Madden NFL 10 Ratings: Top 10 by Position (ESPN Videogames)

[Glorious Arc]

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Aaron Rodgers played as many games with a seperated shoulder-so injury speaking its a draw.

Now to the numbers:

Rodgers 28 tds 13 ints 4038 yrds 93.8 rating
BigBen 17 tds 15 ints 3301 yrds 80.1 rating

How come Ben got the ring and Rodgers didnt? Oh yeah, Green Bays defense was a sieve just like New Orleans who also has a great QB without a ring.

As for the Super Bowl who knows how the game wouldve went if Arizona scored that td instead of Pitt at the half, all I do know is that d made the biggest play of the game right there and without it, the Cards may well have been world champions.

You can do the easy work and look at the overall picture of what happened in the 2008 season and say that this QB performed better. But can you take a look at what teams you played and then compare the defenses each team faced and say the same thing? The answer is no you cant.

The Steelers as I already posted have played 8 games against the top rated defenses including both best pass defense and the top ten for least points allowed per game. The steelers had no offensive line and no run game.

The packers on the other hand. Played against 7 of the bottom 10 pass defenses and only played against 3 teams with top ten defenses. They had a decent running game and a better offensive line then the steelers.

Its no wonder why Rogers put up better numbers. None of the teams he played against where all that great at defending the pass.

[Glorious Arc]

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Well we appreciate being called names by a guy with 4 posts.

This whole board is about feedback to the Dev team. So what we say here matters, and the debate is worth having even if it didn't.

+1

Besides what else is there to talk about right now? The game is almost done, so its not like we can change much of the "big" stuff. Rating changes are very easy in comparison.

[shotgun styles]

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+1

Besides what else is there to talk about right now? The game is almost done, so its not like we can change much of the "big" stuff. Rating changes are very easy in comparison.

Yeah, this is the dead part of the off-season. It's all wait and see at this point.

Besides, I love discussing (arguing) with y'all about this stuff.

[NYGmen56]

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westbrook has 99 agility and 99 elusiveness? isnt that a little too much or am i just too much of a homer?

NO JOKE! Seriously he is not Barry Sanders Now?!! Come on..

[Glorious Arc]

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Yeah, this is the dead part of the off-season. It's all wait and see at this point.

Besides, I love discussing (arguing) with y'all about this stuff.

We finally have some "real" attributes to discuss/argue about hence why I joined in on the fun. I really wonder why they didnt list finesse and power move next to the man/zone coverage...Makes almost no sense to show us the top 8 defensive players coverage stats if they are linemen

[shotgun styles]

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We finally have some "real" attributes to discuss/argue about hence why I joined in on the fun. I really wonder why they didnt list finesse and power move next to the man/zone coverage...Makes almost no sense to show us the top 10 defensive players coverage stats if they are linemen

And I will repeat what another poster above said, how the hell is James Harrison NOT a top 10 player? WTF? Defensive player of the year, greatest play in SB history AND won his second ring.

[steelers1]

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Aaron Rodgers played as many games with a seperated shoulder-so injury speaking its a draw.

Now to the numbers:

Rodgers 28 tds 13 ints 4038 yrds 93.8 rating
BigBen 17 tds 15 ints 3301 yrds 80.1 rating

How come Ben got the ring and Rodgers didnt? Oh yeah, Green Bays defense was a sieve just like New Orleans who also has a great QB without a ring.

As for the Super Bowl who knows how the game wouldve went if Arizona scored that td instead of Pitt at the half, all I do know is that d made the biggest play of the game right there and without it, the Cards may well have been world champions.

I believe without Roethlisberger, the Steelers wouldn't have won 8 games last year. I also believe that even if the Steelers have a mediocre defense (won't happen as long as Lebeau is there), with Ben under center they will always have a chance.

Football is a team effort. So yeah, any team that has a bad defense is going to lose. Aaron Rodgers is a good QB, and put up good numbers, but it's a completely different system and he played against easier defenses. (He had 600+ yards and 6 TDs in 2 games against the Lions last year.) I also agree completely that the Packers D was the reason they sucked last year. But I think it was on ESPN they had Rodgers' stats when he had an opportunity to lead a game winning drive and the numbers were terrible.

Aaron Rodgers threw 4 game losing interceptions last year. Roethlisberger led 6 game winning drives in the 4th quarter, including the Super Bowl. I'll take a never say die, win-ugly QB over a losing QB with pretty numbers. End of story.

[SoxFan01605]

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We finally have some "real" attributes to discuss/argue about hence why I joined in on the fun. I really wonder why they didnt list finesse and power move next to the man/zone coverage...Makes almost no sense to show us the top 10 defensive players coverage stats if they are linemen

Of course, one could also argue that it made no sense to group all the defensive players in the first place.

ESPN for ya!

[Glorious Arc]

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And I will repeat what another poster above said, how the hell is James Harrison NOT a top 10 player? WTF? Defensive player of the year, greatest play in SB history AND won his second ring.

I wonder where he is myself. I would laugh if he was number 9 on the list but still you would think he would be rated higher then a 97.

[shotgun styles]

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Of course, one could also argue that it made no sense to group all the defensive players in the first place.

ESPN for ya!

They've been playing too much fantasy football..

[shotgun styles]

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I wonder where he is myself. I would laugh if he was number 9 on the list but still you would think he would be rated higher then a 97.

I think he lost 25 AWR points for refusing to go to the White House

[kjcheezhead]

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The Steelers as I already posted have played 8 games against the top rated defenses including both best pass defense and the top ten for least points allowed per game. The steelers had no offensive line and no run game.

The packers on the other hand. Played against 7 of the bottom 10 pass defenses and only played against 3 teams with top ten defenses. They had a decent running game and a better offensive line then the steelers.

Ill give you the defenses they were facing. I gotta say tho the Rothlesberger had the advantage of playing for the team that was number 1 in passing defense itself and number 2 in rushing. Big Ben is a product a of good team, ala Trent Dilfer- I honestly believe that. Just go the NFL.com and click on passing stats, you'll find him halfway down the board in every stat.

[shotgun styles]

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Ill give you the defenses they were facing. I gotta say tho the Rothlesberger had the advantage of playing for the team that was number 1 in passing defense itself and number 2 in rushing. Big Ben is a product a of good team, ala Trent Dilfer- I honestly believe that. Just go the NFL.com and click on passing stats, you'll find him halfway down the board in every stat.

Fun fact: the 2008 Steelers played the second toughest schedule of any Superbowl winner.

Ask me who played THE toughest...

The 1979 Pittsburgh Steelers.

God I love being a fan of the Black and Gold.

[J Masta J]

Roddy White at 94 is a little outrageous...

[Glorious Arc]

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Ill give you the defenses they were facing. I gotta say tho the Rothlesberger had the advantage of playing for the team that was number 1 in passing defense itself and number 2 in rushing. Big Ben is a product a of good team, ala Trent Dilfer- I honestly believe that. Just go the NFL.com and click on passing stats, you'll find him halfway down the board in every stat.

Close, He was the second most sacked QB and he fumbled the most(Im joking with you but those are serious stats). I think the fact that Ben lead his team to more wins and the way he played are major pluses if you look at the environment he was in. Its also no small fact that Rogers inherited a growing strong young offense.

At this point I can only say that its a wait and see game coming this year. I also lean a bit more to Ben because he is a bit more experienced as a starter.