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  • WisconsinSports414
    Banned
    • May 2009
    • 319

    #151
    Re: NCAA Football 10 Blog: Season Showdown: Show Your Skills

    Originally posted by countryboy
    You're right, they don't owe us anything. But that hasn't stopped people from being demanding on these forums. And how are people rewarding them? I'm willing to bet that a vast majority of the people that are buying the game see no major issues with it. They are having fun with a college football game.
    Ah. See, I'm not bashing people who genuinely enjoy the game. I myself enjoy the game overall. I don't think they're terrible by any stretch, and feel that they are close to being truly great. I am referring to people who claim to hate the game and everything that EA stands for, yet still buy it. The folks that will be out on release day to pick apart all of the flaws as they did last year..and the year before that. The folks who would accuse those who actually like the game of "not knowing football" or not being "true football fans".

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    • rhombic21
      Pro
      • Jul 2002
      • 590

      #152
      Re: Season Showdown: Show your skills

      Originally posted by countryboy
      I was just reiterating that gameplay has been at least worked on. How good those improvements are will remain to be seen.
      With all due respect, that's a pretty meaningless statement.

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      • countryboy
        Growing pains
        • Sep 2003
        • 52797

        #153
        Re: Season Showdown: Show your skills

        Originally posted by rhombic21
        With all due respect, that's a pretty meaningless statement.
        no offense taken. But I'm not sure whats so meaningless about it.
        I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

        I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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        • rhombic21
          Pro
          • Jul 2002
          • 590

          #154
          Re: Season Showdown: Show your skills

          Originally posted by countryboy
          no offense taken. But I'm not sure whats so meaningless about it.
          You want us to recognize that gameplay has been worked on. Ok, and then what? Whether they "worked" on gameplay doesn't really matter at all. What matters is whether gameplay is, in fact, improved. We have no evidence of this so far.

          What you're essentially saying is that people should balance their frustrations about features that they KNOW won't be in the game against the POSSIBILITY that gameplay has been improved, which is completely irrational.

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          • countryboy
            Growing pains
            • Sep 2003
            • 52797

            #155
            Re: Season Showdown: Show your skills

            Originally posted by rhombic21
            You want us to recognize that gameplay has been worked on. Ok, and then what? Whether they "worked" on gameplay doesn't really matter at all. What matters is whether gameplay is, in fact, improved. We have no evidence of this so far.

            What you're essentially saying is that people should balance their frustrations about features that they KNOW won't be in the game against the POSSIBILITY that gameplay has been improved, which is completely irrational.
            No I didn't. People were saying that since Season Showdown was in the game, that gameplay got no work on it.

            Never did I say that the gameplay was improved, never did I say that the fact they worked on gameplay means its ok that formation subs or in-game saves were omitted. Never did I say that people should balance their frustrations between two different things.

            All I did was tell people that the dev team has addressed gameplay this year, nothing more, nothing less. I'm not sure how anyone could take it for more than that.


            And you're right, we have no evidence that the gameplay is better. But in all honesty, we really have no evidence that the gameplay is not better.
            I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

            I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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            • TheWatcher
              MVP
              • Oct 2008
              • 3408

              #156
              Re: Season Showdown: Show your skills

              I just think there's been too much time spent on online/online capable features the past couple seasons, when there are still a ton of things to be fixed with the game on the field. The game on the field is still the most important thing and all this online stuff does is divert attention from that fact.

              Even though they have different groups working different parts, a lot of this stuff they've been doing requires a lot of time and resource from different groups. This is not good.

              Season Showdown... It's kind of like putting a new stereo system in a junky car. You might smile while those beats are playing, but you just look crazy bobbing your head riding around with a rusted body and a loud sputtering engine that needs to be replaced.

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              • PantherBeast_OS
                RKO!!
                • Apr 2009
                • 6636

                #157
                Re: Season Showdown: Show your skills

                Originally posted by TheWatcher
                I just think there's been too much time spent on online/online capable features the past couple seasons, when there are still a ton of things to be fixed with the game on the field. The game on the field is still the most important thing and all this online stuff does is divert attention from that fact.

                Even though they have different groups working different parts, a lot of this stuff they've been doing requires a lot of time and resource from different groups. This is not good.

                Season Showdown... It's kind of like putting a new stereo system in a junky car. You might smile while those beats are playing, but you just look crazy bobbing your head riding around with a rusted body and a loud sputtering engine that needs to be replaced.
                Exactly watcher. There is no reason for SS when the gameplay should the one that gets more attention. People want better gameplay and not feature people didn't ask for. SS is the worst idea I think ncaa dev team has ever come up with.Dont get me wrong the dev team did a good job on team build with ian help. They did a good job with other stuff. But adding a feature which no really asked for are requested is quite dumb to do.

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                • sportzbro
                  MVP
                  • May 2008
                  • 3892

                  #158
                  Re: Season Showdown: Show your skills

                  Originally posted by TheWatcher
                  Season Showdown... It's kind of like putting a new stereo system in a junky car. You might smile while those beats are playing, but you just look crazy bobbing your head riding around with a rusted body and a loud sputtering engine that needs to be replaced.
                  Ha, this is great Watcher.

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                  • Boucher
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 1774

                    #159
                    Re: NCAA Football 10 Blog: Season Showdown: Show Your Skills

                    Where are the devs to ease are pain??? Oh well

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                    • MBFranchise
                      We had subs. It was crazy
                      • May 2009
                      • 1656

                      #160
                      Re: Season Showdown: Show your skills

                      Originally posted by Pantherbeast
                      Exactly watcher. There is no reason for SS when the gameplay should the one that gets more attention. People want better gameplay and not feature people didn't ask for. SS is the worst idea I think ncaa dev team has ever come up with.Dont get me wrong the dev team did a good job on team build with ian help. They did a good job with other stuff. But adding a feature which no really asked for are requested is quite dumb to do.
                      The reason for SS is to make money. If teeny-boppers and their moms buy this game because of SS, then EA will prove it was a valuable addition. EA has no real reason to cater to hardcore gamers since they will buy the game regardless. Instead, their focus is on reeling in more sales. Its a business, its about money. Why don't people understand this?
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                      • WisconsinSports414
                        Banned
                        • May 2009
                        • 319

                        #161
                        Re: Season Showdown: Show your skills

                        Originally posted by MBFranchise
                        The reason for SS is to make money. If teeny-boppers and their moms buy this game because of SS, then EA will prove it was a valuable addition. EA has no real reason to cater to hardcore gamers since they will buy the game regardless. Instead, their focus is on reeling in more sales. Its a business, its about money. Why don't people understand this?
                        This is true. I don't get it either, frankly.

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                        • stoncold32
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 3588

                          #162
                          Re: Season Showdown: Show your skills

                          Originally posted by countryboy
                          no offense taken. But I'm not sure whats so meaningless about it.
                          Well, if you recall last year, they also said that multiple thing would be improved in the patches....such as DB zone/man coverage. None of which seemed to change at all after the patch.

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                          • stoncold32
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 3588

                            #163
                            Re: Season Showdown: Show your skills

                            Originally posted by MBFranchise
                            The reason for SS is to make money. If teeny-boppers and their moms buy this game because of SS, then EA will prove it was a valuable addition. EA has no real reason to cater to hardcore gamers since they will buy the game regardless. Instead, their focus is on reeling in more sales. Its a business, its about money. Why don't people understand this?
                            Agreed. It's not just a coincidence that it is called the "Coke Zero" SS. I wouldnt be surprised if Coke told EA they'd pony up much of the games budget if EA would make them more 'visible' in the game.

                            Throw in the Pontiac half-time/post-game placements, and EA wins whether we buy the game in mass, or not.

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                            • countryboy
                              Growing pains
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 52797

                              #164
                              Re: Season Showdown: Show your skills

                              Originally posted by stoncold32
                              Well, if you recall last year, they also said that multiple thing would be improved in the patches....such as DB zone/man coverage. None of which seemed to change at all after the patch.
                              ok
                              I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                              I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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                              • TheWatcher
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 3408

                                #165
                                Re: Season Showdown: Show your skills

                                Originally posted by MBFranchise
                                The reason for SS is to make money. If teeny-boppers and their moms buy this game because of SS, then EA will prove it was a valuable addition. EA has no real reason to cater to hardcore gamers since they will buy the game regardless. Instead, their focus is on reeling in more sales. Its a business, its about money. Why don't people understand this?
                                It sure is all about money, but that's a given like the sun is going to rise every morning... However, I sincerely doubt that teeny-boppers or many others will buy this game because of a feature like Season Showdown, lol. If they cut the feature tomorrow I highly doubt it would have an impact one way or the other. I feel like this is one of those features that just winds up being an eye-roller. At least online dynasty has some value. But this?

                                As I've said in the past, casuals--especially the youngest ones--buy the games primarily because it looks cool (graphics), and then because it's fun to play which they base off of the last game or through a friend. To them, the lack of realism in terms of being able to do unrealistic things is fun, to us it's a gamekiller.

                                The fact that they're spending so much time on this online stuff is perplexing, considering how small their fanbase is compared to Madden and other titles. It's time to make some priority changes. If I'm only pulling down like 700K to 800K sales which is what they've pushed about every year this gen, I don't see the point of spending so much time on online stuff. It's obviously not their bread and butter and not the reason people are buying this game as the sales haven't been leaping since adding any of it.
                                Last edited by TheWatcher; 05-23-2009, 11:58 PM.

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