic and whatnot. That doesn't strike me as "enhanced". I guess I'm just imagining some new features to franchise...

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                        • Bgamer90
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 1919

                          #27
                          Re: Joystiq Impressions: Madden NFL 10 (5/18)

                          Originally posted by PlyrzNumber1
                          Again, that begs the question: If you were one of 8 (out of thousands of people), to be flown in to Madden's development studio, to play an early version of the game (some people drive hundreds of miles, and pay hundreds of dollars over retail price to play the game 24 hours before it's available at a local retailers), and give your feedback -- do you think you could come back to the message board, and be 100% unbiased with your opinion of what you played?

                          As truthful, fair, and unbiased that I believe I am; If I were one of the lucky "8", I'd have a hard time being frank about my impressions of the game, even if I didn't see a single improvement. Maybe this is a personal problem, but I can only trust my intuition on the matter. The lucky 8's opinion (outside of maybe LBzrule, as he hasn't been as dedicated an apologist as some of the others), IMO, is clumped in with the rest of the Madden/EA team, whose word is on questionable merit with me given their track record.
                          They have all gave a bunch of things that were still wrong with the game in its stage during the time...

                          Please don't turn this into another "question the credibility of the testers" thread.
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                          • buddyhobbs321813
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 626

                            #28
                            Re: Joystiq Impressions: Madden NFL 10 (5/18)

                            Originally posted by PlyrzNumber1
                            Again, that begs the question: If you were one of 8 (out of thousands of people), to be flown in to Madden's development studio, to play an early version of the game (some people drive hundreds of miles, and pay hundreds of dollars over retail price to play the game 24 hours before it's available at a local retailers), and give your feedback -- do you think you could come back to the message board, and be 100% unbiased with your opinion of what you played?

                            As truthful, fair, and unbiased that I believe I am; If I were one of the lucky "8", I'd have a hard time being frank about my impressions of the game, even if I didn't see a single improvement. Maybe this is a personal problem, but I can only trust my intuition on the matter. The lucky 8's opinion (outside of maybe LBzrule, as he hasn't been as dedicated an apologist as some of the others), IMO, is clumped in with the rest of the Madden/EA team, whose word is on questionable merit with me given their track record.
                            wow really i dont see how that would make someone biased at all they did criticize the problems that they saw so no i believe your wrong

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                            • Derrville
                              Banned
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 1623

                              #29
                              Re: Joystiq Impressions: Madden NFL 10 (5/18)

                              Originally posted by CreatineKasey
                              I was. I just don't like seeing this criticism. It feels unfounded to me. Yes, we had people come play the game and say they liked it. The people that are talking down any criticism aren't these people.

                              Were these opinions discussed constructively? nope... just junk like "This is why I hate such and such site".

                              How about constructing a thought? Let's see... maybe from what we've heard they don't appreciate the intricacies we look for a in a football game. Gleaning from what they said, maybe the casual player will not fully acknowledge changes that we find game changing. That could be an interesting perspective to keep in mind as the game's information is released. The reviewer probably doesn't know football, and to the common player it might feel the same.

                              That's a valid observation. No need to hate. Maybe casual fans won't think it's different. Again - we are better here at OS. I go here for stimulating discussions on football and Madden, not silly comments like these. I'm just a bit disappointed.
                              +1 Good post Kasey, cept the we are better here at OS, theres alot of Jerks here man.

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                              • Derrville
                                Banned
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 1623

                                #30
                                Re: Joystiq Impressions: Madden NFL 10 (5/18)

                                BTW what is a site that you guys would trust when giving an opinion about Madden 10?

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