Madden NFL 10 Ratings: Top 10 by Position (ESPN Videogames)

[Sanchez_Mareno]

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His TEAM was winning Superbowls. His KICKER was winning Superbowls. Tom was along for the ride.

Tom only drove the team down the field to get the kicker into position

[Glorious Arc]

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Man I wish my RB had a 98 carry... oh wait... my team IS the falcons!!!!

Matt Ryan was robbed!!!

Are you serious? If you think Turner deserves his 98 rating and dont have a problem with him being 11 points higher then LT then you are being a homer.

Turner deserves a 94-95 rating and LT deserves the 98-99. Followed by Williams with a 96-98 range. Go back a few pages and read my stats on those three backs. Its absolutely silly how the carry rating was given this year.

[CatMan72]

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How is Brian Westbrook ranked higher than DeAngelo Williams???

[Glorious Arc]

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How is Brian Westbrook ranked higher than DeAngelo Williams???

Westbrook can catch a lot better?

EDIT
They are the same overall lol...So its a matter of who they put in front of the other...Its like saying my 99 is better then your 99.

[TheWatcher]

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See, this is what I was on about earlier.

You subscribe to this myth that being a great system QB with huge stats makes you a great overall player. I disagree. Manning and Brady have time and time again PROVEN themselves to be physically incabable of making plays when the system breaks down. They curl up and take a sack or throw the ball away.

Roethlisberger makes plays when Manning or Brady would be sacked or give up on the play. That counts for something.

There is a game that is played between the hash marks that cannot be measured in statistics.

The whole system QB debate is so dead and buried. I think we have enough history behind us now to realize that no matter what system you place a guy in, HE is going to have to play well in order for it to work. For example, look at how many QB's have run the West Coast offense? But how many of them have been successful? Not many, and the guys that were most successful are sitting in the HOF right now (Montana, Young, Elway). Steve Bono played pretty much his whole career in that offense and I don't think he will be getting any HOF votes, but that's just my wild guess...

Bottom line and fact, the QB makes the system successful not the other way around. Any Coach at any level will tell you that. And Brady has proved unarguably that he can be successful in a controlled passing system or a wide-open system.

Also, in terms of what happens on breakdowns, I'd say historically that's been a Manning issue. I could point to lots of games where once pressure came on a regular basis Manning crumbled, and I can point to games where the same happened to Brady and he didn't crumble, Super Bowl 42 is a perfect example as he'd gotten smashed up all game long yet never threw a pick, had solid numbers, and still was able to get one last 4th quarter comeback drive in... unfortunately for him, Eli put together his own right after.

[roadman]

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I agree with Watcher.

Bah, no love for Rodgers(sixth ranked QB for QB rating) or Jennings ranked 6th in WR receiving yds.

[Da Bears]

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No love for Olsen or Forte.

[jclentzthadon]

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I would suggest you check and compare their stats, before making that comment.

Thats is what is wack- it ain't about 17 games bro. It's about longevity and what have you done. Marshall has been a stud since he has been in the league- TO is one of the GOAT's and white finally broke out after what 3-4 years? TO being an 89 in speed is crazy IMHO and what in the hell would justify him being an 89 in speed in the first place? They really need to work up the ratings on this game because what I see is way to many problems as I mentioned earlier.

Also on the TO front, they had him as a 96 in speed last year after he was a what the previous year? It's too much up and down with vets. TO needs to be a 93 in speed not an 89. If he has a great year then he'll be back up to mid 90's and then it is even more wack...

[R9NALD9]

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And he wasn't throwing for 4000 yards and 50 TDs back then either, now was he?

I remember a game where he had FIVE COMPLETIONS and won the game! Those were great TEAMS that Brady just had to keep out of trouble and on schedule. The kicker won all three AFC Championship games and all three Superbowls.




I'm not saying Brady sucked. Not at all. I'm just saying that he was not asked to do much during those Superbowl years other than manage the game, and didn't start blowing the doors off statistically until Moss arrived.

good points, couldn't agree more

[Glorious Arc]

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I agree with Watcher.

Bah, no love for Rodgers(sixth ranked QB for QB rating) or Jennings ranked 6th in WR receiving yds.

Lets talk about Rogers...

Outside Factors besides how they played...

1. Packers played against 7 games of the bottom 10 pass defenses and only played against 3 games with top ten defenses.
2. He has a great receiving core. Not only can they catch the ball but they make great runs after the catch.
3. Farve put up similar/better numbers before he left. You would think that a young offense would only get better.
4. Overall he flashed greatness

Pros
1. Onto talking about Rogers himself. He has a great throw on the run ability. In fact, almost half of his highlights are him moving around and throwing on the run.
2. He has an average starting NFL QB arm. Meaning he can make all the throws and he has some zip.
3. He is mobile
4. He put up good numbers
5. He has solid deep accuracy

Cons
1. He played extremely weak defenses.
2. During many of the highlight Reels of 08 I saw he was slow to deliver the ball. He lacks great awareness.
3. He played in a west coast system. Known for inflating QB numbers.
4. He was inconsistent. Many times I saw his WRs slow down to make a play on the ball and then others I saw them catch in stride no problem.
5. When he had the chance to win games, he would lose them.

Do I think he is a franchise QB? The judge and jury are still out on that one. I think he should be rated in the 80s overall. He has yet to prove that he is a franchise QB or even a top 8 QB. Do I agree with the top 8 list? Yes and no. If Cutler is an 87 and is consider a franchise QB I really have to wonder where the rest of the league falls.

[R9NALD9]

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These ratings are all around horrible..99 ovrs should only occur with two conditions (guaranteed hall of fame induction AND great previous year)


i was expecting a lot more realism this year with the ratings (i've been saying for years that players are way too overrated and i thought they were on the right track with the greater disparity between player ratings this year), guess i was mistaken, but i'll wait to see how the game plays before i make my last judgement but as it stands i'm very skeptical and this could have an incredible effect on how realistic the gameplay truly is..


97 thp for brady lol..whatever, i urge EA to reconsider a lot of these ratings and to study some more film. i don't have time to sit here and break every player down that i have a problem with (yes there's that many!) unless they plan on hiring me or requesting it from me personally because i don't care what the people who buy this game think and who knows if my comment here will ever get read by the people who make the changes.. but these were about 90% wrong IMO. Thanks for the sneak peek though.

I tend to agree, waaaaay to many 95+ overall ratings

[R9NALD9]

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See, this is what I was on about earlier.

You subscribe to this myth that being a great system QB with huge stats makes you a great overall player. I disagree. Manning and Brady have time and time again PROVEN themselves to be physically incabable of making plays when the system breaks down. They curl up and take a sack or throw the ball away.

Roethlisberger makes plays when Manning or Brady would be sacked or give up on the play. That counts for something.

There is a game that is played between the hash marks that cannot be measured in statistics.

at least someones out here knows what he is talking about. That is EXACTLY what makes Roethlisberger so valuable. When the going gets tough, the tough gets going.

Whenever the Steelers struggle, it is Roethlisberger that inspires them to keep on going. No matter how many knocks he take, he'll get up and continue playing.

I don't like the Steelers, and I hoped the Cardinals would win, but I respect Roethlisberger for the player he is, and for the fact that he is one of the rare breed quarterbacks that show real toughness.

[roadman]

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Lets talk about Rogers...

Outside Factors besides how they played...

1. Packers played against 7 games of the bottom 10 pass defenses and only played against 3 games with top ten defenses.
2. He has a great receiving core. Not only can they catch the ball but they make great runs after the catch.
3. Farve put up similar/better numbers before he left. You would think that a young offense would only get better.
4. Overall he flashed greatness

Pros
1. Onto talking about Rogers himself. He has a great throw on the run ability. In fact, almost half of his highlights are him moving around and throwing on the run.
2. He has an average starting NFL QB arm. Meaning he can make all the throws and he has some zip.
3. He is mobile
4. He put up good numbers
5. He has solid deep accuracy

Cons
1. He played extremely weak defenses.
2. During many of the highlight Reels of 08 I saw he was slow to deliver the ball. He lacks great awareness.
3. He played in a west coast system. Known for inflating QB numbers.
4. He was inconsistent. Many times I saw his WRs slow down to make a play on the ball and then others I saw them catch in stride no problem.
5. When he had the chance to win games, he would lose them.

Do I think he is a franchise QB? The judge and jury are still out on that one. I think he should be rated in the 80s overall. He has yet to prove that he is a franchise QB or even a top 8 QB. Do I agree with the top 8 list? Yes and no. If Cutler is an 87 and is consider a franchise QB I really have to wonder where the rest of the league falls.

At least you agree with me on Jennings.

And I don't disagree with you on Rodgers except for one minor issue. A game or two, his fg kicker let him down in the closing moments. Plus, his defense, missing three starters with season ending injuries, plus special teams played a major factor in Rodgers winning close games. Those two areas you don't see on Sports Center.

I think awareness will come with more playing time. I think Rodgers should be in the 80's as well, probably mid 80's to start.

[Glorious Arc]

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At least you agree with me on Jennings.

And I don't disagree with you on Rodgers except for one minor issue. A game or two, his fg kicker let him down in the closing moments. Plus, his defense, missing three starters with season ending injuries, plus special teams played a major factor in Rodgers winning close games. Those two areas you don't see on Sports Center.

I think awareness will come with more playing time. I think Rodgers should be in the 80's as well, probably mid 80's to start.

I didnt know his kicker messed over the games and his special teams setting him up. I think mid 80s is about right currently.

I dont understand how Jennings is below TO. I am pretty sure Jennings is more athletic and has better hands. Maybe he has worse route running and awareness?

[NovaStar]

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His TEAM was winning Superbowls. His KICKER was winning Superbowls. Tom was along for the ride.

I'll jump in at this point. Every great qb was/is part of a great team. Start at Montana (Rice) and work your way up. You are proving no point. Brady is a great QB, Big Ben is a product of a great defense, but gets the job done when he is called upon, he too is a great qb. Peyton on the other hand is a great regular season qb, when the heat gets turned up his stock seems to go down. Brady is the best in the game (injury not withstanding), period.