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  • J Masta J
    Pro
    • May 2009
    • 597

    #1

    Backtrack Needs To Go

    EA Backtrack, the feature that occurs in-game when Collinsworth breaks down a play, why it went wrong, and how it could've been better executed, was a nifty idea. Essentially, it allowed Madden to be a teaching tool for Cris Collinsworth as he shared his insight.

    However, it's implementation is simply not conducive to a true "SIM" style of game. This was made apparent to me as I watched the footage from the Eagles v. Cowboys gameplay vid. Although, the video was already extremely choppy and lacked fluidity (if you notice, they put together multiple plays from different games). However, Backtrack took the cake for being the most intrusive and distracting, a veritable NFL sim style game killer.

    There are many problems with feature. Most importantly, it is incredibly slow-moving, time consuming, and deviates greatly from the "flow" of the game. Collinsworth spends upwards of 20 seconds looking at what happened on the play, and then suggesting how you could've done better. This intrusion seems incredibly artificial and forced. From my own experience it is an entirely unwanted interruption, which completely ruins the pace of the game. Although it's similar in some ways to a real NFL game where a commentator will break down in depth what just happened, EA's version of it is simply a half minute, poorly implemented, game dulling moment, which although novel, gets old and repetitive too quickly.

    Further more, half the time the advice Collinsworth gives is simply not correct. We saw it in the recent gameplay footage. He suggests throwing to a player, whom he claims is open, but in reality is locked down in blanket coverage. These types of moments simply make the feature look comical. Sadly, they happen all too often. Couple the deficiencies of the advice given with the fact that the feature itself cripples the flow of the game, and I believe it needs to be done away with.

    My idea for a fix? More "real-life" style replays and more stream-lined commentary. Something like, "Well, with that type of pressure coming, ________ (insert name here, something they need to do more of) needed to get rid of the ball quicker. He didn't, and as a result he took a nasty hit and coughed the ball up." For replays, maybe show an "iso-cam" shot of the blitzer beating his man and hitting McNaab, and then the end of the hit from a different angle, or something along these lines. You know, something that they would actually do on a Sunday broadcast.

    Oh yah, one thing...Hammond sucks...I hope Michaels is back in '11....he was great. Or maybe Joe Buck and Aikman, they're good too.
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  • I Peench
    Pro
    • May 2008
    • 762

    #2
    Re: Backtrack Needs To Go

    I agree with most of what you said. Don't you think that title is a bit misleading though? I feel like you're saying backtrack has a ton of potential that it isn't living up to right now.

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    • Captain Obvious
      Rookie
      • Jul 2005
      • 321

      #3
      Re: Backtrack Needs To Go

      i agree, i dont need lolinsworth to tell me where i shoulda gone with the ball after a pick. i look at the ******* replay and see what i did wrong. i dont want a second chance

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      • coogrfan
        In Fritz We Trust
        • Jul 2002
        • 15646

        #4
        Re: Backtrack Needs To Go

        or.............you can simply go into the settings and turn it off.

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        • Bgamer90
          MVP
          • Jul 2008
          • 1919

          #5
          Re: Backtrack Needs To Go

          Originally posted by coogrfan
          or.............you can simply go into the settings and turn it off.
          Exactly.
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          • Cusefan
            Earlwolfx on XBL
            • Oct 2003
            • 9820

            #6
            Re: Backtrack Needs To Go

            Sorry you guys hate it. Personally I think it is pretty cool and am happy to see it will be used more in Madden 10.

            If you do not like it, turn it off or just skip through it...
            My dog's butt smells like cookies

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            • Fresh Prince
              Rookie
              • Apr 2009
              • 233

              #7
              Re: Backtrack Needs To Go

              Collinsworth in general needs to go.

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              • MRxAmazing
                Banned
                • Aug 2008
                • 1170

                #8
                Re: Backtrack Needs To Go

                Not to mention, the guy he highlighted was actually about to be open. A touch pass towards the endzone would've easily beaten the coverage, so I guess you don't have a keen eye.

                For those with not such a good eye, the TE was wide open on the out pattern (as always).

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                • J Masta J
                  Pro
                  • May 2009
                  • 597

                  #9
                  Re: Backtrack Needs To Go

                  Can you turn off Back-Track? I know you can turn off the option to re-do the play.

                  And I feel like they could replace Back-Track with a feature that does the same thing but a) isn't so intrusive and slow moving and b) better utilizes the amazing graphics and possibilities for life-like replays and commentary.


                  Originally posted by Cusefan
                  Sorry you guys hate it. Personally I think it is pretty cool and am happy to see it will be used more in Madden 10.

                  If you do not like it, turn it off or just skip through it...
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                  • J Masta J
                    Pro
                    • May 2009
                    • 597

                    #10
                    Re: Backtrack Needs To Go

                    Originally posted by MRxAmazing
                    Not to mention, the guy he highlighted was actually about to be open. A touch pass towards the endzone would've easily beaten the coverage, so I guess you don't have a keen eye.

                    For those with not such a good eye, the TE was wide open on the out pattern (as always).
                    If the user controlled corner had gotten McNaab, the player wouldn't have been open.

                    Furthermore, why didn't Collinsworth highlight the TE? The feautre is wrong too often.
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                    • dougdeuce
                      Pro
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 802

                      #11
                      Re: Backtrack Needs To Go

                      I agree with the op, although I think the fix it needs is a speedier implementation. if this was a 15 second look at the play it would be so much more tolerable, and probably cool. I wish you could watch it without the option of rewind though. I play on "extreme" (i think is the mode) where you don't have any rewinds during a game and it removes backtrack altogether... ? I don' understand. You can only have a breakdown of plays if you plan to replay them? silly.

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                      • J Masta J
                        Pro
                        • May 2009
                        • 597

                        #12
                        Re: Backtrack Needs To Go

                        Originally posted by I Peench
                        I agree with most of what you said. Don't you think that title is a bit misleading though? I feel like you're saying backtrack has a ton of potential that it isn't living up to right now.
                        I say the idea in general (showing a replay, what went wrong, how you could've avoided it) is great and needs to be in, but the whole format of back-track is horrendous. Takes almost half a minute and isn't even that helpful.
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                        • MRxAmazing
                          Banned
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 1170

                          #13
                          Re: Backtrack Needs To Go

                          Originally posted by J Masta J
                          If the user controlled corner had gotten McNaab, the player wouldn't have been open.

                          Furthermore, why didn't Collinsworth highlight the TE? The feautre is wrong too often.
                          But he didn't get McNabb. My hunch is that - Since he had more time, the game decided the deeper receiver could've been the better target, and possibly a TD. Had he been sacked by the first CB, it may have highlighted the TE instead.

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                          • LingeringRegime
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 17089

                            #14
                            Re: Backtrack Needs To Go

                            Yes, please get rid of it. Useless feature. If people are new to Madden let them learn the Old-Fashioned way - practice.

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                            • Bgamer90
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 1919

                              #15
                              Re: Backtrack Needs To Go

                              Originally posted by J Masta J
                              Can you turn off Back-Track? I know you can turn off the option to re-do the play.
                              Yeah there will be an option this year to turn backtrack completley off.
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