Madden NFL 10 Ratings: Top 10 by Position (ESPN Videogames)

[steelers1]

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This is just speculation, but seeing how Matt Cassel did last year, does anyone ever question if Brady could be as effective on another team? For me, Peyton Manning could be plugged into any offense and succeed. He will find a way to succeed. I'm not convinced Brady is the same. For the same reason I believe that Matt Cassel will be a dud in KC.

The same could be said for several ex-Broncos RBs who tried to go elsewhere, after having success in Denver, and turned in subpar performances. Yes, a player must execute, this much is true. But I've seen enough evidence to suggest that some players are a one-system kind of player.

That's pretty much how I feel. Although I think Cassel has a chance to succeed in KC because they run a similar offense (just not as good weapons or oline).

[iBlievN5]

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i cant see how you can rate brady as the best. manning is better, no doubt. judging people on team accomplishments/failures and using them to compare is asinine imo.

[celg35]

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Brady could also be put in any system and win....Cassel might of had a one year wonder....the jury is still out on him....and i believe when brady came in his first year they won a superbowl.

manning showed his decline last year without having a healthy wide reciever crew.... brady has done it with nobody in the past....

thier both great qb's ,but for the win in the final drive i'd go with brady...........

[shotgun styles]

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No, you need to watch the film. How many qb's in the superbowl have led their team to game winning drives? In the five situations that Brady has participated in, he has won 3 and lost 2. The 3 would consist of 3 Superbowl rings of course, and the two would be the final game of an 18-0 season, in the superbowl with appoximately a minute and some change on the clock. The other would be on the road, with inferior receivers against on paper, a vastly superior team. A year inwhich it was a miracle that they even got to the AFC championship game, let alone having an opportunity to win it. The fact that they got that far is a bigger testimony to Brady's greatness, as opposed to your short sighted perception, attempting to spin it as a weakness.


Rings= champion

3rings = greatness

greatness = Brady

Get your math game tight!

Tom Brady "lead his team". By that logic Kevin Faulk should be enshrined in the HOF since he caught most of those passes and won all those Superbowls. Is Kevin Faulk the greatest HB in the NFL? I don't think so.

You (and the NFL) are trying to manufacture greatness out of Brady's proximity to the winning play, even though HE DID NOT MAKE IT. Sorry. Adam is the true great on those SB teams, not Brady's overrated self.

And none of this even MENTIONS the awesome scoring defense and special teams on those Patriot squads. That whole team was awesome. Brady was just in the right place at the right time.

this is a ridiculous debate about tom brady....he is the best QB in football............you have to be an ignorant to see otherwise.

he has all the tools and he has the most important tool....his football iQ.

this argument is just nonsense......he reached his peak in 06-07???????? what, when he broke the touchdown record............name a qb who is better...............guess what you...............are wrong....................

No, I'm agreeing with you. Tom Brady is the best QB in the NFL.

My argument is that the NFL rules are rigged so that talentless hacks like Brady can succeed by hiding their weaknesses in a QB friendly system. If Brady plays before 1978 he's pronounced dead by week 4. As it stands, his best friend is the "throw away" play that allows him to cheat his way to fake greatness.

Brady could also be put in any system and win.....

Really? Brady could run the Option or the Wildcat? Show me film of that!

[cowboyscowboys]

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yea cuz runnin a 4.36 at 6'2 215 (they list him at 210) isn't fast or anything....

Ya he never ran a 4.36 at the combine so it never happened. I mean everybody has run a 4.2, on their own time lol

94 speed is overrated he does deserve the 99 overall though

[celg35]

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Tom Brady "lead his team". By that logic Kevin Faulk should be enshrined in the HOF since he caught most of those passes and won all those Superbowls. Is Kevin Faulk the greatest HB in the NFL? I don't think so.

You (and the NFL) are trying to manufacture greatness out of Brady's proximity to the winning play, even though HE DID NOT MAKE IT. Sorry. Adam is the true great on those SB teams, not Brady's overrated self.

And none of this even MENTIONS the awesome scoring defense and special teams on those Patriot squads. That whole team was awesome. Brady was just in the right place at the right time.



No, I'm agreeing with you. Tom Brady is the best QB in the NFL.

My argument is that the NFL rules are rigged so that talentless hacks like Brady can succeed by hiding their weaknesses in a QB friendly system. If Brady plays before 1978 he's pronounced dead by week 4. As it stands, his best friend is the "throw away" play that allows him to cheat his way to fake greatness.

sorry my bad then....i'm at work i'm only catching some of these topics



my bad

[Broncos86]

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I'm not sure I can agree that Manning is declining. I'm not a fan of using numbers alone, but Manning put up his usual stats and the Colts went 12-4, despite having the 31st rank running game.

[iBlievN5]

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If that is the case then lets talk about Westbrook, He has only been in the top 5 rushing yards like twice (Yes 2007 and 2006) and in them years he had 90 rec and 77 rec. If he doesn't catch balls out of the back field, he doesn't get rushing yard. I am tired of Biased Philly fans wanting him to have ratings like he has had past years. He is not very leathal running the ball and never really was. He is a threat to defenses because of the options that Westy gives the offense in how to use him. Ocassionally he can get some big runs, but that is occasionally. Exactly like Reggie Bush.

Stats: Last Year: 936 rushing yards w/ 54 rec for 402 yards.

I mean the games I have watched of philly (Unfortunately alot since I live in WV) he has had his big run games after he is used in the passing. If a team shuts down his passing aspect then he cant do anything.

dude, are you REALLY mad about that loss by the vikings to the eagles? seriously, EVERY post you make is about taking westbrook down. westbrook hasnt had the attempts most backs have, hence he has less yds. for the 02 and 03 seasons he shared the load, and was at one point part of a three committee backfield. in all his years of starting the year as the number one back he has a career rushing avg of 4.6, he in the injury plagued year he had scored 14 tds, 9 on the ground, you dont get those going to the outside every play. and damn reggie bush, he cant hold westbrooks JOCK. im tired of this myth that brian cant run up the middle, ITS WHERE NEARLY EVERY RUN GOES. the eagles, when they decide to run, are a straight ahead team, we have our stretch plays but as far as running we take it up the middle. last year, he did that well battling injuries, NO FB, washed up tackles, with his best o-lineman out, and with no blocking TE. please, give up on making westbrook average, hes an outstanding back.

[Sanchez_Mareno]

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Brady was just in the right place at the right time.

Your saying any qb could have lead NE to those SBs??

[Broncos86]

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I'd be pretty happy with a RB that averaged over 4 YPC (as Westbrook has).

[steelers1]

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Brady could also be put in any system and win....Cassel might of had a one year wonder....the jury is still out on him....and i believe when brady came in his first year they won a superbowl.

manning showed his decline last year without having a healthy wide reciever crew.... brady has done it with nobody in the past....

thier both great qb's ,but for the win in the final drive i'd go with brady...........

Manning showed his decline? Seriously? That Colts team doesn't win 4 games without Manning last year. They had no running game at all. He was hurt the first half of the season but then put the team on his back and got to the playoffs. That's why he won the MVP. Yeah, they lost in the first round of the playoffs, but it wasn't Manning's fault, he had a great game and never even got the ball in OT.

[iAM-IncReDiBLe-]

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Somebody is going to have to explain to me how Reggie Wayne is better than Calvin Johnson.

Calvin is probably more talented but you also need to take into account that Reggie has been putting up great stats for along time. That is probably why madden has Reggie rated higher.

[Sanchez_Mareno]

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Manning wast declining last year, he was recovering from injury.
This year however without all his coaches and marvin harrison....

[iAM-IncReDiBLe-]

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Those who know me, know I am a big Tom Brady fan... and I honestly think they mixed Manning and Brady's ratings up. Manning should have higher THP and THAD. Tommy should have higher THAS and THAM. Tom should have 92 THP, or 90 after the injury. I thought that in 07 he should have capped out at the 94-96 range, not at 99. He is known for his ability to put the ball where he wants to, and he throws near perfect short and medium passes. He can throw a good deep ball, but Moss is just as much the reason there were so many deep completions.

I am surprised Westbrook is so overrated, Frank gore is slightly underrated [his trucking should be a lot higher and elusive a tad lower. carry just right until he shows he can hold on to the ball.] I am upset that Vernon Davis didn't make the top 10 [concidering Z. Miller did...] and wish there was a better break down defensively. At leat all Line, all LBs, and all secondary.

I agree 100%

[shotgun styles]

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Your saying any qb could have lead NE to those SBs??

Again, I'm not saying that Brady can't play. Or even that he sucks. I'm saying that he's only good because the NFL passing rules are rigged.

Having said that, explain to me how he is any better than Drew Brees. A guy who is amazingly LESS TALENTED than Tom, AND short to boot! But he goes out and throws Marino numbers on a pretty weak team.

I think that given the team and system there are at least 10 other starters, and 20 other backups in the NFL that could do what Brady did if they had the opportunity. Playing QB in the NFL is all about accuracy and timing. All the rest is just media hype.

There are probably several hundred ex-high school QBs who are bagging groceries and driving forklifts that could do what Brady did if you gave them the same team and circumstances to work with.