NCAA Football 10 Blog: Season Showdown: Show Your Skills

[Rivers17ncsu]

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atleast got to see a small clip of NC State intercepting UNC lol

[firktaf]

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Here's what I don't get about them trying to encourage sportsmanship through Season Showdown. Football teams don't punt the ball on 4th down out of sportsmanship. They punt because there's a low chance of converting and would rather not risk giving the other team good field position. If teams could go for it in real life on 4th down and convert 80+% of the time, then teams would go for the 1st down the majority of the time. If the video game could accurately represent the difficulty of achieving this, then most people would play the game correctly. This just seems like an unnecessary addition to influence playing the game correctly instead of making the game play more realistically.

And, the other sportsmanship areas that I can think of(excessive onside kicks, running up the score, celebrating...any other ones?) won't be as much of a factor as the 4th down punts.

....oh, and it was nice to see the some of the game in the video.

[stevedrumsdw]

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CocaCola must have parked a dump truck full of money in front of the studio for such a small feature to get so much hype.

YES LOL

[boritter]

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Did I miss the announcement that NCAA is now a gimmicky game for casual fans? Give us gameplay improvements first, then add window dressing.

[Moostache]

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For what its worth, the team selection aspect of SS is a circus sideshow...that is nothing more than Coke Zero marketing and stupidity - I understand why it is there, and how it can be forced onto the developers by the bean counters and powers-that-be; but the other aspects of SS, the ones that players' profiles will display and can be measured against what they are doing in games and how they play, will be very cool. As it is now, I find that about 1 or 2 out of every 10 games I play is against a worth-while opponent...knowing in advance that someone is nothing more than a stick jockey with a bad attitude will be manna from heaven to me and many other online players who are just sick of playing these asshats online.

SS for online play is going to be a HUGE improvement simply by being able to see what a player's score in these areas is before playing them. I can guarantee that the people with big Skills #'s and low Sportsmanship #'s will be avoided like the plague and will make my online experience 1000x better just from that addition alone. Anything that offers us better feedback on players is a big time improvement, whether it should have been there before or not.

Player lock is a chance to make the game play differently and to experience the game from a different camera angle - something that is also a big improvement. Playing as a LB and not being able to shift off of that player makes playing defense a whole new experience - even if you could do this in the past, the added camera angle makes it better than the old opt-in way.

I look forward to using that more than anything else - as long as it is enabled for online dynasty play...hell I might start a Dynasty that looks to get 12 guys together who all sim the offense and play only as MLB or SS for an entire season to see who can win the post-season awards or make the greatest number of user tackles and so on. The point being that it offers us new ways to play the game and is actual innovation instead of a reheated NCAA 2009.5 with different player data.

If I were a developer; and I had to read 1/4 of the bile and immature nonsense in this thread, I would officially make EVERY blog from now until the release nothing but Season Showdown - and I would go into excruciating detail about the most mundane parts of it. Have at it Ben...please make not just the next 2 blogs about the SS, make the rest of them nothing more than full-on in-depth essays on stuff like:

Week 1 - Skills
Week 2 - Strategy
Week 3 - Sportsmanship
Week 4 - Loyalty
Week 5 - Underdog
Week 6 - ESPN Classics
Week 7 - Recap them all with a montage (or just expand on something else...lol)

Hell, I would make them LONGER and more boring just to fuvk with the people on the various forums who are acting like teenage girls who got felt-up at the prom...

[boritter]

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If teams could go for it in real life on 4th down and convert 80+% of the time, then teams would go for the 1st down the majority of the time. If the video game could accurately represent the difficulty of achieving this, then most people would play the game correctly. This just seems like an unnecessary addition to influence playing the game correctly instead of making the game play more realistically.

Well said. Instead of fixing the gameplay issue they put a "good sportsmanship" band-aid on to try to hide the flaw.

[Gossennator]

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Player lock looks interesting..but thats about it.

[jello1717]

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I didn't read all of this thread so I'm sure someone mentioned this already, but I searched for this quoted phrase and it didn't show up.

For those of you who're sick of season showdown, here's a lovely quote from the beginning of the blog.

This week we will focus on one of the three main pillars of Extra Credits that center around gameplay

I wonder what the next 2 blogs will be feature.....

[Lava]

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I hate SS as much as the next guy, but I do have a question.

Can you play online without selecting a school? If you can, how will the game determine their sportsmanship/skill ratings? Or will it simply not show up?

[ChargerHawk]

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But people who go online onto blogs run by developers regarding the game they're making are not the sort of casual fan they seem to be targetting with these blogs.

I get that they have to market the casual stuff to the casual crowd. But don't market casual stuff to the hardcore crowd, and the people waiting around for these blogs are obviously the hardcore crowd.

I couldn't agree more with this. Well put.

[SHO]

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We had this a couple years ago - it was called profile points.

SMFH.

[MSchneider84]

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I'm going to go insane if Season Showdown took time away from putting in Formation Subs.

[Moostache]

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Here's what I don't get about them trying to encourage sportsmanship through Season Showdown. Football teams don't punt the ball on 4th down out of sportsmanship. They punt because there's a low chance of converting and would rather not risk giving the other team good field position. If teams could go for it in real life on 4th down and convert 80+% of the time, then teams would go for the 1st down the majority of the time. If the video game could accurately represent the difficulty of achieving this, then most people would play the game correctly. This just seems like an unnecessary addition to influence playing the game correctly instead of making the game play more realistically.

And, the other sportsmanship areas that I can think of(excessive onside kicks, running up the score, celebrating...any other ones?) won't be as much of a factor as the 4th down punts.

....oh, and it was nice to see the some of the game in the video.

I think that you are wrong here....people would not necessarily start playing the game better or more like reality, they would simply quit more games. This option is NOT going to force people to play differently, it is simply going to report - in more detail than ever before - HOW you choose to play the game to other players.

I have been playing online since Madden NFL 2003 and I can safely say that no matter what the games are like - even if they somehow made the perfect football simulation - the choices of the other player in play selection and online sportsmanship (including quitting before the game ends instead of playing it out or accepting mercy/conceding defeat) is what matters most in online play quality. I can have a lot of fun with any online football game given the right kind of opponent...it does not mean to stop trying to make the game better, but it does help when you can go online and find more like minded players...

High "Skills", Low "Sportsmanship", Low "Upset" #'s?
What do you think that player is going to be? Think they use UF in every game, never punt and run a bunch of crap no-huddle all game long? I am guessing probably and unless I could find no one else to play, I would immediately avoid them...

Medium "Skills", High "Sportsmanship", High "Upset" #'s?
This kind of user profile is what I would be looking for, and I would be willing to bet would give me a much higher chance of finding a sim-style or more like-minded opponent...

Should the game itself be better and more sim? OF COURSE it should!!! But, since a perfect game is impossible and this game engine is far from perfect anyway, giving players more information to find players that are more like them or more like what they want to play against, is a great advance IMO.

[The Clairvoyant]

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I think that both NCAA and Madden needs a real physics engine, canned animations are thing of the past. The graphics looks great but those jerky running animations ruins the game.

[GatorFan1963]

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I didn't read all of this thread so I'm sure someone mentioned this already, but I searched for this quoted phrase and it didn't show up.

For those of you who're sick of season showdown, here's a lovely quote from the beginning of the blog.


I wonder what the next 2 blogs will be feature.....

Wouldn't make too much of this. Basically they are probably going to highlight a couple other ways you can get points. I'm certain that one of those will be Strategy. The other will probably be either Sportsmanship or Underdog.

I have the feeling that they are putting all their hopes and dreams with this Season Showdown crap.