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Everyone keeps responding with this same exact reply. And I haven't really replied back because I thought the answer was a bit obvious. It doesn't matter that the pre-game show was cut in certain areas. We saw all the relevant parts. Logo introduction, Player introduction, Coin Flip. There may (and probably WERE) nuances that were skipped, but there was enough in the video to adequately gauge the power of the pre-game show. And the clear verdict was the pre-game show competely lacked the proper sound atmosphere. You can't skip that shiz - partially skipped pre-game show or not. It's either there or not.
Both are fixable as I said, which is why I'm waiting for E3.
Like I said before, it has been said that they will show people getting food and taking their seats before the game. That wasn't shown. They also didn't show players coming out. Because of that, and becuase parts of it were skipped, that shows you that there's a lot of stuff that wasn't shown.
Like I understand where you are coming from, but they did cut a lot of stuff from the video just so that it will be announced or seen for the first time in the upcoming weeks....
Is noone concerned that the horrid ball physics have not been changed? To me this is so important. There will be no timing routes in Madden 10. Are there timing routes on Sunday?
I can care less about presentation if the game doesn't play realistically. From the video it plays just like 09. Stop drinking the KooolAid and watch the video. There has not been any changes to the most important part of the game. Gamplay!!!!
I can't see how you can call the pre game show lackluster when IGN clearly skipped through it..
Anyways, Ian has already said that the crowd noise was broken in that build and that it was fixed (the vid was made 2 weeks ago).
This seems to be the recurring theme with this vid. First, Pro-Tak is off in the vid, now the crowd isn't right in the vid. I'm beginning to think the actual real gameplay and A.I. was left out also. Because the players certainly weren't running hard in the vid. So.....
This seems to be the recurring theme with this vid. First, Pro-Tak is off in the vid, now the crowd isn't right in the vid. I'm beginning to think the actual real gameplay and A.I. was left out also. Because the players certainly weren't running hard in the vid. So.....
The debug setting of pro-tak and the fact that the crowd noise was basically broken came straight out of Ian's mouth
I can care less about presentation if the game doesn't play realistically. From the video it plays just like 09. Stop drinking the KooolAid and watch the video. There has not been any changes to the most important part of the game. Gamplay!!!!
You didn't notice the game being slower, improvements in blocking, or anything?
I can care less about presentation if the game doesn't play realistically. From the video it plays just like 09. Stop drinking the KooolAid and watch the video. There has not been any changes to the most important part of the game. Gamplay!!!!
reeeally? if you can't see any difference in the overall speed, blocking, running game etc. then I'm not even going to try convince you.
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The debug setting of pro-tak and the fact that the crowd noise was basically broken came straight out of Ian's mouth
So believe what you want...
So, what's your point? I believe Ian said it. I just believe there's a bunch of other stuff he's not saying is left out also. At least, I hope so! Cause the vid looks pretty.........
Balloon a little deflated right now. Not getting the Fifa09/2k5 feeling. Hoping that Ian was correct about this build being nothing like where they stand now. But will reserve much more critical judgement till post E3....
Agree... Wow just Wow.. I'm some what speechless, and not in a good way..
Let me start off by saying what I thought looked good.. Graphics where great! wow I was impressed by the improvement of the players body proportions. Looks much better. Only grip and it's huge for me, was that everyone had the same sock length!! It just doesn't look right. Ian did say, "What you see on Sundays, you will see in Madden 10" Right?? I see long SOCKS on sundays....? The presentation is looking very good and in the right direction. Some things need tweaking, but by all means much better then any previous madden as far as presentation goes. Well... that was unfortunately the only good things for me...
The bad, well..... It was just that, BAD... Where is all that NEW players animations and movement Ian was talking and showing vids about??? No real momentum or foot planting that I saw?? Where in the hell was WR vs CB gameplay animations?? Where??!! That was one of the main key areas Madden was suppose to improve on this year! I saw no bumps or battles or even touching of WR & CB's?? Wow, that was not good. Where was the the Dline vs Oline gameplay?? No real pockets. LBrulz hit it on the nail about the DE's not forming a real pocket and not engaging quick enough. I mean seriously not all pockets are perfect!! They need to have life and soul when it comes to oline vs Dline battles.. It looked to much like stand still animations but no penetration or rush from the dline! Why didm't at least one of the Dlineman penetrate the oline?? It looked like they where all scripted to do the same exact things?? Like the Dline was stuck in the animations with the oline?? Why don't' WR's run good clean crisp routes?? Why don't CB's run good routes with them?? 2k5 did... 4-5 years ago! Why are the running animations still looking so robotic and choppy?? 2 key areas that where top areas to be fixed this year in Madden 10 and they still are looking the same as 09?? Why? Gameplay should be the main focus and concern to the Madden team.. Nothing else! Build the Foundation first, before adding all the goodies and fluff(Pro-Tac, etc)..
While the Presentation looked good and added much of a football vibe, gameplay seemed boring.. Must bring Life & Soul to this game called Madden.. Must feel like your playing real football.. Keys to success for Madden in the future... As much as I want this game to succeed, I just don't know if EA can ever do it.. I do know one thing, my optimism is falling fast after that showcase of football.. wow...
It is amazing at how many people complain about the video. It is amazing. It looks way better than 09. Anybody that does not agree needs to see an eye dr.
I think the problem with a lot of people is that the game is called madden. If it was the same exact game but called 2k10 I think they would be a lot happier about it.
They can complain all they want. I could care less. I am buying this game for sure.
So, what's your point? I believe Ian said it. I just believe there's a bunch of other stuff he's not saying is left out also. At least, I hope so! Cause the vid looks pretty.........
All I'm saying is to believe what you want basically.
I mean even with all of that noted, the game still looks a lot better than 09. Can't see how anyone could say it doesn't...
Only grip and it's huge for me, was that everyone had the same sock length!! It just doesn't look right. Ian did say, "What you see on Sundays, you will see in Madden 10" Right??
You are ridiculous. Your feel let down by the game because of socks?
We knew for a long time that they had very little chance of making this years game.
You are probably one of those people that been whining about colored cleats for the past several years. Keep whining, sock length will get in the game eventually just like that cleats did.
If that is going to keep you from buying madden 10 then you truely have issues.
It is amazing at how many people complain about the video. It is amazing. It looks way better than 09. Anybody that does not agree needs to see an eye dr.
I think the problem with a lot of people is that the game is called madden. If it was the same exact game but called 2k10 I think they would be a lot happier about it.
They can complain all they want. I could care less. I am buying this game for sure.
Amen brother! I couldn't agree more! No wonder this is the first year, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's the last, that they work together with the community.
No matter what game, how good the game is, people will bash it simply because it's EA. If people can't see any improvement in this video, well then I've lost all my faith in people altogether.
I'm a big NFL2k5 fan, and even I can see that the gameplay, presentation etc. are leaps and bounds better than anything EA has put out before.
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