Madden NFL 10 Hands-On Preview (Joystiq)

[Valdarez]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Hands-On Preview (Joystiq)

I tend to find reviewers whose opinions I trust rather than trusting a game site carte blanche. IGN though, as a whole, seems to be fairly lenient with the quality of the reviewers they employ.

[spankdatazz22]

Re: Joystiq Impressions: Madden NFL 10 (5/18)

I felt that even OS scores were inflated for the Madden series. When Madden was really bad this gen where were the bad scores. Game play takes a back seat relative to features and graphics. Just read and watch the reviews for APF. Great game play takes a longer time to evaluate and most reviewers don't have the time.

I'd agree; I'm not quick to take OS reviews as gospel either. Back in '07 some of us went back and forth with the way OS reviewed Madden '08 and APF2K8. Granted different reviewers are sometimes going to have different approaches to reviewing games but the way those games were reviewed I would've expected it would've occurred in reverse given the situation (licensed vs. unlicensed; 2K8's first iteration vs. Madden's 3rd, etc.). There was far more expected of APF than of either Madden or NCAA that year, and far more detail in the APF review versus the other two. The reviews were all well written; it was just interesting to see the starkly different expectations of each

[AllenRulz00]

Wow, everything I've seen so far looks like a brand new game and NOT like the years past.

[R9NALD9]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Hands-On Preview (Joystiq)

It doesn't matter who you are, the fact that 2 previews, not 1 but 2 previews mentioned that Madden 10 felt like previous installments are quite concerning. Everybody here is expecting the much needed revolution, and not evolution since over the years the glitches, errors and general lacking in most departments have piled up considerably in the Madden franchise.

I've read through all the posts in this thread, and it's quite ironic for me to see how aggresively some people are defending Madden nfl 10 saying the people writing the previews no nothing etc. I for one would like to believe this, since I'm bored playing nfl 2k5 all these years and would kill for a decent representation of football within a Madden game, BUT I will never ever defend a game I hadn't played, nor would I defend a game someone I know on a forum has played.

I want to believe all the theories why the gamesites said what they said, but no one can deny that they are dissapointed that two previews stated that Madden 10 feels a lot like previous version. These people defending Madden 10 are nothing but so dissapointed that they refuse the accept it. Believe me when I say that I for one really and truly hope that they got it wrong and that this year's Madden is exactly what it's hyped up to be.

But I can't help but be shocked and dissapointed. I fear that Pro Tak is the gimmick like QB vision etc. was.

Let's hope I'm a **** and completely wrong

[Derrville]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Hands-On Preview (Joystiq)

I cant stand IGN either but ill respect their input on the game

[countryboy]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Hands-On Preview (Joystiq)

Another preview...another one man's opinion.

I'll never understand the idea of holding previews/reviews as the be all, end all overall opinion of the game. One site says one thing, another site says the complete opposite. If you're in any way shape or form intrigued by a game then you should at the very least try it yourself.

Its opinions that get published on websites or in articles, nothing more. Its no different than reading the wide spectrum of opinions here on OS, when people are providing their impressions, de-bugging the game, and offering up their .02.

[Derrville]

Re: Joystiq Impressions: Madden NFL 10 (5/18)

Very Selective posting. Here is the piece you so appropriately left out.



Selective reading is fun.

Great, The CPU will still play like it normally did, but this time throw incompletions. AMAZING.

[roadman]

Re: Joystiq Impressions: Madden NFL 10 (5/18)

Some of the things you mention - by many forum members' own admittance - long should've been in the game anyway. So these things deserve mention now that they're being done? The argument could be made that these things should be expected on some level and don't necessarily deserve special notice.

Either way, come review time people will look to have their views reinforced. Despite IGN's history at overrating the game, I'm sure if they give Madden a 9+, those that feel the game deserves that rating will view their opinion as legitimate. If IGN gives it a sub-8 score, those same people will say IGN's full of idiots. And the same vice versa for people that aren't that enamored with the game. As someone else mentioned earlier though, it will be interesting if various gaming sites finally start taking a look at the game with more scrutiny - a trend that sort of started last year with '09

The bottom line is it's being implemented now. If people still want to hold the old flaming torch high about not being in the game in the past, that's their prerogative, there isn't anything to do to change history. I just feel that is being counterproductive, true or not. I don't worry about things that are out of my control.

If IGN gives the game a 9 plus, I would have really have to take a second look at the game myself. The same goes if they go 7 or below.

As I said before, personally, I don't go ape over any websites grade for any game. If I did that with movies or music, I would miss out on a lot of good movies or music.

I'm mine own best critic and yes, I've made mistakes before just as the critics have.

[roadman]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Hands-On Preview (Joystiq)

Another preview...another one man's opinion.

I'll never understand the idea of holding previews/reviews as the be all, end all overall opinion of the game. One site says one thing, another site says the complete opposite. If you're in any way shape or form intrigued by a game then you should at the very least try it yourself.

Its opinions that get published on websites or in articles, nothing more. Its no different than reading the wide spectrum of opinions here on OS, when people are providing their impressions, de-bugging the game, and offering up their .02.

Well said and well put.

Exactly how I feel about gaming, music and movies. I'll make my own decision, not have it influenced by anything or anyone else.

[Clarke_311]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Hands-On Preview (Joystiq)

I guess we'll find out on August 14.

[PlyrzNumber1]

Re: Joystiq Impressions: Madden NFL 10 (5/18)

The bottom line is it's being implemented now. If people still want to hold the old flaming torch high about not being in the game in the past, that's their prerogative, there isn't anything to do to change history. I just feel that is being counterproductive, true or not. I don't worry about things that are out of my control.

I don't think Spank was saying that it isn't a good thing that those items are being added now. I think he was saying that maybe we're giving too much praise for items and improvements in the game that should be expected from any development team trying to make an accurate portrayal of professional american football.

In other words: I think he's saying, that in general, our expectations may be too low.

[Derrville]

Re: Joystiq Impressions: Madden NFL 10 (5/18)

I don't think Spank was saying that it isn't a good thing that those items are being added now. I think he was saying that maybe we're giving too much praise for items and improvements in the game that should be expected from any development team trying to make an accurate portrayal of professional american football.

In other words: I think he's saying, that in general, our expectations may be too low.

Thats a good way to put it

[roadman]

Re: Joystiq Impressions: Madden NFL 10 (5/18)

I don't think Spank was saying that it isn't a good thing that those items are being added now. I think he was saying that maybe we're giving too much praise for items and improvements in the game that should be expected from any development team trying to make an accurate portrayal of professional american football.

In other words: I think he's saying, that in general, our expectations may be too low.

Understood, but I think some people on both sides aren't understanding each other view's and opinions.

Take me for example. I've bought Madden every year since 92. It's a tradition with me since my college days up to playing against my 14 yr old son. I also play more of 2k5 than I do Madden with my son.

Lately, Madden has not been a fun franchise experience where 2k5 seems to nail most areas.

I'm excited as hell that Madden is adding in items and improvements from this development team trying to make a accurate portrait of NFL football. I understand peoples frustrations about the lack of authenticity Madden has lacked lately.

So, I just don't understand why people , such as myself, who's purchased Madden traditionally over the past few decades can't express their happiness that these missing items are being added to the game, while listening to people who are equally frustrated with the past games.

I just don't understand why one side needs to quite their enthusiasm while the other side can beat the negative drums loudly.

Madden has been under performing for a few years. If people are excited about the information being released, let them be excited. I just don't feel the need for people to come in and tell people to curb their enthusiasm, especially since Madden has been under performing on NG.

I feel both sides can co-exist peacefully, if allowed to.

[TheWatcher]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Hands-On Preview (Joystiq)

It doesn't matter who you are, the fact that 2 previews, not 1 but 2 previews mentioned that Madden 10 felt like previous installments are quite concerning.

I can't wait until August 14th. People will be laughing about the magazine comment on that. I'm already laughing because I played both 09 and 10 and the difference is obvious like if someone walked into a room with no pants on... I'd just say, take a look at what some of these mags said about Madden 08 before you give them much more credit, lol.

I've read through all the posts in this thread, and it's quite ironic for me to see how aggresively some people are defending Madden nfl 10 saying the people writing the previews no nothing etc. I for one would like to believe this, since I'm bored playing nfl 2k5 all these years and would kill for a decent representation of football within a Madden game, BUT I will never ever defend a game I hadn't played, nor would I defend a game someone I know on a forum has played.

For me it's not even a matter of defense. It's about saying what's true and what's not. There are plenty of things I agree with from these articles, actually most of it. But their assertion that the game doesn't feel any different is just untrue... it's almost slanderous, lol. The dropback alone feels a lot like All Pro Football 2K8 (Maybe they've never played it before?), and even if you've never played APF, you should be able to see the difference anyway. But like I said, people will see soon enough.

These people defending Madden 10 are nothing but so dissapointed that they refuse the accept it.

Maybe for some people, but for me that's not the case at all. I'm actually happy that EA listened to what I was saying about weight and momentum, and then had the vision to add the tweakable functions to customize it and the overall speed.

But I can't help but be shocked and dissapointed. I fear that Pro Tak is the gimmick like QB vision etc. was.

Let's hope I'm a **** and completely wrong

I don't get that at all. How can gang-tackles and pileups--two things that are core to football--be a gimmick?

[spankdatazz22]

Re: Joystiq Impressions: Madden NFL 10 (5/18)

The bottom line is it's being implemented now. If people still want to hold the old flaming torch high about not being in the game in the past, that's their prerogative, there isn't anything to do to change history. I just feel that is being counterproductive, true or not. I don't worry about things that are out of my control.

I was only responding to your issues w/the preview citing certain things they didn't acknowledge. Things that are expected are of course always appreciated on some level, but aren't necessarily worth mentioning or deserve praise just because they're being done. You go to a sit down restaurant you expect to be served by a waiter/waitress; you pay taxes you expect for the city to provide certain services; etc. The times when these things deserve praise is when they go beyond what's expected.

As I said before, personally, I don't go ape over any websites grade for any game. If I did that with movies or music, I would miss out on a lot of good movies or music.

I'm mine own best critic and yes, I've made mistakes before just as the critics have.

Agreed